Getting non-random CTDs on certain points.

[Antyrael86]

Hello there.

 

I could need help with a problem. I want to use mods for skyrim.

 

My problem is a constant CTD i´m getting. always on the same points ind the game.

 

These points are:

1. in helgen (after char creation) after you jump out of the tower and meet the little boy and the two guys.

 

2. shortyl after 1. when u choose with who you want to enter the building. axactly when entering the building.

 

3. after the escape when exiting the caves.

 

4. when using a savegame i can flawlessly enter any building, but i get a ctd when i want to leave it.

 

 

 

What i did so far:

 

I installed the mods using NMM,

I used BOSS for the load.

I cleaned the mods (and official addons with TES5Edit.

I Used BOSS again to check again.

I already have the ENBoost installed.

 

 

 

And now to the infos i can provide.

 

 

My Rig:

 

OS: Win 7 Prof. x64

CPU: AMD FX-8350

GPU: NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti Boost (2GB VRAM)

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB GeiL Dragon Ram)

 

 

My BOSS summary:

 

BOSS
Version 2.1.1


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Summary
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Plugin Type Count
Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 47
Unrecognised 0
Inactive 0
All 47


Plugin Message Type Count
Warning 0
Error 0
All 8


* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1472899-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")
* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.
* Note: The order of plugins set by BOSS differs from their order in its masterlist, as one or more of the installed plugins is false-flagged. For more information, see "file:../Docs/BOSS%20Readme.html#appendix-c False-Flagged Plugins".


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SKSE Plugins
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SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16

CellStabilizer.dll


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Recognised Plugins
======================================


These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


Dawnguard.esm Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


HearthFires.esm Active

Dragonborn.esm Active

Falskaar.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}
* Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt ("https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25091645/Skyrim/userlist.txt"). After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder.


Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}


Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}


HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

Glass Variants.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}


IA6npc01.esp Active

BetterDGEntrance.esp Active

Wyrmstooth.esp Active

WyrmstoothTravelCrashHotfix.esp Active

WyrmstothMapMarkerHotfix.esp Active

armored-horses.esp Active

Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active

Book Covers Dawnguard.esp Active

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp Active

Book Covers Dragonborn.esp Active

Differently Ebony.esp Active

FalskaarDawnguard.esp Active

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active

UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active

Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp Active

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active

Beards.esp Active

Brows.esp Active

HothFollower.esp Active

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp Active

barenziahquestmarkers.esp Active

Unique Region Names.esp Active

 

 

 

My latest papyrus log:

 

 

 

[12/11/2013 - 10:18:48PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[12/11/2013 - 10:18:48PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[12/11/2013 - 10:18:48PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[12/11/2013 - 10:18:59PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?
[12/11/2013 - 10:18:59PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:30PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (26003DEF) cannot be bound because (0003BDE9) is not the right type
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript OnInit
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript Maintenance
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript SKSE installed, release 44
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript Current Version 210, Last Version 0
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [zbloodEBTmenu ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [uBG20ConfigMenuQuestScript ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [DanceOfDeathMCMScript ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Error: Cannot SendStoryEvent before start up quests have been initialized.
stack:
[uBGStartDetectQuestKeyword (2500639D)].Keyword.SendStoryEvent() - "" Line ?
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 72
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Error: Cannot call HasSpell() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 75
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp5"
stack:
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 75
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Error: Cannot call AddSpell() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 77
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp13"
stack:
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 77
[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [ski_favoritesmanager ]: Updating to script version 2
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [ski_activeeffectswidget ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [ski_activeeffectswidget ]: Updating to script version 2
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ]: Registered Immersive HUD at MCM.
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [zbloodEBTmenu ]: Registered Enhanced Blood at MCM.
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [uBG20ConfigMenuQuestScript ]: Registered Unread Books Glow at MCM.
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [DanceOfDeathMCMScript ]: Registered Der Tanz des Todes at MCM.
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 2
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 3
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 4
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 5
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 6
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 7
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] DLC1: Starting DLC1 Initialization quest.
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] [DLC2_QF_DLC2_MQ04_02016E02 ] DLC2Init quest START
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] PATCH 1.5 QUEST HAS STARTED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] PATCH 1.6 QUEST HAS STARTED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] PATCH 1.9 QUEST HAS STARTED
[12/11/2013 - 10:19:58PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[12/11/2013 - 10:20:02PM] [DLC2_QF_DLC2_MQ04_02016E02 ] DLC2Init quest DONE
[12/11/2013 - 10:20:02PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Registered SKY UI at MCM.
[12/11/2013 - 10:20:02PM] PATCH 1.4 QUEST HAS STARTED
[12/11/2013 - 10:20:03PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ] INITIALIZED
[12/11/2013 - 10:20:03PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ]: Registered Immersive HUD at MCM.
[12/11/2013 - 10:23:56PM] VM is freezing...
[12/11/2013 - 10:23:56PM] VM is frozen
[12/11/2013 - 10:23:57PM] Saving game...
[12/11/2013 - 10:23:57PM] VM is thawing...
[12/11/2013 - 10:26:17PM] VM is freezing...
[12/11/2013 - 10:26:17PM] VM is frozen
[12/11/2013 - 10:26:18PM] Saving game...
[12/11/2013 - 10:26:18PM] VM is thawing...

