Low LOD models appear on-top of High LOD models when I load a new cell.

[KVachon]

Hello,

I am experiencing a problem where the low level-of-detail models that you would usually see off in the distance, are being loaded and displayed on top of the normal/high level-of-detail objects. It happens when I load a new cell. Be it via fast traveling, or simply exiting Breezehome into Whiterun. The low lod models do disappear after a few seconds, but its starting to really bug me.

Its odd, the high lod models are there and loaded just fine. I can even walk through the low LOD models and see the high ones.

Has anyone run into this before? I have tried going back to a default set of INI files, and that didnt seem to have an effect.

Any Ideas?

[Georgiegril]

Please copy/paste the text file of your BOSS log (open tthe BOSS GUI, select to have the log shown in text file format not html), and your skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini files (the ones in your mydocuments\mygames\skyrim, not the ones your steamapps\common\skyrim).

 

Enclose each of those in spoiler tags (from the pull down menu of the third icon to the left on the top toolbar).

 

Also please add if you have used any other utilities that might affect your Skyrim visuals, like a texture optimizer, and/or if you have made custom changes to your graphics processor game profile for skyrim.

[KVachon]

 

[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
uExterior Cell Buffer=72
uInterior Cell Buffer=6
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=512
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=512
bAllowScreenshot=1
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti"
iTexMipMapSkip=0
bFXAAEnabled=0
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=1010.0000
fLightLODStartFade=2345.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000.0000
iShadowMapResolution=2048
fShadowBiasScale=0.2500
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fShadowDistance=4000.0000
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10
iAdapter=0
iSize W=1920
iSize H=1080
iMultiSample=8
iMaxAnisotropy=8
iPresentInterval=0
bFull Screen=0
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
fGamma=0.9600
iShadowFilter=3
iShadowMode=3
fDecalLOD2=1000.0000
fDecalLOD1=500.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
bTransparencyMultisampling=0
iWaterMultiSamples=1
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bDrawShadows=1
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
iScreenShotIndex=0
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iShadowSplitCount=2
bShadowsOnGrass=0
bDeferredShadows=1

[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassStartFadeDistance=3370.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000

[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the Warnings.txt file for more information.

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

[imagespace]
iRadialBlurLevel=1
bDoDepthOfField=1

[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultActors=6.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5000
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Decals]
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxDecals=250
uMaxSkinDecals=50
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40

[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=40000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=150000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=40000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.1000
bShowLODInEditor=0

[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0

[Launcher]
bShowAllResolutions=0
uLastAspectRatio=3
bEnableFileSelection=1

[Water]
iWaterReflectHeight=512
iWaterReflectWidth=512
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1

[MAIN]
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=0.6000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1

[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2

[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=1
bGeneralSubtitles=1
bShowCompass=1
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

[Controls]
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0480
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.9000
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
bUseKinect=0

[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=0.5500
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=0.1500
uID3=466532
fVal2=0.8000
uID2=554685
fVal1=0.8000
uID1=1007612
fVal0=1.0000
uID0=94881

[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=40

 

 

 

[General]
uGridsToLoad=5
sLanguage=ENGLISH
iNumHWThreads=3
uExterior Cell Buffer=36
uInterior Cell Buffer=6
fMasterFilePreLoadMB=100.0000
iPreloadSizeLimit=209715200
bUseThreadedMorpher=1
bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1
bUseThreadedTempEffects=1
bMultiThreadMovement=1
bDisableAllGore=0
bTrackAllDeaths=1
bPreemptivelyUnloadCells=0
sIntroMovie=
sMainMenuMovieIntro=
sIntroSequence=
SLocalSavePath=TESVSGM\New 2014\

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=512
bAllowScreenshot=1
fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.0000
fSunUpdateThreshold=1.0000
bShadowsOnGrass=0
bActorSelfShadowing=0
bMTRendering=0
bForcePow2Textures=0
bForce1XShaders=0
bAllow30Shaders=1
bAllow20HairShader=1
bDoTestHDR=0
bDo30VFog=1
bDoTallGrassEffect=1
bDoTexturePass=1
bDoSpecularPass=1
bDoDiffusePass=1
bDoAmbientPass=1
bUseRefractionShader=1
bUse Shaders=1
bUseSunbeams=1
fMipBias=0.0000
bSimpleLighting=0
fDecalLifetime=30.0000
bPerPixelLighting=1

[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
bGrassPointLighting=0

[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the Warnings.txt file for more information.

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
bDismemberOneLimb=0
bForceNPCsUseAmmo=1
f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.2
f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.5
f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.2
f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.5

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0
iMaxMemoryPageSize=128
iMinMemoryPageSize=128
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1073741824

[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=1

[interface]
rUIMistMenu_AmbientZPosRGB=255,255,255
rUIMistMenu_AmbientZNegRGB=255,255,255
rUIMistMenu_AmbientYPosRGB=255,255,255
rUIMistMenu_AmbientYNegRGB=255,255,255
rUIMistMenu_AmbientXPosRGB=255,255,255
rUIMistMenu_AmbientXNegRGB=255,255,255

[Trees]
bForceFullDetail=0
bEnableTreeAnimations=1

[TerrainManager]
bKeepLowDetailTerrain=0
bDisplayCloudLOD=1

[Controls]
bMouseAcceleration=0

[HAVOK]
iNumThreads=1

[saveGame]
bAllowProfileTransfer=1
bUseSaveGameHistory=1

[Animation]
bMultiThreadBoneUpdate=1

[backgroundLoad]
bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1
bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1

[Decals]
bDecalMultithreaded=1
bForceAllDecals=1

[imagespace]
bDoRadialBlur=1

[budgetCaps]
uActorMemoryBudgetCap=10485760
uLoadedAreaNonActorMemoryBudgetCap=185597952
uWaterMemoryInterior=10485760
uTextureMemoryInterior=10485760
uGeometryMemoryInterior=10485760
uWaterMemory=5242880
uTextureMemory=10485760
uGeometryMemory=5242880

 

[Georgiegril]

1. You need to take care of all of those messages in your BOSS log. You have a ton of unsorted mods. These must be properly placed in the load order. Mod authors usually provide information about proper load order on their mod page. You can also use TES5Edit to do this. YOu will also need to use TED5Edit to clean the DLCs and any other mod flagged by BOSS for cleaning.

 

2. You have lot of mods that are disabled. Disabling mods does not remove their influence from the game, in many cases. I would go through and re-read the mod authors instructions for proper removal of mods you are no longer using. It may be that some mods cannot be completely uninstalled without starting a new game. However, leaving them disabled in your list is going to produce similar problems.

 

After that, I would look at your prefs ini changes, particularly those that alter the default LOD settings and the threaded memory, and the ForcAllDecals

Most particularly, you have conflicting settings in your .ini files for exterior cell buffer.

prefs ini has

uExterior Cell Buffer=72

ini has

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

 

The correct value for your ugrids is

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

[KVachon]

Thank you GorgieGril,

 

I will start with the INI files first. I did not realize there were settings that can be defined in two places. Seems odd. I'll see how it turns out.

 

As for the mod order. Yeah, its a mess...

[KVachon]

INI Changes did nothing. Dont feel like cleaning 100 mods. Deleted installation and My Games/Skyrim. Thanks anyhoo