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Alright, so explaining my problem might take a bit of reading. So, I thank you for doing so in advance.

 

First, I started playing Skyrim on a console when it first came out. Since then, I've gotten a computer that can handle Skyrim quite nicely. It's a Windows 7 Home Premium, with the manufacturer being CyberPowerPC.

 

Rest of the Specs

 

Processor: Intel® Core i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80Hz 2.80 GHz

 

RAM: 16G

 

System Type: 64-bit Operating System

 

Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770M (Driver Version being 340.52)

 

 

So, naturally I wanted to get my save over to my PC. In short, I did just that with no problems. I then discovered mods, and soon began installing them by the boat load. Now, I only have like 99 or so. So, it isn't as much as some people, but you get the jist. Eventually, I killed my save because the game CTD when I tried to save, even with vanilla. I looked up solutions, and basically I learned that I had to re-install Skyrim completely. Again, I did just that, with no problems. Lucky for me, I copied my save from the Xbox, so it was still there for me to transfer over to the PC once again. So, now we're at today. I started up the save file after re-installing all of the mods i previously had. I then got Immersive Armors and Weapons.

I then decided to start up Helgen Reborn again. This involved traveling to Whiterun, and then going to Falkreath. This is where my problem is. After traveling through Riverwood, I keep going down the road, and then I crash. The same spot, every time. However this doesn't mean that the CTD isn't random, because before that I CTD twice on my way to Riverwood. What's different is that I can't get past this one just by reloading the save, or configuring the skyrimprefs.ini or anything to that effect.

 

My LOOT Log file is attached. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I love giving Skyrim the benefit of the doubt when it comes to fixing these things, and I still would love to play the game, but because of these CTDs, I might have to stop.

 

