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[Disarray82]

In response to post #108951943. #108974723, #109074408, #109074588, #109127058, #109127083, #109148078 are all replies on the same post.

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JonRobins wrote: So when it transferred over to Steam (Creation Kit), I downloaded it on Steam and now it screwed up my F4SE. I can't launch the game from F4SE anymore. It automatically reverts to the original Fallout4 Launcher. Any work around to this? Or does F4SE have to update? I've tried setting it to only launch from F4SE but didn't work. anyone else having this problem?

Pickysaurus wrote: Considering the CK has no direct impact on the game or the script extender this seems like a coincidence more than anything. 

JonRobins wrote: but the game is installed through steam. so install the CK in Steam or no?

JonRobins wrote: so if i don't install it through steam, then how?

HazakTheMad wrote: The CK has nothing to do with that.

HazakTheMad wrote: How exactly are you running the script extender, through a desktop shortcut/Vortex dashboard/MO2 launch option?

JonRobins wrote: Desktop shortcut. When i click on it, the original launcher overwrites it

Did you try reinstalling the f4se launcher?

[HazakTheMad]

In response to post #108951943. #108974723, #109074408, #109074588, #109127058, #109127083, #109148078, #109152023 are all replies on the same post.

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JonRobins wrote: So when it transferred over to Steam (Creation Kit), I downloaded it on Steam and now it screwed up my F4SE. I can't launch the game from F4SE anymore. It automatically reverts to the original Fallout4 Launcher. Any work around to this? Or does F4SE have to update? I've tried setting it to only launch from F4SE but didn't work. anyone else having this problem?

Pickysaurus wrote: Considering the CK has no direct impact on the game or the script extender this seems like a coincidence more than anything. 

JonRobins wrote: but the game is installed through steam. so install the CK in Steam or no?

JonRobins wrote: so if i don't install it through steam, then how?

HazakTheMad wrote: The CK has nothing to do with that.

HazakTheMad wrote: How exactly are you running the script extender, through a desktop shortcut/Vortex dashboard/MO2 launch option?

JonRobins wrote: Desktop shortcut. When i click on it, the original launcher overwrites it

Disarray82 wrote: Did you try reinstalling the f4se launcher?

Are you sure you didn't make a shortcut to the default launcher on accident?

[JonRobins]

In response to post #108951943. #108974723, #109074408, #109074588, #109127058, #109127083, #109148078, #109152023, #109152108 are all replies on the same post.

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JonRobins wrote: almost fixed, :)

Pickysaurus wrote: Considering the CK has no direct impact on the game or the script extender this seems like a coincidence more than anything. 

JonRobins wrote: almost fixed, thanks :)

JonRobins wrote: :)

HazakTheMad wrote: The CK has nothing to do with that.

HazakTheMad wrote: How exactly are you running the script extender, through a desktop shortcut/Vortex dashboard/MO2 launch option?

JonRobins wrote: almost fixed. :)

Disarray82 wrote: Did you try reinstalling the f4se launcher?

HazakTheMad wrote: Are you sure you didn't make a shortcut to the default launcher on accident?

so i got the CK fixed but now when i open it, only the render window shows up. The cell view window or other windows don't show up at all. They are all ticked in the view tab too. I haven't touched any settings either. This all happened by itself

Edited by JonRobins, 11 May 2022 - 05:54 PM.

[JonRobins]

In response to post #108951943. #108974723, #109074408, #109074588, #109127058, #109127083, #109148078, #109152023, #109152108, #109156738, #109200753 are all replies on the same post.

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JonRobins wrote:  :)

Pickysaurus wrote: Considering the CK has no direct impact on the game or the script extender this seems like a coincidence more than anything. 

JonRobins wrote:
 :)

JonRobins wrote: :)

HazakTheMad wrote: The CK has nothing to do with that.

HazakTheMad wrote: How exactly are you running the script extender, through a desktop shortcut/Vortex dashboard/MO2 launch option?

