valrenas Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Having a lot of trouble with my load order in Fallout 3, I ran LOOT, and have no ITM issues left, and then ran Wrye FLash, and nearly a third of the plugins have an orange checkbox, but I have no idea where to move them. Here's my current load order, if anyone can help me out. As it is, I keep crashing on the title screen. Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1StreetLights.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1Advanced Recon Tech.esm=1IMCN.esm=1iHUD.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1Ambient Temperature.esm=1Inventory Access.esm=1Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm=1Mothership Crew.esm=1TSC Expansion.esm=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1TSC Lincoln Memorial.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm=1AWorldOfPainFO3.esm=1FNNsys.esm=1Megaton Reborn.esp=1CRAFT.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1Detect Traps.esm=1TSC Air Support.esm=1TalonExtraArmor.esm=1RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1FWE - Combat Overhaul_Core.esm=1FO3 Error Fixes.esp=0Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp=1Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1Clear Cell Buffers (no message).esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1Detect Traps - DLC.esp=1Ambient Temperature HUD.esp=1Ambient Temperature - OA.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1Detect Traps - Perk.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech.esp=1Dree Perks.esp=1FNNsys - FWE.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1pinionsuite.esp=1Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp=1Fellout-Full.esp=1Fellout Brighter Nights.esp=1Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1HelmPOV.esp=1IMCN - FNNsys.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1PPA - The Pitt.esp=1Regulators.esp=1BusworldV1.05d.esp=1FWE - Combat Overhaul_Equipment.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech FWE.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1MMM - FWE_Combat Overhaul Master Release.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp=0RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp=1UPP - Experience Perks.esp=1UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1RH_FWE_Bridge.esp=1JIP Companions Command & Control.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp=1Imp's More Complex Needs.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp=1TSC Air Support.esp=1TiesThatBind.esp=1JIP CC&C - Amanda (Ties That Bind).esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1IMCN - FWE Compatibility and Ingestibles.esp=1FWE weapons pack.esp=1UPP - Beverage Perks.esp=1Fellout-Zeta.esp=1Megaton Reborn1.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1MZC-Patch-UH-Teleporter.esp=1UPP - Quest Perks.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1RH_WMK_Bridge.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1Advanced Recon Gear.esp=1Detect Traps - The Traponator 4000.esp=1Powered Power Armor.esp=1PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp=1PPA - IMCN.esp=1PPA - FWE.esp=1Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_BrokenSteel.esp=1Compatibility Plugin00 TalonCo & Marts.esp=1Compatibility Plugin01 PunisherGear & TalonCo.esp=0No Scopeless Zooming - PPA Edition.esp=1PPA - Ambient Temperature.esp=1PPA - Broken Steel.esp=1PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp=1WMKAA12Shotgun.esp=1Advanced Recon Armor.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp=1PIMP.esp=1RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp=1TSC Erebus.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1MZC Addon-Olympus Armory.esp=1MZC Addon-Olympus Armory (forecefield).esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp=1RecieveTenpennySuite.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp=1Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp=1Dree Perks Anchorage.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp=1Dree Perks Pitts.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1UPP - Original Perks.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1TSC Moon Base.esp=1MZC Addon - MZC-IMCN Patch.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1TSC Dialogues.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp=1TSC Rooms.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 From what I can see from your load order, you have a patch for Project Beauty and do not have Project Beauty. Please, go to the FO3 Wanderers Edition page and scroll down the page. There will be a sample load order you can follow. When you get your load order corrected, make sure any and all compatibility patches are loaded AFTER the last mod they are patching. Although BOSS is an older program, it works better for FO3 than LOOT. FO3 is an older game. Get BOSS here: http://boss-developers.github.io/ You do not need the following Mart's Mutant Mod plugins: Natural Selection, Tougher Traders and Zones Respawn. The are built into FWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valrenas Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Thank you. Some of those are automatically installed, but I deactivated the ones that needed project beauty, but I didn't realize about BOSS or the MMM plugins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valrenas Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 OK, BOSS didn't help much at all and Wrye Flash is still showing almost a third of my plug-ins with orange check boxes. Here are screen shots of Wrye Flash if it helps any, as well as a new load order. Please help if you can! Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1StreetLights.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1FNNsys.esm=1Inventory Access.esm=1IMCN.esm=1iHUD.esm=1TalonExtraArmor.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm=1AWorldOfPainFO3.esm=1Mothership Crew.esm=1TSC Air Support.esm=1Advanced Recon Tech.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1FWE - Combat Overhaul_Core.esm=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1Detect Traps.esm=1Ambient Temperature.esm=1TSC Lincoln Memorial.esm=1Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm=1TSC Expansion.esm=1Megaton Reborn.esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1Ambient Temperature HUD.esp=1Ambient Temperature - OA.esp=1PIMP.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp=1RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp=1RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp=1RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp=1ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1UPP - Original Perks.esp=1UPP - Experience Perks.esp=1UPP - Quest Perks.esp=1UPP - Beverage Perks.esp=1Detect Traps - The Traponator 4000.esp=1Detect Traps - Perk.esp=1Detect Traps - DLC.esp=1Dree Perks.esp=1Dree Perks Anchorage.esp=1Dree Perks Pitts.esp=1Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp=1Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp=1Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp=1Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp=1Regulators.esp=1BusworldV1.05d.esp=1Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1RH_FWE_Bridge.esp=1FWE - Combat Overhaul_Equipment.esp=1FWE weapons pack.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1WMKAA12Shotgun.esp=1Advanced Recon Armor.esp=1Advanced Recon Gear.