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The LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function.
  • Skyrim.esm
    CRC: C665FD56
  • Update.esm
    CRC: 1FDAB215
    Delev, Relev
  • Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
    CRC: 99DF914C
    Version: 2.0.6
    Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
  • Dawnguard.esm
    CRC: 7A481404
    Delev, Relev
  • Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
    CRC: 4A0B0E35
    Version: 2.0.6
    Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
  • HearthFires.esm
    CRC: F4DDC851
  • Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
    CRC: 902A972A
    Version: 2.0.6
    Names
  • Dragonborn.esm
    CRC: A46CA360
  • Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
    CRC: C4C4478C
    Version: 2.0.6
    Delev, Names, Stats
  • Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
    CRC: FE33A011
  • ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
    CRC: 918881A7
    Version: 3.1
  • WetandCold.esp
    CRC: BEAB0A2F
    Version: 1.422
  • SkyXP.esp
    CRC: CF31327E
  • SkyUI.esp
    CRC: 9330CAF7
    Version: 4.1
  • Dual Sheath Redux.esp
    CRC: 10FAFEDD
    • Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
  • BWS.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • hyrule castle1.1.esp
    CRC: C3B6793C
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    CRC: 6DEDE258
    Version: 3.1
  • argonianmercarmor.esp
    CRC: C34DF249
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
    CRC: 9FFF2A85
    Version: 3.1
  • WetandCold - Ashes.esp
    CRC: 1510365E
    Version: 1.09
  • BFSEffects.esp
    CRC: 543D56D4
    Version: 3.6
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
    CRC: 75A1B6EA
    Version: 3.1
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    CRC: DA95740E
  • Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
    CRC: 9229A0B4
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
    CRC: 35F9C306
  • FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
    CRC: 28252B44
  • iHUD.esp
    CRC: 6098B756
  • FSS-No pause between lines.esp
    CRC: 8135F074
  • ImmersiveFP.esp
    CRC: AA264FCD
  • Supreme Fog - CoT.esp
    CRC: 188ADAE
  • Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
    CRC: 3A253C5D
  • Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
    CRC: 7409094B
  • Locational Damage.esp
    CRC: E9EA2185
  • abotFiresHurt.esp
    CRC: 585F2F21
    Version: 1.09
  • Realistic Running Speed.esp
    CRC: 72CC67DA
  • RealisticRoomRental.esp
    CRC: F2A80AE6
  • hyrule castle1.0.esp
    CRC: 7601460A
  • Dovahkiin prayer.esp
    CRC: FB4E8EFB
  • ScenicCarriages.esp
    CRC: 882DD059
  • SkyRe_Main.esp
    CRC: 37F846FD
    Delev, Relev
    • Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.
    • Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
    • Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
    • Note: [Actor]
    • Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
    • Note: [Combat]
    • Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
    • Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
    • Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
    • Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
  • argonianraptor.esp
    CRC: 9CA2BCF1
  • Clanking Armor.esp
    CRC: DD039D67
  • 3DNPC.esp
    CRC: 47E0D3CA
    Version: 3.06.9
  • FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
    CRC: EBD99340
  • JemWM.esp
    CRC: D2370833
  • Helgen Reborn.esp
    CRC: 91F56C13
    Version: 105.3
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
    CRC: BE688F60
    Version: 4.0.7
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
    CRC: 95CC39A1
    Version: 4.0.7
  • Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
    CRC: AFACD2E9
    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • ADS.esp
    CRC: 73426A08
  • Immersive Weapons.esp
    CRC: E41D31D
    Delev, Relev
  • DaggerSounds4Daggers-dawnguard.esp
    CRC: 68919791
  • SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
    CRC: 65F8F450
    Relev
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
    CRC: BAEE8C7E
  • Birdsofskyrim.esp
    CRC: 37A5E020
  • skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
    CRC: B2D5D61A
    Version: 0.93
  • RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
    CRC: B74B21DA
    Delev, Relev
  • RND_USKP-Patch.esp
    CRC: FE81BA78
    Relev
  • SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
    CRC: D0C666A8
  • Waves.esp
    CRC: 1BB40087
  • Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
    CRC: 2A9F7DED
    Version: 7.1
    [object Object], [object Object]
  • SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
    CRC: 92CF529F
  • Smoking Torches.esp
    CRC: E3B82F91
    Version: 1.31
  • SplashofRain.esp
    CRC: 8906ABBC
    Version: 1.051
  • Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
    CRC: 563D4A7B
  • TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
    CRC: AAEE23BF
  • UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
    CRC: 819B9DE8
  • UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
    CRC: 4CEB4A5B
    Version: 1.2i
    • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
  • nicer-looking argonians.esp
    CRC: D819FC72
  • nicershahvee.esp
    CRC: D819FC72
  • SMIM-Merged-All.esp
    CRC: 46D0D2C0
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
    CRC: 984EE262
    Version: 4.0.7a
  • RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
    CRC: BDB38E3F
  • Immersive Patrols II.esp
    CRC: 9A64E3F9
  • Purewaters.esp
    CRC: 193690EE
    Version: 4.6
  • RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
    CRC: 5CE7FD7A
  • RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    CRC: A554A56D
  • RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
    CRC: 72A698CB
  • SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
    CRC: 196309D3
  • Chesko_Frostfall.esp
    CRC: E3704311
  • TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp
    CRC: 2FE4AE68
  • RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
    CRC: E3E62E4
  • SkyRe_Races.esp
    CRC: D6CF6BEE
  • RND_AnimalLoot.esp
    CRC: FE916A6E
  • SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
    CRC: 3F9BD9D
  • DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
    CRC: 143CDB7
  • dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
    CRC: BD9E96A1
  • Gifts Of The Outsider.esp
    CRC: 6F09A220
  • Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
    CRC: 4286A111
  • portal2mod.esp
    CRC: 6FE81988
  • SkyRe_Combat.esp
    CRC: 8CBB3E24
  • dovahkiinrelax.esp
    CRC: CCD13DD
  • UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
    CRC: D34DD9EC
  • Epic Male Argonian Shouting.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
    CRC: 6F9D1F37
  • vImmersiveBeds.esp
    CRC: 1162FF74
    Version: 1.01
  • Open Cities Skyrim.esp
    CRC: 7573F07E
    Version: 1.0.9
  • Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
    CRC: A398D40D
    Version: 2.5.1a
  • ReProccer.esp
    CRC: 73F851F3
Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.0 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 17b834c0e Masterlist Date 2014-08-28
Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 100 Dirty Plugins 0 Total Plugins 100 Warnings 0 Errors 0 Total Messages 16
General Messages
Hide Version Numbers
Hide CRCs
Hide Bash Tag Suggestions
Hide Notes
Hide 'Do Not Clean' Messages
Hide Inactive Plugin Messages
Hide All Plugin Messages
Hide Messageless Plugins
Plugins hidden: 0 / 100
Messages hidden: 0 / 16

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Have you even tried a new Game? That save could be the issue, it could be the Mods. Have you tried LOOT , to sort your load order. As BOSS is getting no more updates and LOOT sorts better.

 

Post the LOOT log in Spoiler tags. (not as a download) most wont download random files off the internet.

 

Asking for help.

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I have tried starting a new game, but because the game CTD after I used Alt-Tab, I stopped playing for the day (since it was the sixth time it's happened). Before I made this thread, I did read up on the Asking for help thread, but my apologies for forgetting the detail. I have used both BOSS and LOOT when organizing mods, and both give me no errors when I use them. So, I do not believe that it's because of mod conflicts that this is happening. I will be trying a new game later today, but I would like to find a way to save my well... save.

