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Which king is better for orzammar.


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Harrowmount or Bhelen?  

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I have open this pool in the spoiler section, because it reavel part of ending.

 

So, who is the best king for the dwarfs?

i made two characters, and chose different orzammar king quest for each.

My favorite is Bhelen.

 

first, i have chose harrowmount, because he seem wise and nice, and he is.

but he's spineless as a king, and died quickly after the end, and nothing change for the dwarf.

Bhelen is arrogant, and become a real tyrant. but he's open minded, and the banned dwarfs have a chance to become members of the society with him.

 

 

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Personally, I thought this was one of the parts of the game where it was REALLY gray, where nothing was set in stone.

 

For the betterment of the dwarven society, Bhelen is the obvious choice when you look at the credits. And as far as I know, the only positive outcome of Harrowmont is with the Dwarf Noble origin.

 

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I am just on my second playthrough and I chose Harrowmont first. I was let down by the dwarven fate when he was king.

 

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I would choose Bhelen.

 

 

Interestingly, my Dwarf Noble is going to choose Bhelen too. She looks past her resentment of what he did to her and the rest of their family and sees:

- Keeping him off the throne only renders those sacrifices worthless.

- This is how politics work. It's not a kind and fluffy world, especially not in Orzammar.

- She has known both Bhelen and Harrowmont all her life. Harrowmont was good enough as an advisor but as a king he would be too weak. That said, Bhelen fooled everyone once, and that makes him a wildcard.

 

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On my first few play throughs I chose Harrowmont, but I was not satisfied with the Epilogue blurbs about Orzammar. I thought Bhelen would be worse, but turns out he is a visionary and the only one willing to take a stand against everything that is wrong and backward with the drawves.

 

From a purely gameplay perspective, there are several advantages to picking Bhelen:

 

1. With Bhelen you can unlock the royal estate alot quicker than you can with Harrowmont (which will have to wait until you put him on the throne). This is critical if you are doing the "Trial of the Crows" sidequest. Completing this sidequest unlocks Cesar's "special stock" and allows you to buy items like the Quiet Death recipe (a must have if you like using poisons), a Grandmaster Dwemenor rune (sorry can never spell that right, its the 10% spell resist rune), first enchanter robes and Knight commander helm. I usually do it for the poison and the rune, but I guess you can say his stock has something there for everyone.

 

2. You can support Bhelen and still do the provings, win it, and dedicate it to him. So more xp.

 

3. It provides Deep Roads access earlier, so you can take your Dog with you and have him fetch the "Duty" helment (part of the Effort Armor set) eariler in the game. And again, more opportunities for XP earlier in the game.

 

Keep in mind that if you choose the drawven origins there are going to be some compeling roleplay reasons to pick sides. As a commoner you will likely favor Bhelen, as a noble you will likely favor Harrowmont.

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Harrowmant is the altruistic choice for characters who want a good man to rule. It ultimate leads to ruin.

 

 

Bhelen isn't a good man. But Orzammar flourishes under his rule.

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Floydian at least keep a save game from before you meet either party. Try going back later and supporting Bhelen. There are some interesting revelations about the King and such. Besides I found that supporting Bhelen right up to the time you have to choose the king and then betraying him to be much, much more satisfying for my noble.
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