JonRobins wrote:  :)

Disarray82 wrote: Did you try reinstalling the f4se launcher?

HazakTheMad wrote: Are you sure you didn't make a shortcut to the default launcher on accident?

JonRobins wrote: so i got the CK fixed but now when i open it, only the render window shows up. The cell view window or other windows don't show up at all. They are all ticked in the view tab too. I haven't touched any settings either. This all happened by itself

JonRobins wrote: Yes, that worked but now when i open the creation kit, the only window that opens besides the interface is the render window. all of the windows are ticked in the view tab. is there any other way to get them to pop back up?

:|

Edited by JonRobins, 12 May 2022 - 01:29 AM.

[JonRobins]

In response to post #108951943. #108974723, #109074408, #109074588, #109127058, #109127083, #109148078, #109152023, #109152108, #109156738, #109200578 are all replies on the same post.

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JonRobins wrote:  :)

Pickysaurus wrote: Considering the CK has no direct impact on the game or the script extender this seems like a coincidence more than anything. 

JonRobins wrote:
 :)

JonRobins wrote: :)

HazakTheMad wrote: The CK has nothing to do with that.

HazakTheMad wrote: How exactly are you running the script extender, through a desktop shortcut/Vortex dashboard/MO2 launch option?

JonRobins wrote:  :)

Disarray82 wrote: Did you try reinstalling the f4se launcher?

HazakTheMad wrote: Are you sure you didn't make a shortcut to the default launcher on accident?

JonRobins wrote: so i got the CK fixed but now when i open it, only the render window shows up. The cell view window or other windows don't show up at all. They are all ticked in the view tab too. I haven't touched any settings either. This all happened by itself

JonRobins wrote: so i figured out the problem, it was installing on a different drive. only problem i have is when opening CK, only the render window is showing, the cell view, warnings, etc. don't show up and they are all ticked in the view tab.

Yes, that worked but now when i open the creation kit, the only window that opens besides the interface is the render window. all of the windows are ticked in the view tab. is there any other way to get them to pop back up?

[perchik71]

In response to post #108620453. #108631003, #108631768, #108659628, #108662803, #108664838, #108684093, #108701093, #108775998 are all replies on the same post.

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macrocosm144 wrote: So it only works with AE then, thanks for the warning, I will not be installing that version anytime soon, the SE version along with Nukem's tweaks is too good.

I will only add one hopeful request, whomever jumps in to update Nukems tweaks for AE CK, PLEASE take a look at the Fallout4 similar mod, the ck updates mod, it has a darkmode style, and its so wonderful and gentle on the eyes. I bet you could take the style code and move it over with minimal issues being they're so close, and the differences between fo4 SSE CK are not in the underlying GUI style code.

Pickysaurus wrote: This whole AE vs SE thing is such a misnomer. The CK for both is exactly the same. You are literally talking about v1.5 and v1.6 of Skyrim Special Edition. I really wish the "AE" thing would fall out of use because it's just breeding misunderstanding and misinformation.

KYLE215PS3 wrote: Pickysaurus agreed

a1racer wrote: the real kicker is you can run the 1.6 without all the creation club stuff so basically, it's just an update to a 10-year-old file and people have freaked over it.  

Oracus0 wrote: Not really... It is baffling to me how Bethesda can "update" a file trivially, acknowledging that this update will break the community fix by Nukem, which is essential to the development of projects like Skyblivion, Skywind and Beyond Skyrim, and yet not incorporate the essential fixes Nukem made in their update.  But, yeah, I'm sure that zero-weight arrow thing will come in handy some time...

