Higgenboober Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 so i have had this problem in my game for some time and pretty much ignored it. but i think its about time it was addressed. All the guards in my game (at least in whiterun, riften and everywhere in-between) are only at level one. My character is currently at LV32 and from my knowledge they're supposed to level with my character to LV50 (in vanilla at least). I DO have a lot of mods installed, and thats probably where the problem lies. However is there a way for me to just edit the leveled list so that the guards level with my character? I dont want to have to go through all the mods one by one just to figure out why this is happening. I'll list all my mods that affect leveled list and guards that i know of if there is any obvious problem. All mods are sorted by BOSS and a bashed patch was made using wyre bash, then applied ASIS using skyproc. Mods effecting leveled list?Unofficial skyrim patches (all dlc)High Level Enemies (all dlc)Immersive Dawnguard (part of Immersive Patrols-- according to boss this is the only one affecting leveled lists (Relev). is this normal?Immersive WeaponsDeadly DragonsOBIS (and OBISDB and Bandit Patrols)Rebirth Monster (despite the name, i think this is Enemy AI Overhaul) Bashed patch and ASIS is in my list as well MODS effecting guards? supermodel skyrim (maybe)All Female Guardsno guard helmetsSPIKE (guard dialogue overhaul)feminized level lists (this doesnt have any bash tags to it, is that normal?) any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenboober Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 by the way all the guards in my game are female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro_69_327 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hi , Part answer...you asked.. Immersive Dawnguard (part of Immersive Patrols-- according to boss this is the only one affecting leveled lists (Relev). is this normal? NO...so i pulled all the mods that had Tags out of my boss log..you are missing quite a few. Update.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Delev,Names,Relev,Stats}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Delev,Relev,Stats,Names}}Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Immersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Version v6.5.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Version v6.5.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}1nivWICCloaks.esp Version 2.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Version 7 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}DeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}RND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}NonEssentialChildren.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} You can add the tags manually if BOSS is not doing it for you,...Bottom right of Bash you can click and select tags for each MOD.I checked the BOSS "masterlist" and the Feminzed levellist " is in there, but it does not have TAGS. you could try adding a tag and see what Wrye does with it? A couple Questions...1) Are you using the Standalone version or Python version of Wrye. ( recommend Standalone)2) Which BOSS...2.1 , 2.2 or LOOT ( i use 2.2 as i cant edit the 'masterlist" in LOOT to place mods how i want them).3) Have you checked the "All Female guards" forum to see if anyone else has this issue?4) is Wrye not showing tags in the description field for each mod that had them as default? for instance...click on the "Unofficial Skyrim Patch" (highlight it) now look to the Right side you should see this in the Description field....They should appear just below that in the TAGS box. If not you can add them. Wrye's Boxes can get all shrunk up, mouse around and find where it turns into an arrow ,move the bars to see more. :smile: Unofficial Skyrim PatchA comprehensive bugfixing mod for The Elder Scrolls V: SkyrimVersion: 2.0.3 Requires Skyrim patch 1.9.32.0.8 or greater.{{BASH:Delev,Names,Relev,Stats}}<<<<<Built in bash tags! Post a BOSS log anyway, after running BOSS select the entire page Recognized and UNrecognized > copy> paste here in Spoiler tags please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenboober Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 every mod i listed in the leveled list have bash tags on them-- i just meant that immersive dawnguard was the only one from the immersive patrols set that has bash tags on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenboober Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Using BOSS 2.2 and wyre bash standalone here is my copy paste boss thinger Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.3 ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.1 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}ApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 ActiveApachiiHairFemales.esm Version 1.3 ActiveObl-VB hair.esm ActiveSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ActiveAP Skyrim.esm ActiveBBLuxurySuite.esm ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Brishome.esm ActiveCinderFrost.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 ActiveEASamhairE_1_1.esm ActiveEAShanyaE_1_2.esm ActiveEvil Lair of Hydra.esm ActiveOBlHairFinal.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveIceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp ActiveAllFemaleGuards.esp ActiveAMatterOfTime.esp Version 2.00 Activeamazones3.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveBLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp ActiveCatsofskyrim.esp ActiveDogsofskyrim.esp ActiveDungeonQuestAwareness.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Immersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Immersive Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveMoss Rocks.esp ActivePopulated Forts Towers Places.esp ActivePopulated Lands Roads Paths.esp ActivePopulated Skyrim Civil War.esp Activetwo_handed_rebalance.esp ActiveVictoriaG_Load_Screens_Fullscreen.esp ActiveItem Sorting by Saige.esp ActiveItem Sorting DG by Saige.esp ActiveItem Sorting HF by Saige.esp ActiveItem Sorting DB by Saige.esp ActiveDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp ActiveNote: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.SkyTweak.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp Version 4.1 ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveBerserk Black Swordsman Armor.esp Version 1.0 ActiveNote: Use only one Berserk Black Swordsman Armor esp.Bikini Clothes.esp ActiveRequires: CBBECloaks - Player Only.esp ActiveCloaks - Player Only - Dawnguard.esp ActiveDarklilith.esp Activedragonslayer.esp ActiveGolden_Age_Arc_Sword.