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The Roggvir Execution bug.

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I've seen a lot of this bug posted in many different areas around the internet but no real solution to get to behave properly as scripted.

 

Here are some relevant posts:

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/728452-roggvir-execution-bug/

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2266757

http://www.gameskyrim.com/hostile-solitude-guards-during-roggvir-execution-t222459.html

 

If you do not want to read the above forum posts, here is the setting. As for background, my character has sided with the Stormcloaks. (I previously thought this would be the reason for much of the glitch, but it did not affect the outcome.)

 

1.) Only Roggvir, Athar, and Taarie are present at the execution scene. None of the rest of town is present watching. This makes me wonder if there are people in Solitude missing or unspawned. (!)

2.) Roggvir is standing; Athar has his axe; and Taarie screams "Traitor!".

3.) If you talk to Taarie within the first minute of arrival, she complains that you are interrupting her from watching the execution.

4.) If you attempt to pickpocket Athar and Taarie, even if you have never met them before, it will say they have already caught you. And then you will not be able to see their inventory. Roggvir is pickpocketable.

5.) After a minute or two, if you talk to Taarie she will complain about the execution not being bloody enough for her tastes and walks away, yet Roggvir stands unharmed and then Athar eventually puts down his axe and walks off-stage.

6.) Roggvir then walks over to the grindstone and begins using it.

7.) Two minutes after this all of the Solitude guards become hostile toward you and attempt to kill you without any bounty being displayed.

 

(!) As prescribed in other posts, I've attempted to wait at least 3 days away from Solitude, but they do not show up. Also I have had Open Cities Skyrim disabled long before approaching Solitude.

 

The forum posts do NOT provide an accurate fix for the scripted execution nor the hostility of the Solitude guards or pickpocketing.

 

Regarding the hostility and pickpocketing, the only way I have not been pursued by the entire town is to strike a guard and pay off a newly accrued bounty before the execution has "completed." Stormcloak or not, at this point I can walk around town unharmed.

 

The issue being is that his is a very immersion-breaking glitch! I will provide the list of mods I have installed. I use BOSS to order them as well.


06/11/2013  10:07 AM         1,334,065 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
12/03/2012  06:58 PM        24,487,466 Dawnguard.esm
02/05/2013  07:34 PM        64,071,603 Dragonborn.esm
09/27/2013  07:11 PM        24,743,380 Falskaar.esm
12/04/2012  11:58 AM         3,459,650 HearthFires.esm
10/10/2013  12:09 AM           123,385 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
12/04/2012  12:02 PM       249,371,467 Skyrim.esm
10/09/2013  01:25 PM           395,704 SMPC.esm
09/01/2013  10:45 AM         1,763,398 SPERG.esm
06/16/2013  12:20 PM             2,960 SPIKE.esm
02/05/2013  07:34 PM         1,089,070 Update.esm
10/10/2013  02:09 AM           274,875 Xvision Children.esm

