HELP! Jowan's head is gone!

[Dimensionist]

Pretty much what it says. Started a heavily modded Human Mage DAO campaign, and every time I've encountered him, Jowan's head is simply not there. While this was amusing at first, at this point it's just plain annoying. I'm aware that it's probably because of a mod clash, but I have no idea precisely what's causing the problem.

 

Can anyone help? So far I searched my override folder for a .mor file involving Jowan that might be causing the problem, but I only found the one in Dragon Age Redesigned.

 

Also, there's one other problem - apparently, the Spellweaver sword doesn't have an icon after using the Improved Atmosphere mod. Is there any fix for it?

[theskymoves]

Did you also search for mod-added Jowan-related UTC file(s)?

 

Boring explanation: Morphs (and equipment) are assigned by a creature file. If the MOR in a UTC for an NPC isn't present, the NPC will be headless.

 

Also note that you will need to start a fresh game to see any changes.

[TheErwOo]

Interesting you mention this, I just reinstalled DAO after a year or so and loaded it with a bunch of mods, among them Dragon Age Redesigned and Improved Atmosphere.

 

I would think the culprit is Improved Atmosphere since none of my other mods edit .utc files with "jowan" in their name :/

However when I looked at IAs jowan .utc files, I couldn't see a problem, although I should mention I barely have any experience with modding DAO myself.

[Dimensionist]

Did you also search for mod-added Jowan-related UTC file(s)?

 

Boring explanation: Morphs (and equipment) are assigned by a creature file. If the MOR in a UTC for an NPC isn't present, the NPC will be headless.

 

Also note that you will need to start a fresh game to see any changes.

 

There's a mod-added Jowan-related UTC file in Improved Atmosphere (well, actually, there are several). I'm not sure if they should conflict, but either way, here are the files involving Jowan in my override folder, .utc and .mor both:

 

ran250cr_jowan_refugee_c.utc

bhm100cr_jowan.utc

ran250cr_jowan.utc

hm_bhm100_jowan.mor

bhm100cr_jowan_room_chat_1.utc

arl220cr_jowan_escort.utc

epi200cr_jowan.utc

ran250ar_forest_jowan.utc

arl210cr_jowan_corpse.utc

 

Also, how can I open utc files to check if the .mor file is there, and how do I check if the file is corrupt?

 

Interesting you mention this, I just reinstalled DAO after a year or so and loaded it with a bunch of mods, among them Dragon Age Redesigned and Improved Atmosphere.

 

I would think the culprit is Improved Atmosphere since none of my other mods edit .utc files with "jowan" in their name :/

However when I looked at IAs jowan .utc files, I couldn't see a problem, although I should mention I barely have any experience with modding DAO myself.

 

Hm. Are the .mor files there in the .utc? If they are, apparently there shouldn't be a problem.

[TheErwOo]

I checked all the .utc files you listed, and the only one without a .mor file is arl210cr_jowan_corpse.utc, but when I set it as hm_bhm100_jowan.mor and started a new game, his head is still missing, so I doubt this is the problem.

 

You can open the files with DA Toolset.

 

Removing the IA folder from override fixes the problem, so it is definitely something with IA.

 

EDIT:

I found the problem:

Within IA, there are two different bhm100cr_jowan.utc files: one in 2. Modules\2.2. Characters, where I checked the files, and one in 3. PC Origins\Mage.

The second one is the one at fault since it is loaded last. In it, the name of the .mor file is hm_bhm100_jowan2 instead of hm_bhm100_jowan.

SpaceAlex, the author of IA, actually posted a fixpack for this on the 7th, it just didn't occur to me to look at the posts for an extra update patch (I thought it would already be released with the main file).

 

So there you go, problem solved, have fun playing ^^

Edited December 10, 2014 by TheErwO_o

[Dimensionist]

This forum needs a like button. :smile:

 

Thanks for the help, TheErwO_o! You wouldn't happen to have a link to the update, or know where I can find it, would you?

 

Now the only problem I have is that some items in the game have greyed out icons that aren't fixed by The Icons Project, and that Elvhenan doesn't seem to be detected by the game. Should I post a new topic for that, or can we continue using this one?

[TheErwOo]

Here you go.

Just download IA 2.0 RC1 Fixpack 5.7z, extract the content into the Improved Atmosphere folder and let it replace your old files.

Be sure to thank SpaceAlex for his mod.

 

As far as I know, The Icons Project istelf hasn't been updated since 2010, but it is already a part of IA and therefore doesn't need to be installed.

 

"Elvhenan doesn't seem to be detected by the game" what do you mean by that? Are you having trouble installing the .dazip file? If you can't find the weapons after starting a new game, you have to use the console to add them to your inventory (this is a very common bug when starting a new game, the character creation inventory spawn bug).

 

If that is the problem, I suggest you carefully read the discription of Elvhenan Weapons.

 

Since this is starting to get off topic I suggest you PM me if you have any other questions.

 

Glad I could help ^^

Edited December 10, 2014 by TheErwO_o

[Dimensionist]

Thanks. :smile:

 

Anyway, the bit about Elvhenan was me noting that there's a value for Elvhenan in the Optional folder of Materials of IA, but the game doesn't register it as existing in-game (no actual name).

[Dimensionist]

Okay. After adding the Fixpack, I've run into numerous new problems. For instance, Irving's body is now gone, he just appears as a floating head. Based on what I've seen in the discussion thread for IA, people who have this problem also find Flemeth to be gone, and a few other things.

[TheErwOo]

So either a Floating Head or a Missing Head?

 

Seems like you are missing files for Irvings Clothes. Are you using any other files that could edit Irvings .utc file?

Has this problem been there BEFORE you applied the fixpack? Because the fixpack doesn't contain any Irving.utc files. But The original IA does.

 

Did you start a new game?

 

It would be very helpful if you could provide a full list of mods you are using.

 

I have been using TommyIriantos and darthbdamans Of Ferelden mod, which more or less edits the clothes of the different orders (templars, circle, etc.) to their DA2 equivalent, so I don't have this problem.