Game becomes unstable with too many ESPs?

[Deleted5965139User]

I only recently acquired New Vegas for PC after growing tired of it on console, and decided to completely revamp it with as many mods as I could working with a clean save and my experience modding Oblivion, and I was successful until I ran into a very unusual error.

 

I installed a few new mods and when I went to test them, the game became unstable. To be precise, all modded meshes, such as my pip-boy 2500, the faces of every character affected by the Fallout Character Overhaul (which is all of them save for my own), and other such modded resources fail to load and became missing mesh icons. The pause menu became unavailable (the esc key was unresponsive), the screen turned pink when I brought up the console (which may be due to a dynavision missing texture that added static to it) and if I attempted to enter a new cell the game would crash.

 

Obviously my first assumption was that there was a conflict, but couldn't find what it could possibly be when viewing the files. I uninstalled those mods anyway to be safe, and tried a different batch. The same problem occurred. After some experimentation I found that there wasn't any conflicts, just that the game would fail to load modded resources if I had any esp's active in the '8f' ranking of the load order. It is also worth mentioning that when loading a clean save, the game works fine at first until it finishes loading the esp in the 8f rank, then suddenly the meshes disappear and the game becomes unstable as described above. However, as soon as I deactivate any esps until there is no longer one in the '8f' slot, the game works fine.

 

 

This is my current WORKING load order. The game runs perfectly with the list posted here, but the second I activate any one of the unchecked esps shown or and any other esp (yes, even the innoculous TWO BEARS HIGHFIVING.esp and several weapon and armor additons), the game becomes unstable.

 

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Core.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

[X] JIP Selective-Fire.esm

[X] FCOMaster.esm

[X] Inventory Access.esm

[X] Active Wasteland.esm

[X] More Perks.esm

[X] More Perks for Companions.esm

[X] More Traits.esm

[X] DFB - Random Encounters.esm

[X] Companion Core.esm

[X] RobCo Certified.esm

[X] IWS-Core.esm

[X] AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

[X] Children of the Wasteland.esm

[X] UWHNV-Core.esm

[X] SomeguySeries.esm

[X] Niner.esm

[X] CFWNV.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

[X] NSkies URWLified.esm

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

[X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

[X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

[ ] TWO BEARS HIGHFIVING.esp

[X] WeaponModsExpanded.esp

[X] WMX-DeadMoney.esp

[X] WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

[X] WMX-HonestHearts.esp

[X] WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

[X] WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

[X] WMX-MW-GRA.esp

[X] WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

[X] WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

[X] UHNV.esp

[X] UHNV-OWB.esp

[X] UHNV-Lonesome Road.esp

[X] UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp

[X] UHNV-Dead Money.esp

[X] WeaponJamming.esp

[X] JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp

[X] FCO.esp

[ ] Ambient Temperature - PPA.esp

[X] Jump Fall Fixer.esp

[X] Powered Power Armor.esp

[X] LFox Bottle That Water.esp

[X] Alternative Repairing.esp

[X] Alternative Repairing - Honest Hearts.esp

[X] Alternative Repairing - Bottle That Water.esp

[X] Active Wasteland - Coffee Maker.esp

[X] Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp

[X] Active Wasteland - Dead Money Goggle Tints.esp

[X] Active Wasteland - Dead Money Replacements.esp

[X] Active Wasteland - Goggle Tints.esp

[X] Active Wasteland - Vanilla Replacements.esp

[X] dressup.esp

[X] Companions Relax.esp

[X] AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp

[X] Follower Home Marker.esp

[X] More Perks Update.esp

[X] More Perks for Companions Update.esp

[X] More Traits Update.esp

[X] pipboy2500_edisleado.esp

[X] DFB - Random Encounters - Update - MCM.esp

[X] RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

[X] NVWillow.esp

[X] Project Nevada - WMX.esp

[X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

[X] Light My Flare.esp

[X] GRARG.esp

[X] AWOPDeadMoney.esp

[X] AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

[X] FlashlightNVSE.esp

[X] Children of the Wasteland - No Essential.esp

[X] Glow Sticks.esp

[X] UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

[X] UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp

[X] UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

[X] UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp

[ ] UWHNV-Addon-Time for Bed NV.esp

[X] UnlimitedCompanions.esp

[X] WMX-AWOP Patch.esp

[X] TheInheritance.esp

[X] NewVegasBounties.esp

[X] NewVegasBountiesII.esp

[X] Russell.esp

[X] Faster Terminals.esp

[X] delilah.esp

[X] Colored Piplight - Amber.esp

[ ] Colored Piplight - Blue.esp

[ ] Colored Piplight - Green.esp

[ ] Colored Piplight - White.esp

[X] Piplight Brightness - 200%.esp

[ ] Piplight Brightness - 300%.esp

[ ] Piplight Brightness - 400%.esp

[ ] Piplight Brightness - 500%.esp

[X] BrigComp.esp

[ ] SunnyCompanion.esp

[X] DLC Weapon Integration.esp

[X] CFW-DLC.esp

[ ] CFW-PN.esp

[X] CFW-PN-DLC.esp

[X] Unique skill Magazines.esp

[X] AG Supplementary Uniques-AllInOne.esp

[X] AG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.esp

[X] MCL_Weapon_Pack.esp

[X] Gyrojet.esp

[X] UltimatelyStrongAutoShotgun.esp

[X] Karabiner98k.esp

[X] ASG.esp

[X] Jmod Bullpup Pack.esp

[ ] Minimissilelauncher.esp

[ ] MosinNagant.esp

[ ] M14.esp

[ ] G43.esp

[X] IWS-Core-Guards.esp

[X] IWS-Core-Patrols.esp

[X] IWS-Core-Civilians.esp

[X] IWS-DM.esp

[X] IWS-HH.esp

[X] IWS-OWB.esp

[X] IWS-LR.esp

[ ] LUMENARIUMandELECTROCITY - Nevada Skies Replacer.esp

[X] LUMENARIUM - Working Sunglasses ONLY.esp

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - Inventory Sorters Compatibility Patch - ElectroCityCATEYEvalue.esp

[X] NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp

[X] NSkies URWLifiedHH.esp

[X] NSkies URWLifiedOWB.esp

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - Darker Nights.esp

[X] LUMENARIUM - Bright Clear Days.esp

[X] ILO - A World of Pain.esp

[X] ILO - Dead Money.esp

[X] ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp

[X] ILO - GS Shack.esp

[X] ILO - Honest Hearts.esp

[X] ILO - Lonesome Road.esp

[X] ILO - NSkies URWLified Patch.esp

[X] ILO - Old World Blues.esp

[X] DYNAVISION 3.esp

I'm really against the wall here. While I am more or less satisfied by the currect active mod list I would like to find a way to get a few more weapon/armor addons to work.

Edited December 30, 2013 by Guest

[ma1025]

140 is when the trouble starts because of a bug with the game engine.

 

You can use the Plugin Utility to merge similar mods (like all the ILO, Nevada Skies, IWS) together to shorten your load order.

 

Also look for updates for your mods that may include an "Ultimate Edition" that merges all plugins into one file, like WMX does now.