09/09/2013  03:30 PM        16,835,537 3DNPC.esp
06/16/2013  12:31 PM             4,280 AchieveThat.esp
10/13/2013  01:25 AM               866 AMatterOfTime.esp
10/11/2013  12:31 AM           102,820 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
10/11/2013  12:19 AM            21,803 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
10/10/2013  12:39 AM           494,801 AOS.esp
10/10/2013  02:06 AM             6,299 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
10/10/2013  01:42 AM            10,226 AshRocks.esp
06/17/2013  02:47 AM             7,575 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
06/16/2013  10:05 PM             1,314 Babette.esp
06/10/2013  11:56 PM           317,884 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
07/03/2013  12:51 AM            32,040 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
10/10/2013  01:28 AM           142,813 BirdsHFclean.esp
06/16/2013  10:09 PM           463,644 Birdsofskyrim.esp
10/10/2013  02:02 AM            32,663 BLEED.esp
12/07/2012  04:28 AM               206 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
10/10/2013  01:35 AM             7,355 ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp
07/03/2013  01:18 AM             1,864 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
07/03/2013  01:18 AM            19,598 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
07/03/2013  01:22 AM             3,985 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-7.esp
07/03/2013  01:32 AM            31,372 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
10/13/2013  06:36 PM           301,927 Convenient Horses.esp
09/01/2013  10:54 AM            87,249 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
06/16/2013  12:28 PM               848 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
06/16/2013  12:17 PM             9,838 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
07/03/2013  01:38 AM            27,457 Destructible_bottles.esp
10/11/2013  12:32 AM            85,679 Differently Ebony.esp
10/12/2013  11:44 PM            90,162 DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp
08/05/2013  04:46 PM            88,886 Dr_Bandolier.esp
08/09/2013  01:52 PM           597,693 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
08/09/2013  01:51 PM         1,017,235 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
08/09/2013  01:51 PM           151,003 ELFXEnhancer.esp
06/29/2013  08:16 AM             7,742 ENB Snow FX.esp
07/20/2012  12:37 AM            13,460 enbweather.esp
07/02/2013  09:26 AM             3,069 enb_reference.esp
08/09/2013  01:51 PM         3,292,514 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
09/09/2013  10:41 AM               831 EpisodeParallax.esp
08/15/2013  10:30 PM            33,739 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
08/12/2013  02:59 PM               464 FalskaarDawnguard.esp
10/04/2013  09:33 AM            20,467 FNISspells.esp
06/16/2013  12:36 PM           116,297 Footprints.esp
06/16/2013  12:29 PM           460,577 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
06/11/2013  12:02 PM             6,147 Headtracking.esp
02/08/2012  01:21 AM                66 HighResTexturePack01.esp
02/08/2012  01:21 AM                66 HighResTexturePack02.esp
06/16/2013  12:20 PM           246,159 hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
08/05/2013  04:50 PM             4,423 iHUD.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           169,067 Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           497,743 Immersive Dawnstar.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           201,058 Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           311,484 Immersive Falkreath.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           279,230 Immersive Ivarstead.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           205,989 Immersive Karthwasten.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           189,509 Immersive Kynesgrove.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           262,112 Immersive Morthal.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           518,395 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           363,707 Immersive Riverwood.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           372,556 Immersive Rorikstead.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           243,826 Immersive Shors stone.esp
07/03/2013  12:46 AM           210,961 Immersive Solstheim.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           174,370 Immersive Stonehills.esp
09/01/2013  10:47 AM           671,998 Immersive Whiterun.esp
10/10/2013  01:45 AM             2,914 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
10/10/2013  01:45 AM             9,316 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
10/10/2013  01:45 AM            15,428 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
09/27/2013  07:04 PM           656,013 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
08/19/2013  12:53 PM            28,289 MissingApprentices.esp
10/10/2013  01:31 AM            28,467 Morning Fogs.esp
09/15/2013  12:16 AM            17,426 Moss Rocks.esp
09/15/2013  12:16 AM               471 Moss Rocks_DB.esp
10/10/2013  01:42 AM               379 moveit.esp
10/10/2013  02:12 AM            77,326 My_Little_hatchling.esp
10/10/2013  02:12 AM            29,377 My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp
06/17/2013  03:25 AM            85,822 NonEssentialChildren.esp
10/10/2013  02:03 AM            23,091 Notification Overhaul.esp

(Disabled)
05/10/2013  03:01 PM           131,818 OCS + Dragonborn.esp
11/06/2012  01:43 AM            58,578 OCS + Hearthfire Patch.esp
08/05/2013  04:56 PM           499,432 OCS + Skyrim Sewers.esp
08/05/2013  04:55 PM         2,615,532 Open Cities Skyrim.esp
(/Disabled)

