metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Hi all, I have strange a issue. I have read about skyrim stuttering, and mine is not quite like that. It is not the micro hardly noticable stutter, It is massive, a second stop, like if you would watch old movies, or would be in disco, underneath the stroboscope. It is repeating very precisely at the same time , like a rythm. It is occurring near cities,( when I get close) after load, or transition. Sometimes it wont stop, until I leave the area. Sometimes I just need to wait like 10- 15 sec and it will stop. What is really strange is when I get this "stutter" and I wait, or leave the area, and come back it is completely smooth. I can run all the way back where I got the stutter, smooth as butter. It is a bit complicated, because I have around 400 mods, amongst them: populated cities,interesting npcs,inconsistent npcs,civil war overhaul,flora overhaul, or something like thathd textures,unofficial onesalso HD lod. But... I never had problem like that before I am playing with this setup for months now.I am sure they not causing the issues.Also when it is not stuttering very smooth and fast. So clearly no performance related the issue.For example I can get stutter on my way to Markath where is 3 guard (Markath can be seen from the distance(this is when stutter starting) and on the other hand I wont get stutter in the bannered mare when I have at least 20-25 npc crowded and interacting with everything... NO mods wich alter cities, apart from Solitude, but I haven`t checked that city yet. My spec: I7 4700k procAsus hero mb8gb ram,2x R9 290X crossfire,SSD drive. As you can see I don`t think the problem would be with cpu/gpu (not enough power, memory). I am using MO, SSME SKSE 1.7, BOSS (all mods sorted by boss)on my saves savegame cleaner tool/ scapel (both) I checked my papyrus log, nothing is spamming. OF course I have some errors, but none of them spamming countionusly. Anybody have any idea what is going on? Thank you for any help you can offer:) Meta Edited May 11, 2014 by metaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhegonus Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 400 mods? guess you have combined a lot of them as the max is 255.. probably the game throwing mini tantrums now and again. run through this fab tweak guide, see if you can add anything from it that isn't currently in your game or ini settings etc: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-tweak-guide#10 also, grab the skyrim configurator from the nexus downloads, fire it up and tick every box you find that says "threaded". might also be good to add the following lines to the skyrimprefs.ini: [Papyrus]fUpdateBudgetMS=800fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000iMinMemoryPageSize=256iMaxMemoryPageSize=512iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=2457600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) 400 mods? guess you have combined a lot of them as the max is 255.. probably the game throwing mini tantrums now and again. I have 255 proper mods with esp/esms + texures and meshes, replacers without esps. MO says I got 446 mods active, up and running. Yeah it is sometimes crazy when I have to find out which mod is causing trouble.I just revised the inis from this guide http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/ It says I should NOT tinker with papyrus settings. Should I? I will try the configurator, I am just tinking, I manually implemented Sheson memory patch into the skse loader, and now I just using SKSE 1.7 wich claims SSME is implemented in it...can that cause stuttering? Or one is override the other? The other thing is Iam thinking I got Realvision ENB wichis says in the ENB menu ingame that Vsync is enabled.Also, I edited the skyrim.ini and put iPresentInterval=1 in it.They are not conflicting? Cos you can turn them on at both places....and they are on at both places.I had a look at your guide, and I can`t see anything on the webpage just the forum discussion.Maybe just my in-work-computer what I am using now, not showing webpages properly due to the filters. Edited May 11, 2014 by metaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhegonus Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 it's just one of those generic warnings, make a back up of the ini file and if anything does occur, just swap back to the original, i always use it and never had a single issue. SKSE 1.7 is great, it has the ssme patcher thing it, well worth it, it'll override the older versions, probably a good idea to get the ugridstoload patch as well, it won't solve your issue, but make the game just that little more stable. i'm not sure in the ENB menu (i have a laptop that isn't quite powerful enough to run ens) but you need to turn vsync off/on from outside of the game as far as i remember, some people play with t off, some people play with it on, it depends on if your computer plays ball.. skyrim is known to throw fits when vsync is deactivated and you get a constant fps over 60. Yeah, probably your filters, it a 12 odd page guide with a rop down box to select the category you wish to read, well worth a read when you get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Oh yeah, My UGRID is set to 7.Some guys says I would be better with 5, cos higher UGRID settings can cause stutter and long load times.I will try to play with pap settings, so what is with Vsync then?Wich is better off or on? As