ff7legend wrote: The 1.6 "update" was unleashed at the behest of Micro$oft just so they could make bank off their blatant attempt at monopolizing the gaming industry under their corporate umbrella.  Micro$oft is the whole reason why AE was even unleashed & they insisted upon it utilizing Visual Studio C++ 2019 just so it would work on the Xbox One/Xbox Series X.  The AE "update" broke .NET Script Framework & any mods that depend on it to work.  meh321 has made it clear there will be no update to make it work with AE.  I will not go without Custom Skills Framework since it's required in order for mods like Custom Skills - Hand to Hand/Custom Skills - VIGILANT/Custom Skills - Unarmored Defense to work.  SE & AE are in essence two entirely different games due to all the radical changes Bethesda/Micro$oft made to the game in the wake of the paywalled AE "update" Pickysaurus - hence why many authors have offered SE/AE-compatible versions of their SKSE64-dependent mods/plugins...  I have zero plans to ever allow AE to be deployed onto my system & have taken steps to ensure any update attempt to my SSE runtime 1.5.97 by Steam will fail.

FORGEDINPAINx wrote: that update killed my whole game took me months to get all those mods and load order right with mo2 than the update destroyed it havent been back since

HazakTheMad wrote: @Oracus0
Are memory leaks a joke to ya?
Do people really prefer that companies never update their **** just so there will less work to maintain mods?

Oracus0 wrote: @Hazak - CK Fixes is not just a "mod."  BTW, I'm author of Skygerfall, and quest lead for Skyblivion and BS: Iliac Bay, and we can't develop without it.  CK Fixes does include memory leak fixes and much, much more.  Bethesda simply didn't fix enough of what's wrong with their product, and won't even bother to take a cue from the community.  We can't just automatically expect that Nukem or other tool authors will just dump more of their time in for free to fix what Bethesda broke/didn't fix properly.  And without mod support, Skyrim wouldn't be half of the success it has become.

?I will only add one hopeful request, whomever jumps in to update Nukems tweaks for AE CK, PLEASE take a look at the Fallout4 similar mod, the ck updates mod, it has a darkmode style, and its so wonderful and gentle on the eyes. I bet you could take the style code and move it over with minimal issues being they're so close, and the differences between fo4 SSE CK are not in the underlying GUI style code.

Nukeem and I use the same system for replacing the rendering mechanism, but there is a difference in my project with a more complex structure, moreover, it is identified from the color scheme, for this reason you can apply a light theme and any other.

First of all, should be the whole UITheme, which says how to draw and what to draw, it depends on my WUI classes.

So need to refine a lot DarkMode.cpp in the Nukeem project. And without the above modules, it will take another six months of development, for one programmer.

Edited by perchik71, 14 May 2022 - 08:36 PM.

[hakchy]

In response to post #108620428. #108622218, #108677703 are all replies on the same post.

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hakchy wrote: question: i never install this before, so curious, how much importand this is needed for a modded game?

a1racer wrote: It’s not creation kit is for creating mod or game files and editing stuff. If you have no plans of doing any of that it won’t do anything for you. 

zMaZT3Rz wrote: You don't need it if you're not planning creating mods. All you need is Vortex if you just want to install already made mods.

oh i see, thx you so much for helping me

[ThePonyLover92]

In response to post #108663898. #108736998, #108754138, #108891573, #108933053, #108938203 are all replies on the same post.

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yelnats2355 wrote: I just installed the new steam creation kit today (04/27/2022).  When i try to run the CK through MO2 get Load error V:0000065432.  I've uninstalled and reinstalled it 3 times, each time starting it with Steam or the CK exe before trying to run it with MO2 .  I have verified the integrity of my files with steam..  I'm pretty sure it's installed correctly.  Is anyone else having this problem?  Is there a fix?

04/29/2022- I'm runing Skyrim AE.  I uninstalled the creation kit, then uninstalled and reinstalled Steam.  Then reinstalled the CK.  Now I can open the CK with creationkit.exe.  I can't open it with the Steam CK launcher or MO2.  Steam won't help because the CK is Bethesda software.  Bethesda won't help because they succesfully dumped the shitty AE CK on Steam.  Still getting the Load error V:0000065432 when I try to open the CK with MO2.  The error message popup also says it's a Steam error.  The AE creation kit is about as useful as a football bat.

