CRASH FREE Skyrim

[baloo42]

 

 

i came up with this simple method to test my mod-heavy skyrim [230 mods at current]

 

1st - start a fresh new game

2nd - fast travel to Whiterun

3rd - steal your favorite horse (i think there is only one :tongue:)

4th - sprint to Rorikstead

 

ps. be sure to check post no.7 for more useful software apps that will aid your Skyrim setup

 

Note: i make one save game after reaching the Whiterun stables, with as little mods active as possible, this i use as a base template (just to be sure that it's script-free)

Then i can make an additional save with my MCM setup, ie. activating mods, like Frostfall and Hunterborn, and setting up spawn numbers, like Skyrim More Spawns,

i then use this save game to load all my future mod tests, that way i end up saving a lot of time during testing

 

i also use Mod Organizer to setup specific base compilations [profiles]

- one for animation tests

- one for creature tests

- and then the Uber-one for the full setup (best to build this one up in increments, so you can always roll-back when things go hay-wire)

and when things start getting really tough, just add 3 mods at a time, that way the elimination process becomes a lot easier on you

 

i always keep an open Notepad handy to record every step i take, this helps me track back, to see where things went wrong, or simply in helping me make the next decision

When you have a setup that works, remember to make a backup of your profile, it's easy to make a mess of things (and don't forget to give yourself a smack on the back :thumbsup:)

 

The good news is if you make it all the way to Rorikstead (about 2-3 minutes on a horse), chances are that you have a stable Skyrim, ready to play for hours on end!

( That is unless you are using quest or world-space mods which edit specific areas of Skyrim, in which case this method won't cover that. In general, my mods are focused on: encounters, weapons, gameplay, immersion, audio and visuals. You can take a look at my full list in my next post with a pic attached )

 

Hope that this little tip helps all you fellow Skyrimers

Happy Dungeon Hacking :wink:

 

[ i think this was a screenshot i took from the previous Kountervibe ENB, the new one looks even better still ]

Edited October 17, 2013 by baloo42

[thomriis]

230 mods ??? youre crazy

 

ill bet 1 months salary that the longer you get in game youll get a bucketfull of dirty edits and then trouble starts.

 

ill consider my game stable with 120 mods and 4 ctd a week

 

your suggestion takes less than a hour to complete, what do you think your game would look like when cornered 1200 hours of play like me

 

Tell me youre using boss and tes5edit youll need them :smile:

[baloo42]

hahah, yeah, it might break, but if it does, i will drop a few of my visual or audio mods,

or maybe just lower my spawn counts with Skyrim More Spawns [fantastic mod btw]

this way i will not leave any unwanted scripts in my game files

Warning! BOSS will break the encounter compilation, that is, all the spawn instances,

this encounter compilation took many weeks to order correctly,

trust me on this one :thumbsup:

[this was a tip i still picked up from the author of ENB Kountervibe]

i do however use BOSS as a starting guideline, and follow all its listed suggestions, especially as far as conflicts go

TES5Edit i only used for the main Skyrim files, the other mods did not warrant the use, according to BOSS

Another tip which i picked up somewhere .... always use high-quality mods if you can :wink:

(here is a peek at my encounter list i'm using at the moment)

HigherLevelEnemies.esp

ImmersiveCells.esp

SkyrimMoreSpawns.esp

Extra Encounters.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

WiS IV.esp

DFB - Random Encounters.esp

Forsworn Children.esp

Named bosses in skyrim I v1.1.esp

HammerfellBanditsV2.0.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

Locational Damage.esp

ERSO 01 - VRR with Running Hardcore.esp

ERSO 02 - EFMS very bigger giant mammoths.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

ERSO 03 - Slighty Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp

ERSO 09 - RUS-Npcs overhaul USKP compatible.esp

ERSO 09.2 - Radiance.esp

ERSO 10.05 - Immersive Patrols.esp

ERSO 10.06 - Immersive Werewolves.esp

ERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp

OBIS.esp

Bandit Patrols.esp

OBIS_IncreasedSpawns.esp

OBIS-IW Patch.esp

OBIS-USKP Patch.esp

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp

ImmediateDragons.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

rabbit rage v3.esp

Skeleton Resurrection.esp

Killable Children.esp

Edited October 16, 2013 by baloo42

[baloo42]

here is a peek at my full list

As you can see, i don't have any DragonBorn, Dawnguard, or Hearthfire patches for any of my mods (except maybe two)

This way i can use more and more mods, as the game uses less resources (took me a long time to decide on that)

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

SPIKE.esm

RnS_Source.esm

AP Skyrim.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

Overlord Tower.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

enb_reference.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

Customizable Camera.esp

SkyRealism - Simple Save System - OOC - 5 min.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

