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Since the rule changes introduced on May 1st there has been some confusion about what is and isn’t acceptable within the normal Image Share section that everyone can access. This confusion is mostly down to me not coming down hard enough on exactly what is an isn’t acceptable; I failed at taking a more democratic approach in an attempt to receive less flak and it back-fired, so sorry about that. Next time I’ll just come straight out with it!


No nudity

I am going to amend the rules accordingly and apply a complete “no nudity” clause on the normal Image Share section. As a side note the Supporter Image Share section is unaffected by this change and if you use this section then you need not worry. “No nudity” includes boobs and genitalia as well as visible pubic hair in the genitalia area. Once again these rules apply from this date (28th of June) onwards. A few people have been banned recently for various offenses based on the loose rules applied at the start of May and as a show of good faith I am going to unban those accounts that were banned for uploading nudity in the Image Share section. If you haven’t been unbanned by the 29th of June then get in contact with me via the site contact forms and let me know your account username so I can explore it.

Many people are perplexed by my decision to stop these images from being uploaded for everyone to view, it’s understandable. I’ve turned a blind-eye to a lot of the content in the Image Share section since it’s very start. There’s lots of great stuff, and lots of not so great stuff. Image after image of the same characters doing the same nude poses from different angles with different lighting is my idea of the not so great stuff. I don’t care for it and quite frankly I don’t want to be hosting it on my servers. Yes, there’s an adult-only content filter (that some have just taken to mean “nude content” filter) but adult-only content is more than just nudity. It’s excessive gore, it’s risque comic-strips, it’s pictures of characters wearing the skimpiest outfits possible without breaking the rules. It’s basically everything you wouldn’t want to have your boss catching you looking through at work.

As far as nude mods go; I use them. It’s been a while since I actually played Oblivion but I enjoyed my own childish humour of stripping NPCs naked who’ve annoyed me/gotten in my way and dragging them out in the street for all to see. Hey, we all have our own little quirks, right? That doesn’t mean I get my rocks off to nude content or that I endorse graphic pictures of NPCs doing all sorts of poses and sex positions. You might like that, you might just like setting up the angles and lighting, I don’t know and I honestly don’t care. We all have our own fantasies and idiosyncrasies but it’s not my wish, desire or obligation to offer a platform for others to explore them. My wish is to run a network of sites on my own terms. A network I’m proud of and one that I can share with my family, friends and the greater community.

This is about more than just censoring stuff for minors or it all being acceptable because they are games rated "Mature" for adults. It's about what I personally am willing to host and not host in the Image Share section and this is where I have drawn the line. You might not like it, or agree with it, but this is my sentiment and my own opinion.

So what is and isn’t acceptable? To aid in better understanding the rules I’m going to use examples from the Image Share section of what is and isn’t acceptable, as well as what content should be marked as adult-only content. Pictures were selected by me and I'm not attempting to single-out anyone. Some members are very good at marking their content as adult-only and I thank them for that.


Unacceptable content

Pose not allowed due to having a see-through top

Pose not allowed for visible breasts

Another pose disallowed for having visible breasts

Disallowed pose for having visible pubic hair around the bikini bottoms. This picture would be perfectly acceptable if it didn't have the pubic hair



Acceptable with adult-only filter turned on

Border-line pose that, while showing nipples, is covered up

Gory combat shot that should be marked as adult-only as a courtesy to people browsing at work/around kids at home

Same as above

Same as above

Acceptable with adult-only content filter, but less clothing on the breasts or a shot that contained more of the lower body and it probably wouldn't be (I assume there would be hair showing)


Hopefully this should help to clear up the confusion regarding the rule changes in the Image Share section and the sort of things you should be marking as adult-only if you're an image uploader.

I would just like to add a further note to the bottom of this article and say that I'm aware of the ethical, philosophical, sociological and pyschology matters around this subject. Yes, I'm allowing violence and not nudity. I'm aware of the irony in the taboo. I took an A Level in Philosophy when I was 18 and took further psychology, sociology and philosophy modules at university and have debated the subject many times with my peers and lecturers in various capacities. I have considered all the views, both my own and as devil's advocate in making this decision.


Question - Is anything that was put up BEFORE this clarification okay, or will pictures that may violate these clarifications have to come down/be edited?

Never mind - got my answer. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't on the chopping block

Edited by DarkNinja13, 29 June 2010 - 02:11 AM.


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There is only thing i don't understand about these rulez. We all know that fallout 3 and oblivion where created for mature audiance. yet all these rulzed here are aiding minors. The rulzed should be aimed at them not even playing these games. By allowing them here in the first place, you are actually aiding them instead of banning them from this site at witch is a big mistake.

