Murkrow900 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Hi guys. so right now I've been doing a lot of modding & I'm pretty satisfied with the end result but now when I've started playing as my dark elf destruction Mage I've gotten random ctds when loading saves that are usually in combat saves or just saves that have been loaded to quickly to many times. But I never had this with an older load-order so I was just curious if anyone here knew what could be causing it by taking a look at my load-order and say if there's anything fishy? http://pastebin.com/6waRA3i9 <------- Load-order. As stated in the title answers are immensly appreciated and please don't sit quiet and say anything even if you aren't certain you know the issue, ALL help is appreciated & I will check this post every 20 or so min. Cheers & lots of love, Murky.PS, possible payment in the form of a gift game on Steam if you help me solve the problem =]. SPECS---------Operating SystemWindows 8.1 Pro N 64-bitCPUIntel Core i5 3570K @ 3.40GHz 40 °CIvy Bridge 22nm TechnologyRAM16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 804MHz (9-9-9-24)MotherboardASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8Z77-V LX (LGA1155) 33 °CGraphicsS24B350 (1920x1080@60Hz)3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (MSI) 34 °CStorage111GB KINGSTON SV300S37A120G (SSD) 32 °C2794GB Seagate ST3000DM001-1CH166 (SATA) 40 °C Load-order-------------- GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1 JSwords.esm=0 EFFCore.esm=1 When Vampires Attack.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 TrueBrows.esp=1 Sit Anywhere.esp=1 RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp=1 RealisticNightsDG.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 TimingIsEverything.esp=1 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp=1 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 SaveHotKeyMCM.esp=1 ORM-Arvak.esp=1 HT Social NPCs.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 DeadlyDragons.esp=1 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp=1 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp=1 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 Convenient Horses.esp=1 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 Real Roads.esp=1 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp=1 Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1 Rise of the Legend - Ysgramor.esp=1 Headtracking.esp=1 AOS.esp=1 WetandCold.esp=1 WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1 Pureweather.esp=1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1 RealisticNightsDB.esp=1 3DNPC.esp=1 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp=1 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1 EFFDialogue.esp=1 Blaze Of Eventide.esp=1 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 Merged Sound Patches.esp=1 Vividian - Pure Weather Patch.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 DarkbroSanctuary.esp=1 RSChildren - Complete.esp=1 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp=1 DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1 Rebirth Monster.esp=1 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1 CWINPCImprovements.esp=1 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1 fallentreebridges.esp=1 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp=1 SeaPointSettlement.esp=1 OBIS.esp=1 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1 Unique Uniques.esp=1 OBISDB.esp=1 OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp=1 OBIS Redone.esp=1 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1 iActivate.esp=1 HarvestOverhaul.esp=1 iActivate - USKP.esp=0 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp=1 CCO_SIC_Patch.esp=1 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1 Morskom.esp=1 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 Cloaks.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1 Inigo.esp=1 Run For Your Lives.esp=1 Point The Way.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp=1 CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp=1 Better Vampires ML.esp=1 Better Vampires.esp=0 RealisticNights.esp=1 Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp=1 RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1 Atlas Legendary.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1 BosmerArmorMATY743.esp=1 NoldorArmor.esp=1 hassildor.esp=1 HothFollower.esp=1 CompanionValfar.esp=1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1 DA_Skyship.esp=1 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1 Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1 CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp=1 HolmwoodNahkin.esp=1 Serenity.esp=1 SerenitySeapointPatch.esp=1 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1 KhajiitChildren.esp=1 SerenityMorskomPatch.esp=1 PerMa_Survivalism.esp=1 CanalHome.esp=1 Archer's Armory Skyrim.esp=1 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp=1 IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=1 Sneak Tools.esp=1 IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp=1 iNeed.esp=1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1 Tundra Defense.esp=1 My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp=1 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp=1 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp=1 My Home Is Your Home.esp=1 GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp=1 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1 CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp=1 1nivWICCloaks.esp=1 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp=1 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp=1 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1 OverflowingEnchant.esp=0 conjure_chest.esp=1 Thunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1 Dwemertech - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1 My_Little_hatchling.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW Patch.esp=1 Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp=1 RealShelter.esp=1 RSPatch.esp=1 Merged Patch.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 PatchusMaximus.