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp=1Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp=1BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp=1Powered Power Armor.esp=1PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp=1PPA - Broken Steel.esp=1PPA - The Pitt.esp=1PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp=1PPA - FWE.esp=1PPA - Ambient Temperature.esp=1PPA - IMCN.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp=1MMM - FWE_Combat Overhaul Master Release.esp=1Imp's More Complex Needs.esp=1IMCN - FWE Compatibility and Ingestibles.esp=1MZC Addon - MZC-IMCN Patch.esp=1MZC Addon-Olympus Armory.esp=1MZC Addon-Olympus Armory (forecefield).esp=1TSC Air Support.esp=1Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1Fellout-Full.esp=1Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1Fellout-Zeta.esp=1FNNsys - FWE.esp=1Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_BrokenSteel.esp=1Compatibility Plugin00 TalonCo & Marts.esp=1Clear Cell Buffers (no message).esp=1HelmPOV.esp=1IMCN - FNNsys.esp=1pinionsuite.esp=1Fellout Brighter Nights.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech FWE.esp=1UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp=1JIP Companions Command & Control.esp=1TiesThatBind.esp=1JIP CC&C - Amanda (Ties That Bind).esp=1Megaton Reborn1.esp=1MZC-Patch-UH-Teleporter.esp=1RH_WMK_Bridge.esp=1No Scopeless Zooming - PPA Edition.esp=1TSC Erebus.esp=1RecieveTenpennySuite.esp=1TSC Moon Base.esp=1TSC Dialogues.esp=1TSC Rooms.esp=1 Wrye Flash screen 1Wrye Flash screen 2Wrye Flash screen 3Wrye Flash screen 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 145 files you are trying to load is about 15 to 20 too many. The game cannot handle that much. You are going to have to reduce your load order. You should follow the steps here: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valrenas Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 A lot of them are multiple plug-ins from the same mod, like WMK and MMM. Is there a way to merge all those plugins to make the list smaller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 A lot of them are multiple plug-ins from the same mod, like WMK and MMM. Is there a way to merge all those plugins to make the list smaller? See Paradox Ignition presents The Mergers: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/16787/? Or use FO3Edit or Wrye Bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valrenas Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Ok, cut down the amount quite a bit, but still having the same issues. I don't know how to use Wrye at all, and FO3Edit I only know how to check to see if they'll load and clean ITM and UDRs. Here's the latest load order and the Wrye Screens. Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1StreetLights.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Advanced Recon Tech.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1IMCN.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1iHUD.esm=1Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm=1FNNsys.esm=1Megaton Reborn.esp=1CRAFT.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1Detect Traps.esm=1RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1Advanced Recon Gear.esp=1Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp=1Clear Cell Buffers (no message).esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1Detect Traps - DLC.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech.esp=1Dree Perks.esp=1Detect Traps - Perk.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1FNNsys - FWE.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp=1Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1IMCN - FNNsys.esp=1pinionsuite.esp=1Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp=1Fellout-Full.esp=1Fellout Brighter Nights.esp=1Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1Regulators.esp=1BusworldV1.05d.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech FWE.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1UPP - Experience Perks.esp=1UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp=1Imp's More Complex Needs.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1JIP Companions Command & Control.esp=1TiesThatBind.esp=1JIP CC&C - Amanda (Ties That Bind).esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1Fellout-Zeta.esp=1IMCN - FWE Compatibility and Ingestibles.esp=1FWE weapons pack.esp=1UPP - Beverage Perks.esp=1Megaton Reborn1.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1UPP - Quest Perks.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1Detect Traps - The Traponator 4000.esp=1WMKAA12Shotgun.esp=1Advanced Recon Armor.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1PIMP.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1RecieveTenpennySuite.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1UPP - Original Perks.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1 Wrye Screen 1Wrye Screen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 What you posted is not a BOSS load order. Your load order must start: Fallou3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm StreetLights.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm. If you refuse to use BOSS, please go to the FO3 Wanderers Edition page and scroll down the page for a load order sample. Also, download the Fallout3 Training Manual for FO3Edit: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/8629/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valrenas Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Sorry, forgot to restart NMM after running BOSS, this is what BOSS gave me for a load order: Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1StreetLights.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1FNNsys.esm=1IMCN.esm=1iHUD.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm=1Advanced Recon Tech.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm=1Detect Traps.esm=1Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm=1Megaton Reborn.esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1PIMP.esp=1ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1UPP - Original Perks.esp=1UPP - Experience Perks.esp=1UPP - Quest Perks.esp=1UPP - Beverage Perks.esp=1Detect Traps - The Traponator 4000.esp=1Detect Traps - Perk.esp=1Detect Traps - DLC.esp=1Dree Perks.esp=1Regulators.esp=1BusworldV1.05d.esp=1Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp=1FWE weapons pack.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1WMKAA12Shotgun.esp=1Advanced Recon Armor.esp=1Advanced Recon Gear.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp=1Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp=1Imp's More Complex Needs.esp=1IMCN - FWE Compatibility and Ingestibles.esp=1Fellout-pipboylight.esp=1Fellout-Full.esp=1Fellout-Anchorage.esp=1Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp=1Fellout-PointLookout.esp=1Fellout-Zeta.esp=1FNNsys - FWE.esp=1Clear Cell Buffers (no message).esp=1IMCN - FNNsys.esp=1pinionsuite.esp=1Fellout Brighter Nights.esp=1Advanced Recon Tech FWE.esp=1UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp=1JIP Companions Command & Control.esp=1TiesThatBind.esp=1JIP CC&C - Amanda (Ties That Bind).esp=1Megaton Reborn1.esp=1RecieveTenpennySuite.esp=1 Wrye Flash Screen 1Wrye Flash Screen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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