tigron321 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hey guys. I decided to pick Skyrim up again after watching a few youtube vids. But I just can't play without mods. Now, admittedly, I probably go overboard with the amount I use, but the game runs smoothly... When I get to actually play it. The hardest part is trying to figure out what mod is causing the problems, cause nothing is constant. Sometimes running through a field will cause a CTD. Sometimes the game will just freeze up in the middle of a dungeon, like its trying to load, but never finishes. Whiterun seems to cause the most problems, but again, its never a constant place it'll ctd on me. As soon as I figure out how to use the tag to post my BOSS mod list thing, I'll do that for you. I know I have a few "Dirty edits" in there. I was also wondering if maybe its too many hi rez texture things? Though when the game actually runs, its smooth and runs just fine, so I'm pretty sure my pc can handle it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigron321 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Hah, Figured it out. There's also 2 unrecognized ones, but there's no problems with them. RND_AnimalLoot.esp ActiveRebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp Version v1 ActiveAlso a few computer stats: Windows 7 x648gb ramAMD Phenom 2 x4 820 processor 2.80 GHzATI Radeon HD 4800 series Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Falskaar.esm Version 1.1.2 ActiveWyrmstooth.esp Version 1.10 ActiveApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 ActiveJSwords.esm Version 1.4 ActiveSPERG.esm ActiveXvision Children.esm ActiveXvision Children - Complete.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveAOS.esp ActiveNote: See also AOS compatibility patches page on Nexus.Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveAOS_ICS Patch.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp ActiveAspects_and_Auras.esp ActiveHunterborn.esp ActiveHunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveHunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp ActiveImmersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Immersive Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Version v6.5.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Version v6.5.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Tytanis.esp Version 1.02 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}WetandCold.esp Version 1.402 ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.JSwords_Load_Screens.esp Version 1.4 ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SkyUI.esp Version 4.1 ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp Version 2.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Version 2.3 ActiveHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Version 7.1 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Version 1.4 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}LPotD Armor.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning Guide)LpotDHorse.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning Guide)Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp Version 1.5 ActiveEquipping Overhaul.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}buildablehouse.esp ActiveOBIS.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}OBISDB.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Run For Your Lives.esp Version 1.2.4 ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Version 1.1.1 ActiveFalskaarDawnguard.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Rebirth Monster.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp Version 14950 ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveAOS_EBT Patch.esp ActiveDrinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp ActiveOpen Cities Skyrim.esp Version 1.0.3 ActiveSoS - The Dungeons.esp Version 1.23 ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - The Wilds.esp Version 1.13 ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.SoS - Civilization.esp Version 1.02 ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Version 3.1 ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Version 3.1 ActiveAOS_COT-DG Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp Version 3.1 ActiveAOS_SoS-Wilds Patch.esp ActiveSoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.AOS_SoS-Civ Patch.esp ActiveSoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Requires: RND_Water-Patch.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveRND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp ActiveHunterborn_RND-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Better Vampires.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveNature of the beast.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Version 1.6.3 ActiveDeadlyCombat.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Version 1.8 ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.SPERG.esp ActiveSPERG-DG.esp ActiveSPERG-DB.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Version 1.2j ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.CerwidenCompanion.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Version 2.3.5 ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.WATER.esp Version 1.87 ActiveWATER Plants.esp Version 1.87 ActiveWATER DG.esp Version 1.87 ActiveWATER DB Waves.esp Version 1.87 ActiveWATER Falskaar.esp Version 1.87 ActiveAOS_WetandCold Patch.esp Active Edited March 31, 2014 by tigron321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigron321 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 I cleaned all the files up, and am not running any HD texture packs, and I still get the crashes. Still looking for help here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro_69_327 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I cleaned all the files up, and am not running any HD texture packs, and I still get the crashes. Still looking for help here. Post a new BOSS log..... Also i noticed this...>>>Nature of the beast.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version. if you have then this is just a BOSS thing. Also..Note: See also AOS compatibility patches page on Nexus. <<<have you gone to that page to see if it has any patches you need? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logsdonkenneth Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Random ctd's and endless load screens are caused by Skyrim's memory management and have nothing to do with mods. Try SSME. I've logged nearly 200 hours of ctd free play time since installing it.Also, BOSS doesn't sort everything correctly, in fact, I've stopped using it for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 You can only stop using BOSS when you know enough. Personally I just had it use my own user rules for manual placing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigron321 Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Random ctd's and endless load screens are caused by Skyrim's memory management and have nothing to do with mods. Try SSME. I've logged nearly 200 hours of ctd free play time since installing it.Also, BOSS doesn't sort everything correctly, in fact, I've stopped using it for that reason.I'll give this a shot. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Random ctd's and endless load screens are caused by Skyrim's memory management and have nothing to do with mods. Try SSME. I've logged nearly 200 hours of ctd free play time since installing it.Also, BOSS doesn't sort everything correctly, in fact, I've stopped using it for that reason.CTDs are caused by many different things, including poorly done mods. Issues related to memory constitute only a tiny number of possible causes to game instability. The 'memory patch' will only address ILS and CTDs if they are related to memory usage, not anything else. There is nothing wrong with BOSS, which provides a template load order for heavily modded setups. It's a tool intended to facilitate the management of large load orders and users should not be advised to stop using it. Edited April 2, 2014 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigron321 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 I'm still getting CTD's, but far less now. I'll post a new BOSS log, perhaps you can toss me some more ideas! Note: Now the game isn't even starting... after the Bethesda load, when it goes to the load game screen, it just ctd's. These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Falskaar.esm Version 1.1.2 ActiveWyrmstooth.esp Version 1.10 ActiveApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 ActiveJSwords.esm Version 1.4 ActiveSPERG.esm ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp ActiveAspects_and_Auras.esp ActiveHunterborn.esp ActiveHunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveHunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp ActiveImmersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Immersive Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Version v6.5.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Version v6.5.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}WetandCold.esp Version 1.402 ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp Version 1.07 ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveFootprints - Ash.esp ActiveJSwords_Load_Screens.esp Version 1.4 ActiveSkyUI.esp Version 4.1 ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp Version 2.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Version 2.3 ActiveHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Version 7.1 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Version 1.4 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp Version 1.5 ActiveEquipping Overhaul.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}buildablehouse.esp ActiveOBIS.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}OBISDB.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Run For Your Lives.esp Version 1.2.4 ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Version 1.1.1 ActiveUndeath.esp ActiveFalskaarDawnguard.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Rebirth Monster.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp Version 14950 ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Activexvisionchildren.esp ActiveYChildren of the Sky.esp ActiveDrinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp ActiveOpen Cities Skyrim.esp Version 1.0.3 ActiveSoS - The Dungeons.esp Version 1.23 ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - The Wilds.esp Version 1.13 ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - Civilization.esp Version 1.02 ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Version 3.1 ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Version 3.1 ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp Version 3.1 ActiveSoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Requires: RND_USKP-Patch.espRequires: RND_Water-Patch.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveRND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp ActiveBetter Vampires.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveNature of the beast.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.DeadlySpellImpacts.esp ActiveForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Version 1.6.3 ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Version 1.8 ActiveSPERG.esp ActiveSPERG-DG.esp ActiveSPERG-DB.esp ActiveEMCompViljaSkyrim.esp ActiveEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Version 1.2j ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.CerwidenCompanion.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Version 2.3.5 ActiveDeadlyMutilation.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp ActiveWATER.esp Version 1.87 ActiveWATER DG.esp Version 1.87 ActiveWATER DB.esp Version 1.87 Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 CTD at the game logo screen is usually a mod dependency issue. It's likely that one (or more) plugin in your load order is missing a master. You can use Wrye Bash to see or alternatively load all of your plugins in TES5Edit. If TES5Edit stops loading and bounces an error message, then the plugin that halts the loading and causes the error is the one that is missing a master. And there is this: Nature of the beast.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version. Double check the BOSS log and make sure all the error messages are addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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