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcooley Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The CTD probably comes from pushing your system over the memory limit. With more mods comes more AI processing, more scripts, more textures, etc. and using either the QuickLoad or Load from the pause menu after you have already been playing won't clear out memory or completely refresh the game data. So the end result is a mix of data from before the load and from the save file, doing that repeatedly is just going to make a bigger mess of memory. If you reload a save without completely exiting and restarting the game you're playing with fire. More importantly long before you hit the CTD problem you will have created a corrupted game session which will then get stored into any future saves you make with that character. If you die or just want to reload a previous game, always quit the game completely and then restart if you want a completely stable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murkrow900 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 By quitting you mean going to the main menu & then pressing continue or?Best regards, Murk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcooley Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 By quitting you mean going to the main menu & then pressing continue or? Best regards, Murk.Yes, quit to desktop and restart the game then from the main menu you can either use Continue or Load. It's the only safe way to reload a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murkrow900 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 That sounds insanely overkill, surely just going to the main menu after dying and then pressing load would have the same effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcooley Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 No, returning to the main menu still leaves some game data loaded in memory. Returning to the main menu does seem to be better than simply loading directly from a running game, but it's still not as good as exiting all the way to the desktop. That's why it's so much faster to load a saved game from there than restarting the game. The eventual price you pay for the convenience of a fast reload is a corrupted game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murkrow900 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bump. Still crashing, new load-order. GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1RSkyrimChildren.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1JSwords.esm=0EFFCore.esm=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Sit Anywhere.esp=1TrueBrows.esp=1RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp=1Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1TimingIsEverything.esp=1ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1JaxonzMapMarkers.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1iHUD.esp=1SaveHotKeyMCM.esp=1ORM-Arvak.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp=1DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1Beards.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1Real Roads.esp=1Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1Rise of the Legend - Ysgramor.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1AOS.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1Pureweather.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=13DNPC.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1EFFDialogue.esp=1Blaze Of Eventide.esp=1Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp=1Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1Merged Sound Patches.esp=1Vividian - Pure Weather Patch.esp=1RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1UIExtensions.esp=1DarkbroSanctuary.esp=1RSChildren - Complete.esp=1RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp=1DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Rebirth Monster.esp=1ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1CWINPCImprovements.esp=1Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1fallentreebridges.esp=1Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp=1SeaPointSettlement.esp=1OBIS.esp=1aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1OBISDB.esp=1OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp=1OBIS Redone.esp=1Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1iActivate.esp=1HarvestOverhaul.esp=1iActivate - USKP.esp=0Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp=1CCO_SIC_Patch.esp=1dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1Morskom.esp=1MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp=1CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp=1Better Vampires ML.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=0Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1Atlas Legendary.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1BosmerArmorMATY743.esp=1NoldorArmor.esp=1hassildor.esp=1HothFollower.esp=1CompanionValfar.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1DA_Skyship.esp=1SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1SkyRe_Races.esp=1EEO patch.esp=1HolmwoodNahkin.esp=1Serenity.esp=1SerenitySeapointPatch.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1KhajiitChildren.esp=1SerenityMorskomPatch.esp=1PerMa_Survivalism.esp=1CanalHome.esp=1FGT.esp=1Archer's Armory Skyrim.esp=1Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp=1IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=1Sneak Tools.esp=1IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp=1iNeed.esp=1Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1Tundra Defense.esp=1Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp=1vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp=1My Home Is Your Home.esp=1GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW Patch.esp=1CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1OverflowingEnchant.esp=0conjure_chest.esp=1Thunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1Dwemertech - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1My_Little_hatchling.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp=1RealShelter.esp=1PW-RS-Patch.esp=1RSPatch.esp=1Merged Patch.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1PatchusMaximus.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boutte1 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Starta new game and load the save you want from it. Works for me every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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