GloriousGrass.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

ExpandedSnowSystems.esp

MoreRainWindy66percentLessView.esp

MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp

getSnowy.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Additional Player Voices for Skyrim.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

Reverb.esp

Sound.esp

Reverb_Cells.esp

Reverb_SoundsOfSkyrim-TheDungeons.esp

Reverb_SoundsOfSkyrim-TheWilds.esp

Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

00EButterfliegenENGLISH-NO_AREA_EDITING.esp

FAMP2.esp

CannibalsCuisine.esp

vImmersiveBeds.esp

dovahkiinrelax.esp

Sit Anywhere.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Compass Marker Range 4000-12000.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Insanity's Shields.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp

Throwing Knives.esp

LB_EnemiesEssplode!.esp

TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Default.esp

L0S and TaVE patch.esp

LoS and RE patch.esp

Unique Places.esp

theShrines.esp

CLWhiterun.esp

DawnofWindhelm.esp

Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

Immersive Dawnstar.esp

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp

Immersive Falkreath.esp

Immersive Ivarstead.esp

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp

Immersive Morthal.esp

Immersive Rorikstead.esp

Immersive Shors stone.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Camps.esp

CAMPS2.esp

Myownsolitudeimprovements.esp

Main Refugee Camp Whiterun.esp

Dragonborn Camp.esp

ATC_RiverwoodTower.esp

Shadir.esp

treehouse.esp

PhWaterfallRidge.esp

masser Size x2.5.esp

secunda Size x1.5.esp

Skyrim bigger trees.esp

Better Forests and Environments.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

whiterunexenhanced.esp

Weighted Items.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Animated Enchantments.esp

FireAndIceOverhaul.esp

DartTrap harder.esp

FSS-No pause between lines.esp

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

HardCore Fus Roh Dah.esp

Lyn_RealArrows_FasterArrows.esp

Lyn_RealArrows_NoArrowTrails.esp

Lyn_RealArrows_NoArrowHitStereoEffect.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

Realistic poison.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

BLEED.esp

BloodyFacials.esp

Speed Revised.esp

Uncle Sheo.esp

VariousGuardReplacer.esp

SkyRealism - Feast and Famine.esp

SkyRealism - Feast and Famine - Hearthfires.esp

Skyrim unleashed_items.esp

Skyrim unleashed_npc.esp

Skyrim unleashed_crafting.esp

Skyrim unleashed_enchantments.esp

Skyrim unleashed_leveling.esp

lasyan3 - SU Compatibility Patch for Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

lasyan3 - SU Compatibility Patch for Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Amazons.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

HigherLevelEnemies.esp

UDO.esp

VariedDungeonsofSkyrim.esp

ImmersiveCells.esp

SkyrimMoreSpawns.esp

Extra Encounters.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

WiS IV.esp

DFB - Random Encounters.esp

Forsworn Children.esp

Named bosses in skyrim I v1.1.esp

HammerfellBanditsV2.0.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

Locational Damage.esp

ERSO 01 - VRR with Running Hardcore.esp

ERSO 02 - EFMS very bigger giant mammoths.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

ERSO 03 - Slighty Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp

ERSO 09 - RUS-Npcs overhaul USKP compatible.esp

ERSO 09.2 - Radiance.esp

ERSO 10.05 - Immersive Patrols.esp

ERSO 10.06 - Immersive Werewolves.esp

ERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp

OBIS.esp

Bandit Patrols.esp

OBIS_IncreasedSpawns.esp

OBIS-IW Patch.esp

OBIS-USKP Patch.esp

ERSO 13 - MD - A Better Level Progression.esp

ERSO 13.02 - Lower Skill Gain -20percent.esp

ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 15 days.esp

ERSO 15 - Timescale 10.esp

ERSO 16 - Realistic Crime Alert Distances - MEDIUM.esp

ERSO 17 - Training cost 2.5x.esp

ERSO 26 - Realistic Fall Damages.esp

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp

ImmediateDragons.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

Amanda.esp

Lyla.esp

Michelle.esp

Misha.esp

rabbit rage v3.esp

Skeleton Resurrection.esp

Killable Children.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

ASX_Spells.esp

RealisticRoomRental.esp

moredragonloot.esp

Usefulremains.esp

MaybeHeartsAndFlesh.esp

Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp

enchantedclothing.esp

WVExpansion.esp

SA Item Overhual.esp

LC_immersiveLoot.esp

Unleveled_Skyrim_Items.esp

Unleveled_Dragonborn_Items.esp

Unique Unique.esp

Legendary Artifacts.esp

DynamicLoot.esp

JobsofSkyrim.esp

Physic Magic 0.8v.esp

ward shield.esp

ReneersCrimeOverhaul.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

fight_like_a_badass.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Hunterborn.esp