 

 

Summary

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The LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function.
  • Skyrim.esm
    CRC: C665FD56
  • Update.esm
    CRC: 1FDAB215
    Delev, Relev
  • Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
    CRC: 99DF914C
    Version: 2.0.6
    Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
  • Dawnguard.esm
    CRC: 7A481404
    Delev, Relev
  • Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
    CRC: 4A0B0E35
    Version: 2.0.6
    Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
  • HearthFires.esm
    CRC: F4DDC851
  • Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
    CRC: 902A972A
    Version: 2.0.6
    Names
  • Dragonborn.esm
    CRC: A46CA360
  • Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
    CRC: C4C4478C
    Version: 2.0.6
    Delev, Names, Stats
  • Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
    CRC: FE33A011
  • ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
    CRC: 918881A7
    Version: 3.1
  • WetandCold.esp
    CRC: BEAB0A2F
    Version: 1.422
  • SkyXP.esp
    CRC: CF31327E
  • SkyUI.esp
    CRC: 9330CAF7
    Version: 4.1
  • Dual Sheath Redux.esp
    CRC: 10FAFEDD
    • Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
  • BWS.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • hyrule castle1.1.esp
    CRC: C3B6793C
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    CRC: 6DEDE258
    Version: 3.1
  • argonianmercarmor.esp
    CRC: C34DF249
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
    CRC: 9FFF2A85
    Version: 3.1
  • WetandCold - Ashes.esp
    CRC: 1510365E
    Version: 1.09
  • BFSEffects.esp
    CRC: 543D56D4
    Version: 3.6
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
    CRC: 75A1B6EA
    Version: 3.1
  • ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    CRC: DA95740E
  • Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
    CRC: 9229A0B4
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
    CRC: 35F9C306
  • FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
    CRC: 28252B44
  • iHUD.esp
    CRC: 6098B756
  • FSS-No pause between lines.esp
    CRC: 8135F074
  • ImmersiveFP.esp
    CRC: AA264FCD
  • Supreme Fog - CoT.esp
    CRC: 188ADAE
  • Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
    CRC: 3A253C5D
  • Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
    CRC: 7409094B
  • Locational Damage.esp
    CRC: E9EA2185
  • abotFiresHurt.esp
    CRC: 585F2F21
    Version: 1.09
  • Realistic Running Speed.esp
    CRC: 72CC67DA
  • RealisticRoomRental.esp
    CRC: F2A80AE6
  • hyrule castle1.0.esp
    CRC: 7601460A
  • Dovahkiin prayer.esp
    CRC: FB4E8EFB
  • ScenicCarriages.esp
    CRC: 882DD059
  • SkyRe_Main.esp
    CRC: 37F846FD
    Delev, Relev
    • Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.
    • Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
    • Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
    • Note: [Actor]
    • Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
    • Note: [Combat]
    • Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
    • Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
    • Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
    • Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
  • argonianraptor.esp
    CRC: 9CA2BCF1
  • Clanking Armor.esp
    CRC: DD039D67
  • 3DNPC.esp
    CRC: 47E0D3CA
    Version: 3.06.9
  • FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
    CRC: EBD99340
  • JemWM.esp
    CRC: D2370833
  • Helgen Reborn.esp
    CRC: 91F56C13
    Version: 105.3
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
    CRC: BE688F60
    Version: 4.0.7
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
    CRC: 95CC39A1
    Version: 4.0.7
  • Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
    CRC: AFACD2E9
    • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • ADS.esp
    CRC: 73426A08
  • Immersive Weapons.esp
    CRC: E41D31D
    Delev, Relev
  • DaggerSounds4Daggers-dawnguard.esp
    CRC: 68919791
  • SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
    CRC: 65F8F450
    Relev
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
    CRC: BAEE8C7E
  • Birdsofskyrim.esp
    CRC: 37A5E020
  • skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
    CRC: B2D5D61A
    Version: 0.93
  • RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
    CRC: B74B21DA
    Delev, Relev
  • RND_USKP-Patch.esp
    CRC: FE81BA78
    Relev
  • SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
    CRC: D0C666A8
  • Waves.esp
    CRC: 1BB40087
  • Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
    CRC: 2A9F7DED
    Version: 7.1
    [object Object], [object Object]
  • SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
    CRC: 92CF529F
  • Smoking Torches.esp
    CRC: E3B82F91
    Version: 1.31
  • SplashofRain.esp
    CRC: 8906ABBC
    Version: 1.051
  • Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
    CRC: 563D4A7B
  • TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
    CRC: AAEE23BF
  • UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
    CRC: 819B9DE8
  • UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
    CRC: 4CEB4A5B
    Version: 1.2i
    • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
  • nicer-looking argonians.esp
    CRC: D819FC72
  • nicershahvee.esp
    CRC: D819FC72
  • SMIM-Merged-All.esp
    CRC: 46D0D2C0
  • Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
    CRC: 984EE262
    Version: 4.0.7a
  • RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
    CRC: BDB38E3F
  • Immersive Patrols II.esp
    CRC: 9A64E3F9
  • Purewaters.esp
    CRC: 193690EE
    Version: 4.6
  • RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
    CRC: 5CE7FD7A
  • RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    CRC: A554A56D
  • RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
    CRC: 72A698CB
  • SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
    CRC: 196309D3
  • Chesko_Frostfall.esp
    CRC: E3704311
  • TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp
    CRC: 2FE4AE68
  • RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
    CRC: E3E62E4
  • SkyRe_Races.esp
    CRC: D6CF6BEE
  • RND_AnimalLoot.esp
    CRC: FE916A6E
  • SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
    CRC: 3F9BD9D
  • DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
    CRC: 143CDB7
  • dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
    CRC: BD9E96A1
  • Gifts Of The Outsider.esp
    CRC: 6F09A220
  • Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
    CRC: 4286A111
  • portal2mod.esp
    CRC: 6FE81988
  • SkyRe_Combat.esp
    CRC: 8CBB3E24
  • dovahkiinrelax.esp
    CRC: CCD13DD
  • UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
    CRC: D34DD9EC
  • Epic Male Argonian Shouting.esp
    CRC: D596F02A
  • UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
    CRC: 6F9D1F37
  • vImmersiveBeds.esp
    CRC: 1162FF74
    Version: 1.01
  • Open Cities Skyrim.esp
    CRC: 7573F07E
    Version: 1.0.9
  • Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
    CRC: A398D40D
    Version: 2.5.1a
  • ReProccer.esp
    CRC: 73F851F3
Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.0 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 17b834c0e Masterlist Date 2014-08-28
Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 100 Dirty Plugins 0 Total Plugins 100 Warnings 0 Errors 0 Total Messages 16
General Messages
Hide Version Numbers
Hide CRCs
Hide Bash Tag Suggestions
Hide Notes
Hide 'Do Not Clean' Messages
Hide Inactive Plugin Messages
Hide All Plugin Messages
Hide Messageless Plugins
Plugins hidden: 0 / 100