 

 

 

My Skyrim.ini

 

 

[General]
sLanguage=GERMAN

uExterior Cell Buffer=64
uGridsToLoad=7
iPreloadSizeLimit=51380224

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=1024
bAllowScreenshot=0

[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]
iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=5
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0


[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1

[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectSky=1
bReflectLODTrees=1

 

 

 

My SkyrimPrefs.ini

 

 

[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=2
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=8000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=16
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=1e+007
fGamma=1.0000
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=2000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=3500
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=8
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=1
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=1024
iSize W=1280
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1e+007
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=1e+007
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST"
bFXAAEnabled=0
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowBiasScale=0.15
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iAdapter=0
iPresentInterval=1
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
bMouseAcceleration=1
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=1.0000
uID3=0
fVal2=0.4000
uID2=466532
fVal1=1.0000
uID1=554685
fVal0=0.8000
uID0=1007612
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000
fBlockLevel1Distance=70000
fBlockLevel0Distance=35000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5
bShowLODInEditor=0
[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=1000
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15
fLODFadeOutMultItems=15
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=2
[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1
[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0

 

 

 

Any suggestion?

[CookieDoeh]

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp Active

 

But i cant see ur using UFO?

[Antyrael86]

now that u point it. :smile:

 

i uninstalled UFO since i thought it was the troublemaker.

 

 

i´ll give it a try.

Edited December 11, 2013 by Antyrael86

[Antyrael86]

Nope. ctd at point 1. in the original post.

[Antyrael86]

By the way:

 

Is there actually a good way to post ALL mods i have installed?

 

Since BOSS only show the ones with plugins for the load order but by far not all installed mods.

[Maniax2]

I believe that you are using a wrong load order for the Unofficial Patches which is strange since you are using BOSS this is mine:

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

• Skyrim.esm Active
• Update.esm Active
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
• Dawnguard.esm Active
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
• HearthFires.esm Active
• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
• Dragonborn.esm Active
• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active

also what is that skse plugin you have there

"CellStabilizer.dll"

i ask because usually the Cell Spawns are very delicate to manipulate and that causes plenty of random ctds in outdoors...is that from the mod Stable uGridsToLoad by Altimor? if you have uGridstoLoad above 5 that also gives a lot of instability...

Edited December 12, 2013 by Maniax2

[DemongelRex]

The starting intro quest of the game is very sensitive to mods and you should only install the bare minimum of mods such as overhauls, and UI changes.

 

Uninstall the following and start a new game:

 

The Static Mesh Improvement esp's are not necessary; they are covered in the Unofficial Patches.

 

You shouldn't use the Bethesda High-Res Pack, use the ones on the nexus. You can get rid of 4 esp's that way.

 

Uninstall all quest mods and follower mods (Such as Falskaar and Wyrmstooth) and the barenziah quest markers.

 

And uninstall all mods that you won't need immediately, like the alternate Dawnguard Entrance.

 

Finally, cut down on some Hi-Res files and use ENBoost. Tell us your results.

[Antyrael86]

yes, the CellStabilizer is from Altimor´s uGridsToLoad.

 

i deleted it. Didn´t change anything.

 

I reduced my uGridstoLoad back to 5. Didn´t change anything.

 

I corrected my load order by hand to look like your post. Didn´t change anything.

 

i try with a new game everytime. and i always get ctd at point 1. in my original post.

 

 

I am kinda getting sick to see the lots and lots of videos of people playing skyrim with a whole bunch of mods and seeing me not able to run a handful of them.

[Antyrael86]

The starting intro quest of the game is very sensitive to mods and you should only install the bare minimum of mods such as overhauls, and UI changes.

 

Uninstall the following and start a new game:

 

The Static Mesh Improvement esp's are not necessary; they are covered in the Unofficial Patches.

 

You shouldn't use the Bethesda High-Res Pack, use the ones on the nexus. You can get rid of 4 esp's that way.

 

Uninstall all quest mods and follower mods (Such as Falskaar and Wyrmstooth) and the barenziah quest markers.

 

And uninstall all mods that you won't need immediately, like the alternate Dawnguard Entrance.

 

Finally, cut down on some Hi-Res files and use ENBoost. Tell us your results.

 

 

Okay. i´ll do that.

 

c ya later then.

[Antyrael86]

and again ctd.

 

this time at point 2. in my original post.

 

i removed ALL mods and then just inserted the ones necessary in the beginning (UNP body, eyes, brows, beards) and the unofficial patches.

i also removed the official high-res pack. and therefore i didn´t use the unofficial high-res patch either.

 

and i have ENBoost running with these settings:

 

englobal.ini

 

 

 

[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=false
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[GLOBAL]
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true
UseDefferedRendering=false
ForceFakeVideocard=false

[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true

[MULTIHEAD]
ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false
VideoAdapterIndex=0

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb=1920
EnableCompression=true

[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=false
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true
MaxAnisotropy=16
EnableVSync=true
AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false

[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=true
FPSLimit=60.0

[iNPUT]
//shift
KeyCombination=16
//f12
KeyUseEffect=123
//home
KeyFPSLimit=36
//num / 106
KeyShowFPS=106
//print screen
KeyScreenshot=44
//enter
KeyEditor=13
//f4
KeyFreeVRAM=115

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]
Enable=false
Quality=1
DesiredFPS=20.0

[ANTIALIASING]
EnableEdgeAA=false
EnableTemporalAA=false
EnableSubPixelAA=false
EnableTransparencyAA=false

[FIX]
FixGameBugs=true
FixParallaxBugs=true
FixAliasedTextures=true
IgnoreLoadingScreen=false
IgnoreInventory=true
FixSsaoWaterTransparency=true
FixSsaoHairTransparency=true
FixTintGamma=true
RemoveBlur=true
FixSubSurfaceScattering=true
FixSkyReflection=true
FixCursorVisibility=true