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[codeblackcrash]

In response to post #117130878. #117140838, #117155928, #117163943 are all replies on the same post.

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moonkull9 wrote: may I ask? are authors themselves ok about there mods being used in collections when they don't want them to. if that happens            

imwilk3 wrote: It does happen and the authors have had mixed responses. Some left the modding community, others embrace it as a new horizon. Overall it would seem as authors continue posting new mods they are OK with it.

moonkull9 wrote:       

LordXardas wrote: Nobody asked them. Dark0ne doesn't run a democracy, but a business, so the mod authors were simply degraded to be "content providers". Now, they are also trying to offload parts of the support tasks to them, as UhuruNUru described above.

As to why people keep releasing mods here, do you know of any similarly prominent site?

I'm 1000% okay with my mods being used in collections. I literally cannot understand why someone would be against it. It makes it easier for end users and gets more people exposure to an author's work.

[codeblackcrash]

In response to post #117120903. #117124353, #117124668 are all replies on the same post.

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84Cronos wrote: I'm thankful for all the curators who take the time to create these awesome collections, but can we, the mod authors, please get some kind of indication which collections are including our mods? That would be very helpful.

Xayjyn wrote: Precisely why this system is never going to work unless it's gamed to f*** and back. Why would anyone ever bother posting a mod here?

"Here's my content i have ZERO control over."

Utter horseshit.

Pickysaurus wrote: We've mentioned that feature specifically in the "What's next?" section at the bottom ;) 

Nice! Very much looking forward to that.

[Pickysaurus]

In response to post #117210853.

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codeblackcrash wrote: Cool stuff here. I'd love to see some of these UI changes (and especially the Markdown WYSIWYG editor) brought over to the standard Nexus site.

Also, is there a way for mod pages to show what collections they're a part of? Sort of like the Mods requiring this file section on mod pages.

A good chunk of what we've built here will be reusable with mod pages when they get moved to Nexus Mods Next. 

As for your other point. This is what we mean by "Filter Collections by Mod(s)" in the "What's next?" section. :) 

Edited by Pickysaurus, 04 November 2022 - 02:40 pm.

[pyrosmerfzx]

I love every bit of this!
Thank You for you hard work and diligence in refining and perfecting our Modding experience.
I look forward to the many years to come!

[XilaMonstrr]

Awesome! I'm looking forward to more updates

[Sedition1111]

As someone who had to reinstall Skyrim and related mods a few times due to various issues, the collection section has been an absolute godsend...a master-stroke of genius. When OOTD and several Beyond Skyrim mods come out, I'll probably have to do it again. The collections makes it to where I use FAR less profanity on the reload.
The fact that some minor issues are being worked on is just extra icing on the cake. One helluva job!

Edited by Sedition1111, 05 November 2022 - 08:41 pm.

[Roccondil]

In response to post #117130878. #117140838, #117155928, #117163943, #117210893 are all replies on the same post.

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moonkull9 wrote: may I ask? are authors themselves ok about there mods being used in collections when they don't want them to. if that happens            

imwilk3 wrote: It does happen and the authors have had mixed responses. Some left the modding community, others embrace it as a new horizon. Overall it would seem as authors continue posting new mods they are OK with it.

moonkull9 wrote:       

LordXardas wrote: Nobody asked them. Dark0ne doesn't run a democracy, but a business, so the mod authors were simply degraded to be "content providers". Now, they are also trying to offload parts of the support tasks to them, as UhuruNUru described above.

As to why people keep releasing mods here, do you know of any similarly prominent site?

codeblackcrash wrote: I'm 1000% okay with my mods being used in collections. I literally cannot understand why someone would be against it. It makes it easier for end users and gets more people exposure to an author's work.

Why wouldn't they? it's essentially as if the curator was a youtuber sharing good mods in a video, with links in the description below.

Except now there is just one link that auto-downloads everything, rather than the viewer having to go to every mod individually and hit the button there. And as I understand it the mod's analytics are still appropriately updated for the mod's author as if the mod was downloaded from the page directly.

[tesnexus8]

In response to post #117130878. #117140838, #117155928, #117163943, #117210893, #117331423 are all replies on the same post.

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moonkull9 wrote: may I ask? are authors themselves ok about there mods being used in collections when they don't want them to. if that happens            

imwilk3 wrote: It does happen and the authors have had mixed responses. Some left the modding community, others embrace it as a new horizon. Overall it would seem as authors continue posting new mods they are OK with it.

moonkull9 wrote:       

LordXardas wrote: Nobody asked them. Dark0ne doesn't run a democracy, but a business, so the mod authors were simply degraded to be "content providers". Now, they are also trying to offload parts of the support tasks to them, as UhuruNUru described above.

As to why people keep releasing mods here, do you know of any similarly prominent site?

codeblackcrash wrote: I'm 1000% okay with my mods being used in collections. I literally cannot understand why someone would be against it. It makes it easier for end users and gets more people exposure to an author's work.

Roccondil wrote: Why wouldn't they? it's essentially as if the curator was a youtuber sharing good mods in a video, with links in the description below.

Except now there is just one link that auto-downloads everything, rather than the viewer having to go to every mod individually and hit the button there. And as I understand it the mod's analytics are still appropriately updated for the mod's author as if the mod was downloaded from the page directly.

I'm also fine with it, but if you "literally cannot understand" why many people didn't feel the same way maybe this'll help:

Some authors didn't want to deal with even more mod-conflict "bug" reports caused by integrators missing an interaction and putting a mod that guaranteed problems with theirs in a collection.

Others objected to having control of their work taken away from them. Say the Nexus expresses an opinion a few months from now that an author finds morally unacceptable: that women and blacks don't deserve civil rights, for example. With collections, those authors have lost the ability to remove their mods from the site in protest, and could even be viewed as endorsing that position when in reality they're opposed to it.

Others had different reasons, but those were the two big ones. There are significant pros and cons on both sides, with a lot of nuance to some of them: it's a more complex issue than it looks, and unfortunately one that didn't have an answer that could keep everyone happy, which is why quite a few high-profile modders chose to leave the Nexus over it rather than accept the negatives. You and I don't have to feel the same way, but that doesn't make their response any less valid.

Edited by tesnexus8, 06 November 2022 - 10:01 am.

[Aelothon]

all collections are grey-out for me? not sure what to do about that 

[ChicagoJoe]

Filter Collections by Mod(s)

God yes this!