I can see I don`t have any issues with fps as on ingame Realvision control panel you can set your fps limiter and I limited mine at 60 for exactly the same reason.I am just worried it is maybe enabled twice or whatever. (and maybe I don`t need at all?)So SKSE Sheson patch will be overrided by SKSE 1.7 without any issue? I wont touch it then. I just had a little read, and they say even if you have a gpu with 4GB, it can be overloaded with textures (4k, 2k).I will try to play with all of those above, but the other thing what I can think about is the High definition LOD, maybe it was too much for my poor GPUs with all of those shiny, glittery high resolution everythingies (trees, sky, grass,parallax roads, walls +ENB max settings) together... Edited May 11, 2014 by metaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Ok, I am at home finally.So..I went back to Ugrid 5. Nothing happened, same stutter.Uninstalled High definition LoD. Same stuttering. Nothing changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyacathusarullistad Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 You're running a lot of mods that add NPCs. That alone can easily cause lag. Could we see a full BOSS log? Also, altering anything under the [Papyrus] section in your .ini files is a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Thanks Hyac, Here we go one from MO: This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.+Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version+Blades Samurai Armour and Kimonos+Ritter Royal Texture Standalone DARKER+Less Powerful version+Fudou Myouou Katana and Tachi+SexLab Submit 08MAY14 2323+Japan Home Purchase English+Immersive College of Winterhold+ddAssets 275 collarFix-Sanguine devious comp patch-SDPlus20Addons-SDPlus20-Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life-SkyrimHighDefinitionLODs+Shard of Oblivion by Mika999-SexLab Approach 28V3+SexLab Attraction 3+DVA Dynamic Vampire Appearance 1.1+Better Vampire Fangs and Glowing Eyes+MoreRain Version 1.21+【Skeleton】XP32 Maximum Skeleton+ECEEv105+Enhanced Character Edit-lovergirl-race-dawnguard 1.02+Demon Form Wings-OBIS Redone-Bandit Patrols+TouringCarriages-SOS-Fixes+Apropos Beta 2014 04 24+BeeingFemale 1.54-Estrus Alternate Sounds - Tiffany-EstrusChaurus-v3.36-EstrusForSkyrimV103r1-actorEvents 2.22+SOS 0.8 LIZARD+SOS CANINE ADD ON+SOS - 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metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 and one from boss: hese plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.0a ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.0b ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. 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"Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp ActiveMighty Beasts - Vampire Lord.esp ActivePredator Vision.esp ActiveMidasSkyrim.esp ActiveColorful_Magic.esp ActiveP1FlyingRing.esp Activetentaclespawnspell.esp ActiveZigurdzDemon.esp ActiveForgottenMagic.esp Version 4.3.0 ActiveEnchanting Freedom.esp ActiveBatTravel.esp ActiveSneak Tools.esp ActiveSneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp ActiveSneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp ActiveVampirelordroyal.esp ActiveHeartBreaker.esp Version 3.02 ActiveKissEmAll.esp ActiveSexLab Cumshot.esp Version 1.5.2 Active_NewHair.esp ActiveCazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp ActiveN_43 Hair Pack.esp ActiveSGEyebrows.esp ActiveSGHairPackAIO.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Version 9 ActiveESPv1_1.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveHunterborn_RND-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SexLab RND.esp ActiveMercenariesPlus.esp ActiveApachiiHairStylesCOMBINED.esp ActiveAuroraFollower.esp ActiveBijin Warmaidens.esp ActiveBrothers.esp ActiveBW Lydia.esp ActiveChaconne.esp ActiveConan.esp ActiveDanarielStormbow.esp ActiveMjoll.esp ActivePoet.esp ActiveThorald GreyMane.esp ActiveAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActiveAFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp Version 64 ActiveSkyrim Unbound.esp ActiveCharacterMakingExtender.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. 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metaton Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Not recognised by boss: Devious Devices - Integration.esm Active BeeingFemale.esm Version 0.3.19b Active ColdharbourDaedra.esp Active DarkLordsFortress.esp Active EldersOfSkyrim.esp Active FreeHugMod.esp Active FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp Active Icecrown Citadel.esp Active Immersive NPC in the dark.esp Active mthralling.esp Version 99j Active NusbieVoices.esp Active RND_AnimalLoot.esp Active SexLab Trainers.esp Active Sexlab_Mortality.esp Active SexLabDangerousNights.esp Active Shadows - Skyrim.esp Active Skyrim Bigger-Dragons.esp Active SolitudeCapitalEdition.esp Active Tel_Nalta.esp Active TheUnderworldSet.esp Active UnrestrictedMagickaPower.esp Active SOS - Carloss32 Canine Addon.esp Active SOS - Carloss32 Lizard Addon.esp Active LoversVictim_DogsnHorses.esp Active CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp Active JapanLodge.esp Active Fudou Myouou.esp Active BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp Active Apropos.esp Active Sorry I couldn't find the spoiler button, if there is any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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