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}SupermodelSkyrim.esp ActiveSupermodelDawnguard.esp ActiveLayerBikini.esp ActiveMasamune.esp ActiveMashupUNP.esp ActiveNewmillerCasualBikiniUNP2.esp ActiveNote: Be sure this is the correct version of this esp for whichever body type you have installed. The esp name is NOT different for each body type.Requires: DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE or UNP Blessed Body (UNPB).NewmillerPiercings2.esp ActiveNewmillerPiercings3.esp ActiveNewmillerShoesUNP.esp ActiveNote: Be sure this is the correct version of this esp for whichever body type you have installed. The esp name is NOT different for each body type.Requires: DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE or UNP Blessed Body (UNPB).Osare HotPants.esp ActiveOsare Underwear.esp ActiveSexyBikinis.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp ActiveERSO 30.1 - Better Expert Level.esp ActiveBBLuxurySuiteExt.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.BBLSapachii.esp ActiveBBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.BBLSspouse.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.BBLSVisitors.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.BrishomeEXT.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveMy Home Is Your Home.esp Version 1.21 ActiveOBIS.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}OBISDB.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}OBIS ApachiiSkyHair.esp ActiveBandit Patrols.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}ToQasmoke.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp Version 1.2.4 ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Version 1.1.1 ActiveSweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp ActiveRequires: CBBEAchieveThat.esp Version 3.2.1 ActiveArrowInTheEverywhere_High_Longer.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp ActiveBlockSparkles.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Headtracking.esp ActiveHelmetToggle2.02b.esp ActiveKillable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp ActiveNakedComments.esp Activenoguardhelmets.esp ActiveRebirth Monster.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp Version 14950 ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveUnreadBooksGlow.esp Version 2.1.0 ActiveBetter Stealth AI for Followers.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp ActiveDuel - Combat Realism.esp ActiveCombatDramaOverhaul.esp ActiveDragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Version 1.8 ActiveNo Skill Limit.esp ActiveABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp ActiveABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp ActiveABT - Progressive Damage (Vanilla).esp ActiveABT - Recover 25% Less Arrows and Bolts.esp ActiveABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.esp ActiveLycHairstyler.esp ActiveN_43 Hair Pack.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveBri.esp ActiveEASamhairE_1_1.esp ActiveErynielElfV2.esp ActiveLilium_Companion.esp ActiveA Sexy Aela The Huntres Replacer v 1.esp ActiveAlexina.esp Version 21038 ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Amame_follower.esp ActiveAmanda.esp ActiveAsharaErinFollower.esp ActiveAshe.esp ActiveChaconne.esp ActiveChristina.esp ActiveCinderFrost.esp ActiveClaire.esp ActiveCompanion_Milla.esp ActiveCompanion_Monica.esp ActiveCompanion_Ria.esp ActiveDelphine.esp ActiveEAShanyaE_1_2.esp ActiveElisaBrea.esp ActiveEurydice.esp ActiveFFImperials.esp ActiveFFBretons.esp ActiveFFNords.esp ActiveJenna.esp.esp ActiveJessicaAlbaDemonHunter.esp ActiveJuliette.esp ActiveKawaii followers.esp ActiveKhaleesiStandalone.esp ActiveLC2013.esp ActiveLunariWarriors.esp ActiveLyla.esp Activemayatola UFF.esp ActiveMichelle.esp ActiveMisha.esp ActiveMjollReplacer_What.esp ActiveMyTypeAeliaV4Style1.esp ActiveMyTypeCynthiaV4Style2.esp ActiveMyTypeLydiaV4Style2.esp ActivesneBrunhilde.esp ActiveSNMorannon.esp ActiveSNSonya.esp ActiveSonya.esp ActiveStella.esp Version 21038 ActiveEMCompViljaSkyrim.esp ActiveEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp ActiveHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp ActiveSpousetocustomhome.esp ActiveFeminizedLevelLists.esp ActiveDLC1FLL.esp ActiveDLC2FLL.esp ActiveMIDFollowMeEvenCloser.esp Version 1.02 ActiveAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp ActiveAtlas Map Markers.esp Version 1.64 ActiveAtlas Blackreach.esp Version 1.0 ActiveAtlas Dawnguard.esp Version 1.23 ActiveAtlas Hearthfire.esp Version 1.0 ActiveAtlas Dragonborn.esp Version 1.0 ActiveAtlas Compass Tweaks.esp Version 1.0 ActiveBarenziahQuestMarkers.esp ActiveEnhanced_Mighty_Mudcrabs.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp Version 10/04/2014 23:56:42 ActiveASIS-Dependency.esp ActiveASIS.esp ActiveEveryBody's Different.esp Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenboober Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) You know what, i took your advice and checked the forum for all female guards and indeed there were some problems of people having all their guards at level one. HOW did you know that?! http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showtopic=633570 i stopped using your mod, v2.0, after i saw the dirty edits being made to the guards leveled lists. Before the guards were set to be level 20 and to scale with the player, and also had a correct skill template (which skills they improve). With your mod, most guards are stuck at level 1 and never level up which makes guards weaker than a bandit, and they use a different skill template. Other than that, there were different guard types in the leveled lists, like guard commander, which dissapeared now. I guess i will have to delete your mod, and manually recreate something similar and just make a simple change from male to female, without altering the leveled lists. I installed it because the guards had weakened. CK tools to meticulously set up to resolve the problem but seems to be embarrassed. In particular, the level of all the guards are fixed to 1. Updated, corrected version you have a plan? Love the mod. only problem is that all the guards are so squishy now. I can kill them at level 1.... So i guess the solution is to remove the mod and deal with female AND male guards :/ I will test it out later tonight Edited April 21, 2014 by Higgenboober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgenboober Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I removed all female guards mod from my list and now the guards are my level. thanks for the help! although if anyone can help me make the guards female i would really appreciate it. is it hard to do it in the ck? EDIT: After i removed the all female guards mod, i now have headless naked guards in Riften! and they dont really animate, just sort of glide. what happened? gahhhh EDIT EDIT: okay i killed all the creepy naked headless floating guards and waited ten more days for cells to reset again. seemed to have fixed the problem. THIS GAME IS WEIRD Edited April 21, 2014 by Higgenboober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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