09/15/2013  02:35 PM           228,806 PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0 - Main.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            47,852 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            93,327 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            83,543 PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            65,999 PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            78,417 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            40,458 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM           128,549 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            72,515 PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            79,496 PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp
09/15/2013  02:35 PM            78,071 PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp
09/10/2013  05:58 AM               958 PerkPointPotion.esp
02/08/2012  08:39 PM            15,418 portal2mod.esp
06/23/2013  10:35 PM            23,201 Predator Vision.esp
10/10/2013  01:43 AM               363 Proper Aiming.esp
10/10/2013  01:36 AM             4,315 Purewaters-Falskaar.esp
10/13/2013  01:26 AM               547 RaceMenu.esp
10/13/2013  01:26 AM               297 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
07/03/2013  01:36 AM             6,633 Rainbows.esp
08/12/2013  12:37 PM            60,866 Real Clouds.esp
06/25/2013  06:59 AM           193,143 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
06/25/2013  06:59 AM            59,273 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
06/25/2013  06:59 AM           161,525 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
06/25/2013  06:59 AM         1,042,939 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
06/25/2013  06:59 AM            42,260 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
10/13/2013  01:34 AM             5,646 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
10/13/2013  01:34 AM           103,932 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
10/13/2013  01:34 AM             5,583 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
10/13/2013  01:34 AM            76,905 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
10/13/2013  01:34 AM           122,041 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
10/13/2013  01:33 AM           305,575 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
06/24/2013  05:07 PM             5,785 ResearchThief.esp
10/10/2013  12:23 AM           187,043 RevampedExteriorFog.esp
06/16/2013  12:32 PM           276,317 Run For Your Lives.esp
10/13/2013  06:41 PM           179,918 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
09/01/2013  10:53 AM           146,021 SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC and Falskaar.esp
10/13/2013  06:41 PM            11,560 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
06/26/2013  09:49 PM            10,369 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
10/10/2013  01:49 AM           185,668 SkyTweak.esp
06/25/2013  06:54 AM             2,385 SkyUI.esp
10/06/2013  12:36 PM            14,275 SmartCast_1_0.esp
06/17/2013  10:54 AM               552 Smoking Torches.esp
09/01/2013  10:57 AM             5,071 SPERG Immersive Armors.esp
09/01/2013  10:45 AM           119,383 SPERG-DB.esp
09/01/2013  10:45 AM            31,668 SPERG-DG.esp
09/01/2013  10:45 AM            45,086 SPERG.esp
07/29/2013  12:54 PM            12,643 SplashofRain.esp
10/10/2013  02:06 AM            19,646 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
10/10/2013  02:07 AM            35,320 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
10/10/2013  02:07 AM               565 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimDGPatch.esp
09/20/2013  04:37 PM             1,044 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
09/20/2013  04:37 PM               407 StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
09/20/2013  04:37 PM             2,546 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
10/10/2013  01:24 AM            51,057 temp_sounds.esp
09/15/2013  12:11 AM            25,003 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
07/01/2013  12:43 PM           180,064 TradeBarter.esp
10/13/2013  01:52 AM         4,924,374 Undeath.esp
09/29/2013  10:15 AM             8,726 Unique Grasses.esp
08/12/2013  11:45 AM           686,718 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
08/25/2013  10:39 AM           423,947 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
08/19/2013  12:54 PM           250,861 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
10/09/2013  01:25 PM               307 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
08/05/2013  07:18 PM         5,934,220 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
10/10/2013  01:48 AM               445 vAutosaveManager.esp
10/09/2013  01:27 PM           139,902 WATER DB Waves.esp
10/09/2013  01:27 PM             3,687 WATER DG.esp
10/09/2013  01:27 PM             4,659 WATER Falskaar.esp
10/09/2013  01:27 PM            31,284 WATER Plants.esp
10/09/2013  01:27 PM            16,520 WATER.esp
10/04/2013  09:27 AM            52,461 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
10/04/2013  09:28 AM           896,451 WetandCold.esp
08/05/2013  04:58 PM           156,850 When Vampires Attack.esp
10/06/2013  12:46 PM        17,010,306 Wyrmstooth.esp
10/11/2013  03:35 PM             4,998 Xvision Children - 3DNPC.esp
10/11/2013  03:33 PM            23,080 Xvision Children - Complete.esp
10/11/2013  03:34 PM             1,960 Xvision Children - Falskaar.esp
10/11/2013  03:34 PM            56,590 Xvision Children - IncNPCs.esp
10/11/2013  03:35 PM           212,476 Xvision Children - NEC.esp
10/11/2013  03:35 PM             5,115 Xvision Children - USKP.esp
10/11/2013  03:35 PM             1,224 Xvision Children - Wyrmstooth.esp
             172 File(s)    441,038,036 bytes
               0 Dir(s)  327,578,783,744 bytes free

Every mod in the list is up to date to this point.

 

Does anyone have any hunches or ideas on how to fix this glitch so that people can see the execution? Are particular mods the possible culprit? I have so many mods and don't know where to start. :P

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[10/14/2013 - 12:57:41PM] Warning: Unable to get type ARTH_OCS_AhtarMoveScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

 

Looks like Open Cities Skyrim still put a reference in my save file. How to I clean Open Cities Skyrim references from my save game?

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[10/14/2013 - 12:57:41PM] Warning: Unable to get type ARTH_OCS_AhtarMoveScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

 

Looks like Open Cities Skyrim still put a reference in my save file. How to I clean Open Cities Skyrim references from my save game?

I got stuck on this bug too. Took me a couple of hours to figure out how to fix it. First of all, it definitely seems related to Open Cities Skyrim. I still had an OCS .esp file in my lord order, but it was deselected. I had removed it (but not completely) at some point in the past. What I had to do was download the current version of Open Cities, run BOSS on my load order, then load from a save game that had never been to the Solitude cell. When I arrived in Solitude, everyone was gathered for the execution. However, the script was still bugged. It stopped just before the actual execution. From other posts on the forum, I figured out how to go to the console, run "kill" on everyone on the execution platform, then resurrect everyone but Roggvir. After resurrection, the crowd dispersed normally. Still not sure if I'm going to hit more problems down the road. Looks like I'm stuck with OCS for now.

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