Campfire Cooking.esp

Campfire Cooking [Alchemy].esp

CookingAlchemy.esp

SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp

Survive The Night.esp

SkyrimHeartRate.esp

Fire_of_Vigor.esp

KoS_Land_at_War.esp

becomeabeggar.esp

becomeahighwayman.esp

AK- Clothe Dead NPCs.esp

SkyRealism - Detection Durations.esp

Exhausted.esp

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp

ImmersiveQuesting.esp

Companions Radiant Quest Adjustment.esp

Dawnguard Radiant Quest Adjustment.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

Better_Standing_Stones.esp

Better_Divine_Blessings.esp

Infinite Werewolf.esp

No Skill Limit.esp

MorePP.esp

Perky.esp

Makethemslaves.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenuOverlays.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Random Alternate Start.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

WATER.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp

warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp

Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

(this pic i took with the latest ENB Kountervibe, i think the author is on holiday now and has disabled his page for the moment, but he will be back soon, we hope :laugh:)

Edited October 16, 2013 by baloo42

[Treplos]

- You can always force custom rules in BOSS if you already have a better working load order.

- You should use /spoiler tags for large lists :P

[baloo42]

Thanks for that useful tip Treplos!

i will definitely give it a go :wink:

Edited October 12, 2013 by baloo42

[baloo42]

One more thing to share with the Skyrim community

Here a some software apps that really helped me get Skyrim running to its fullest potential:

1: Onetweak - this will get your Skyrim running in Windowed mode (with this i was able to get higher FPS, especially in indoor cells.

Remember to disable fullscreen mode in your ini)

2: GameBooster - from Razer (this will optimize your Windows and free more resources)

3: Mz CPU Accelerator (this nifty app will proritize your CPU usage, giving Skyrim everything your hardware has to offer :smile:)

4: MyDefrag (great piece of software for faster disk defrag times)

5: CCleaner (use this for safely cleaning your registry, and general system maintenance)

6: Skyrim Performance Monitor (handy app that will help you see when your V-RAM is being over-taxed)

7: Use Medium game settings for your initial ini (of course there are settings you will want to increase :thumbsup:)

i can't remember the exact mod or link, but there was one ENB author who published a bunch of optimized ini's, specificly for ENB users, i used these as a base template

8: Just found this one. Create a shortcut of your executable, if it's SKSE, then make a shortcut of that, then add "+fullproc" in the 'location' section, under 'properties' (this tells Skyrim to utilize your multi-core setup)

9: Hardware Overclocking - this one really helped big-time (just be sure to read reliable documents on this, and get the correct software to help you)

i used AMD Overdrives Auto-Tune feature to get stable and tested values, then took the HT-Ref Clock value and manually inputed that into my BIOS

Then it's all good to go [with AMD overdrive, the CPU will never come close to its max temp, so it is a safe method, in my experience. and it's made by the hardware manufacturers for the hardware]

Also, be sure to install the latest BIOS, Chipset drivers, video drivers, and sound drivers for your setup

For the GPU overclock, i used the official software application only (Nvidia provides the software on their website, Nvidia System Tools)

Find reliable sources on the internet for your specific cards stable overclocking values, ones which have been tried and tested

Notably, the Geforce cards have a lot of untapped potential here

i am using a GTS 450, and got about a 10FPS increase from doing this,

Max Temperatures for graphics cards tend to be quite a general value,

but CPU's vary greatly, so again, be sure to check for the correct values according to your manufacturer

[check the post by Treplos below for an alternate view]

GPU helped FPS --- CPU helped adding more content & spawns

(i have a stock cooler on my AMD CPU, i just use HW Monitor to keep an eye on my temps for sanity reasons, but they never climb too high at all)

10: When all else fails, play some online Chess, this has helped me stacks when searching my mind for answers which i could not find. And always remember that Google is your best ally

:wink:

Edited October 17, 2013 by baloo42

[baloo42]

[see next post] :wink:

Edited October 16, 2013 by baloo42

[Treplos]

That is a pretty pic and those are a lot of mods! I wish my laptop was better to run Skyrim as beautifully as some of the pics I keep seeing. It is only mid-range and cannot handle that many mods, especially eye candy ones :sad:.

 

As a general warning, do NOT attempt to over-clock anything on your system, unless you know what you are doing and also have adequate power from your PSU and adequate cooling. Even though modern parts, like motherboards, have some form of protection, OCing can still damage your system or components and it is just not worth it, unless you have taken precautions. Also, some systems come pre-OC'ed, so you should be careful.

 

Lastly, insert your list in spoiler tags dude lol

[spoiler]your list[/spoiler]

Edited October 12, 2013 by Treplos

[baloo42]

Ahhhh! Thanks mate, just the mod i needed, "Spoiler Tags" Lol !! :laugh:

Hey man, i like your Punisher pic btw :thumbsup:

Edited October 16, 2013 by baloo42