I know everone likes to play games. But some games should not even be played by minors and still this happens, and more stricter rulzes are aimed at us instead of them. By banning them from here most flames will dissapear, because we all know it mostly minors who are flameming here.

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There is only thing i don't understand about these rulez. We all know that fallout 3 and oblivion where created for mature audiance. yet all these rulzed here are aiding minors. The rulzed should be aimed at them not even playing these games. By allowing them here in the first place, you are actually aiding them instead of banning them from this site at witch is a big mistake.

I know everone likes to play games. But some games should not even be played by minors and still this happens, and more stricter rulzes are aimed at us instead of them. By banning them from here most flames will dissapear, because we all know it mostly minors who are flameming here.


That is not entirely true my friend. Yes minors are "flameming" here, but they are not the majority of the flamers, becouse adults have often proved that they are even worse sometimes and they can cause greater harm than minors. This site is for 13+ and I don't think that we should start banning all people under 18. We have many talented modders that are under the age of 18 not to mention that a great number of our members are minors as shown in this poll How old are you poll. This is certainly not a solution.

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My wish is to run a network of sites on my own terms. A network I’m proud of and one that I can share with my family, friends.

I have considered all the views, both my own and as devil's advocate in making this decision.


There's nothing more to say than that.


What do you mean? do you insinuate that DrakOne is acting selfishly? Tesnexus is supposed to be a "gaming/modding community", not a porn site ! want to see nude pics? then pay the bloody fee!


That's the reason? Your family and friends[?!] - I mean you're ashamed of some of our uploaded pictures?

There's nothing more to say than that.

Does anyone else find it kind of ironic?

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well im a minor but i was allways used to this kind off stuff why
well fortunlly irish just are :tongue:
but really never minded it because i was more or less watching before i found this modding website

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Just a suggestion if you change your mind one day Dark0ne;
The profile-setup has an adult-content option.
Why don't you add a nudity-option to the profile-settings?
Members then have to check the adult-content option and then a nudity -content option appears in their profile settings and they have to check it too.
So some people don't have a heart attack or become blind cause they see some bare boobs or completely naked women (for ladies: or men).
If they check this option, then it's their own guilt.(Don't like it - don't download it); don't like it - don't check it.

 


@UK47

A direct offence cause I've quoted Dark0ne - or with your words "DrakOne"?
Are these words not his words?

 

I've made a request for a porn-site? Really?
Let me see what I've posted since March... hmm sorry nothing about a porn-site UK47... :]].

 

I've said something about censorship.
Something hidden about operating a double standard regarding violence and nudity.

 

Believe me, there are better sites for nude scenes than TESNexus.
Cause this can spare you some trouble later on, I'll quote myself:

Believe me, there are better sites for nude scenes than TESNexus.



 

For your information: I haven't paid anything not cause of the amount of fee but the way how to pay.

 

And YES I'm very ironic.


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There is only thing i don't understand about these rulez. We all know that fallout 3 and oblivion where created for mature audiance. yet all these rulzed here are aiding minors. The rulzed should be aimed at them not even playing these games. By allowing them here in the first place, you are actually aiding them instead of banning them from this site at witch is a big mistake.

I know everone likes to play games. But some games should not even be played by minors and still this happens, and more stricter rulzes are aimed at us instead of them. By banning them from here most flames will dissapear, because we all know it mostly minors who are flameming here.

So, in short, you suggest to ban all people under 18? that's really selfish and stupid.
What about a new rulez, witch say : ban people with bad grammar/and or words deformations? "by banning them from here most flames will dissapear".

We all know that fallout 3 and oblivion where created for mature audiance.

You are wrong, Oblivion wasn't.

(Yeah I know I don't have a good/perfect grammar either)

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A direct offence cause I've quoted Dark0ne

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That's the reason? Your family and friends[?!]

You insinuate (clearly) that Dark0ne is acting selfishly, aren't you?

A direct offence

I think there is a big difference between a direct offence and a insinuation

or with your words "DrakOne"?

Yeah DrakOne! DragOne! Draky! typos, what's the matter?

Are these words not his words?

Indeed! but why did you quoted it then?

I've made a request for a porn-site? Really?

I didn't say you did :]].

Believe me, there are better sites for nude scenes than TESNexus.

Well, you are somewhat wrong, TESNexus used to be a heaven for nude scenes (from Oblivion,Fo3,etc), and, that's why these changes are most welcome.

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I feel a thread-lock coming on...

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I feel a thread-lock coming on...



yha especially when its in the news area lol




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