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Hey guys. I decided to pick Skyrim up again after watching a few youtube vids. But I just can't play without mods. Now, admittedly, I probably go overboard with the amount I use, but the game runs smoothly... When I get to actually play it. The hardest part is trying to figure out what mod is causing the problems, cause nothing is constant. Sometimes running through a field will cause a CTD. Sometimes the game will just freeze up in the middle of a dungeon, like its trying to load, but never finishes. Whiterun seems to cause the most problems, but again, its never a constant place it'll ctd on me. As soon as I figure out how to use the tag to post my BOSS mod list thing, I'll do that for you. I know I have a few "Dirty edits" in there. I was also wondering if maybe its too many hi rez texture things? Though when the game actually runs, its smooth and runs just fine, so I'm pretty sure my pc can handle it...

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Hah, Figured it out. There's also 2 unrecognized ones, but there's no problems with them.

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  • Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp Version v1 Active

Also a few computer stats:

 

Windows 7 x64

8gb ram

AMD Phenom 2 x4 820 processor 2.80 GHz

ATI Radeon HD 4800 series

 

 

 

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  • HearthFires.esm Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
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  • When Vampires Attack.esp Version 1.1.1 Active
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  • Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
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  • Convenient Horses.esp Version 14950 Active
    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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  • SoS - The Dungeons.esp Version 1.23 Active
    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
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    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
    • Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
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    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
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    • Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.
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    • Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.
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    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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  • Nature of the beast.esp Active
    • Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.
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    • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
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    • Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
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I cleaned all the files up, and am not running any HD texture packs, and I still get the crashes. Still looking for help here.

Post a new BOSS log.....

 

Also i noticed this...>>>Nature of the beast.esp Active

Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version. if you have then this is just a BOSS thing.
Also..
Note: See also AOS compatibility patches page on Nexus. <<<have you gone to that page to see if it has any patches you need?
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Random ctd's and endless load screens are caused by Skyrim's memory management and have nothing to do with mods. Try SSME. I've logged nearly 200 hours of ctd free play time since installing it.

Also, BOSS doesn't sort everything correctly, in fact, I've stopped using it for that reason.

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Random ctd's and endless load screens are caused by Skyrim's memory management and have nothing to do with mods. Try SSME. I've logged nearly 200 hours of ctd free play time since installing it.

Also, BOSS doesn't sort everything correctly, in fact, I've stopped using it for that reason.

I'll give this a shot. Thank you.

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Random ctd's and endless load screens are caused by Skyrim's memory management and have nothing to do with mods. Try SSME. I've logged nearly 200 hours of ctd free play time since installing it.

Also, BOSS doesn't sort everything correctly, in fact, I've stopped using it for that reason.

CTDs are caused by many different things, including poorly done mods. Issues related to memory constitute only a tiny number of possible causes to game instability. The 'memory patch' will only address ILS and CTDs if they are related to memory usage, not anything else.

 

There is nothing wrong with BOSS, which provides a template load order for heavily modded setups. It's a tool intended to facilitate the management of large load orders and users should not be advised to stop using it.

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I'm still getting CTD's, but far less now. I'll post a new BOSS log, perhaps you can toss me some more ideas!

 

Note: Now the game isn't even starting... after the Bethesda load, when it goes to the load game screen, it just ctd's.

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

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    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
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    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
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  • Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
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    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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  • Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp Active
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    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
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    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
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    • Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
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  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Version 3.1 Active
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    • Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
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    • Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul
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    • Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.
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    • Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.
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  • Better Vampires.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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  • Nature of the beast.esp Active
    • Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.
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    • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
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    • Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
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  • WATER DG.esp Version 1.87 Active
  • WATER DB.esp Version 1.87 Active

 

 

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CTD at the game logo screen is usually a mod dependency issue. It's likely that one (or more) plugin in your load order is missing a master. You can use Wrye Bash to see or alternatively load all of your plugins in TES5Edit. If TES5Edit stops loading and bounces an error message, then the plugin that halts the loading and causes the error is the one that is missing a master.

 

And there is this:

 

 


 

 

  • Nature of the beast.esp Active
    • Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.

 

 

 

Double check the BOSS log and make sure all the error messages are addressed.

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