LegendaryLycanthrope wrote: I had that same problem with trying to run it through Vortex, and I fixed it by going into its edit options and adding an environmental variable with a key of SteamAppID and a value of 1946180.

I assume there's probably a similar field in MO2's edit options for external tools, but as I never actually used it, I can't tell you where.

EStrock wrote: Thanks for the tip Legend! I got it to work in MO2 with the same value. For MO2 users I seem to have it working this way:
Click on your gears icon in MO2, set up the creation kit tool. There is a line below arguments that says "Overwrite Steam AppID". Tick the box and type in the 1946180 value listed below. This worked for me

yelnats2355 wrote: The MO2 fix worked for me.  Thanks to all you smart people.  Dummies like me are screwed without you.

yelnats2355 wrote: I'm just curious, but how did you find  the 1946180 value?  I wondered if my problem had to do with the steam ID, but I had no idea where to find the number.

Pickysaurus wrote: It's the Steam App ID for the Creation Kit. You can see it by hovering over the respective links in the article. 

So, I just downloaded it and had the same issue. Entered in the value and it still isn't working, any ideas?

[hawksbill]

In response to post #108663898. #108736998, #108754138, #108891573, #108933053, #108938203, #109714438 are all replies on the same post.

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yelnats2355 wrote: I just installed the new steam creation kit today (04/27/2022).  When i try to run the CK through MO2 get Load error V:0000065432.  I've uninstalled and reinstalled it 3 times, each time starting it with Steam or the CK exe before trying to run it with MO2 .  I have verified the integrity of my files with steam..  I'm pretty sure it's installed correctly.  Is anyone else having this problem?  Is there a fix?

04/29/2022- I'm runing Skyrim AE.  I uninstalled the creation kit, then uninstalled and reinstalled Steam.  Then reinstalled the CK.  Now I can open the CK with creationkit.exe.  I can't open it with the Steam CK launcher or MO2.  Steam won't help because the CK is Bethesda software.  Bethesda won't help because they succesfully dumped the shitty AE CK on Steam.  Still getting the Load error V:0000065432 when I try to open the CK with MO2.  The error message popup also says it's a Steam error.  The AE creation kit is about as useful as a football bat.

LegendaryLycanthrope wrote: I had that same problem with trying to run it through Vortex, and I fixed it by going into its edit options and adding an environmental variable with a key of SteamAppID and a value of 1946180.

I assume there's probably a similar field in MO2's edit options for external tools, but as I never actually used it, I can't tell you where.

EStrock wrote: Thanks for the tip Legend! I got it to work in MO2 with the same value. For MO2 users I seem to have it working this way:
Click on your gears icon in MO2, set up the creation kit tool. There is a line below arguments that says "Overwrite Steam AppID". Tick the box and type in the 1946180 value listed below. This worked for me

yelnats2355 wrote: The MO2 fix worked for me.  Thanks to all you smart people.  Dummies like me are screwed without you.

yelnats2355 wrote: I'm just curious, but how did you find  the 1946180 value?  I wondered if my problem had to do with the steam ID, but I had no idea where to find the number.

Pickysaurus wrote: It's the Steam App ID for the Creation Kit. You can see it by hovering over the respective links in the article. 

ThePonyLover92 wrote: So, I just downloaded it and had the same issue. Entered in the value and it still isn't working, any ideas?

This worked. Entered 1946180 as an override in MO2. Thank you. The creation kit seems more stable now as well.

Edited by hawksbill, 29 May 2022 - 03:21 AM.

[Magolor7]

I keep getting the "Scene editing will not be available as the FlowChartX DLL failed to register successfully" and I'm not sure how to fix it. Both the FlowCharX DLL and the Creation Kit Application that I downloaded from Steam are together in the same folder. That's how the Creation Kit Application downloaded from Steam; I didn't manually move the files so they are in the same driver.  I've tried running as administrator and the same problem occurs. If anyone can help me out, it would be much appreciated? Thank you.