Messages hidden: 0 / 16

 

Edited by BangaaDragoon
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Thanks for changing to a spoiler and using loot...follow what LOOT is telling you , Dirty mods (yes even the Official DLC's) can and do cause crashes. SO not Conflicts per say , Just that mods need to be cleaned. Not all just the ones LOOT is point out.

 

For instance...

  • Update.esm
    CRC: E5B67BDA
    Delev, Relev
    • Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.

An Official plugin, besides the 92 ITM (Identical to Master) records , it also has 3 UDR (deleted references) , IF any mod in your load order were to ask for any one of those 3 references it WILL be an Instant CTD (Crash to Desktop).

 

Follow the link and get Tes5Edit , read up on the cleaning process it really is easy to do. Just remember to only select one mod at a time, Tes5Edit will load any other mods required for the cleaning.

 

The area you refer to is a place that gives a lot of people problems, think it crosses 4 borders at once in a few places. Is it where the Wolves are suppose to attack?

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Right when you posted that I was updating my LOOT list (since I noticed it asking for TES5Edit). There's no dirty mods now, and I'm going to test the save again. Should only take a few seconds to test (I saved right before I got to where it crashed). Thank you for your suggestion.

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Yes, it as you said, right when the wolves are supposed to attack. I went back to the save, and got passed the point of the usual CTD. After hearing the wolves howl, I supposed that I should take care of them as to not have an annoyance on my back. I got off Shadowmere, and CTD. I'll try a few more times, with varying paths to see if it's just that area.

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Could be a bad spawn...try going someplace else...an interior and waiting out the spawn..31 days?...for test to see if you can go back down the path.

 

I was crashing in that general area..Actually, across the way at exit to bleak falls. Used the "Reset cells" from immersive creatures MCM menu and it fixed the problem.

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So, I started a new save. To see if it really was just a bad cell. It seemed that was the case since I went around to get to Falkreath. But soon after I started the new game, I experienced sporadic CTDs. There's one thing that links these though... well maybe. One happened upon entering a building (entered, autosaved, CTD. But I still retained the save), one other happened upon opening the map, and the last was upon trying to get to my items. The similarity is mostly the last two, in which case I'm opening a new menu or GUI. Any regards in fixing these wonderful (sarcastic) CTDs would be amazing, thank you.
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