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Hello all!  I am experiencing a problem where when I leave the Helgen keep and Ralof tells me to go to Riverwood my FPS begins to drop about 30 seconds later and a few seconds after that I CTD.  I have a very large amount of high resolution textures, but my card (GTX 970 4GB) should be more than able to push them, and the drop takes time to occur.  Attached is my plugin list, I use LOOT for the load order and manually fix any errors, if you notice any problems please tell me so I can fix them!

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I am also using the Phinix Natural ENB, which lowers my performance, without it I can play outside (before the drop to CTD) at 90 fps, with it I get 55.



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Here's the list so you don't have to download it :

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
SPIKE.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
GuessDistance.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix HF.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Brows.esp
AshRocks.esp
Auto Unequip Shield.esp
Epic Music Overhaul.esp
BFSEffects.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Beards.esp
Real Roads.esp
Soul Gems Glow When Full.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
PumpingIron.esp
iHUD.esp
ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp
KWTelescope.esp
ImprovedFireyFireSalts.esp
ImprovedFrostyFrostSalts.esp
JaxonzMapMarkers.esp
ReadingTakesTime.esp
KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
CLARALUX.esp
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
No_stretching.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp
SkyUI.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
SplashofRain.esp
SRTODragonbornParallax.esp
SulfurRocks.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
VioLens.esp
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
stranger_danger.esp
Dodge Mod.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
AOS.esp
3DNPC.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
dragonpriestmasks.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Gri_BeastFeet.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
BLEED.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
torches for RL (infinite life).esp
High Level Enemies.esp
Guards Attack Hostiles.esp
Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp
Height Adjusted Races - Dawnguard.esp
Height Adjusted Races - Dragonborn.esp
SwimmingEnemies.esp
RSChildren_PatchHeightAdjustedRaces.esp
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
RealShelter.esp
RSPatch.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
PNENB.esp
Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
RBB - Snow Merge.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
AOS2_FIO Patch.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
DawnofSolitude.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
OBIS Redone.esp
Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp
RAIN.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
HarvestOverhaul_skyBirds_v0.931_Patch.esp
DawnofWindhelm.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
JKs Markarth.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW BoYD Patch.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Post_PatchusMaximus_GiantsAIFix.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
SeeEnchs.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
PerMa Weaponry Fillout.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR IW Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
JKs Windhelm DoW comp.esp
JK's Rorikstead.esp
SoS - Civilization-PatchELFX.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
DawnofWhiterun.esp
JKs Solitude.esp
JK's Riverwood.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
JKs Riften.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
Pre PaMa BoYD Patch.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp
BF.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
JKs Whiterun DofW Comp.esp
Inigo.esp
JKs Dragon Bridge.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
JK's Ivarstead.esp
skycity3.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchELFX.esp
PerMa_Survivalism.esp
Unique Grasses.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
WATER Plants.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Extended Encounters.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
CLARALUX-DG-Patch.esp
CLARALUX-HF-Patch.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp
RedMountainErupts.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
stable_signs.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_130_50.esp
Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp


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Load orders are not all that helpful. Post your LOOT log instead, and enclose it in a set of spoiler tags so it won't clutter the screen.

 

Based on the load order, the only think I can suggest is to make sure all of your mods are updated to the latest version. For example, if you are using the latest version of IA, IW, and GDO, then you should no longer have spike.esm in your load order anymore (because it is no longer needed by those mods).



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Load orders are not all that helpful. Post your LOOT log instead, and enclose it in a set of spoiler tags so it won't clutter the screen.

 

Based on the load order, the only think I can suggest is to make sure all of your mods are updated to the latest version. For example, if you are using the latest version of IA, IW, and GDO, then you should no longer have spike.esm in your load order anymore (because it is no longer needed by those mods).

I use it because it's listed as a master of swimming enemies, and NMM says all of them are up to date, I've downloaded them over the last 2 days.


Edited by bobrichards101, 24 December 2014 - 10:03 PM.


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Load orders are not all that helpful. Post your LOOT log instead, and enclose it in a set of spoiler tags so it won't clutter the screen.

 

Based on the load order, the only think I can suggest is to make sure all of your mods are updated to the latest version. For example, if you are using the latest version of IA, IW, and GDO, then you should no longer have spike.esm in your load order anymore (because it is no longer needed by those mods).

Is the LOOT log the reportdata.js? If so, here it is:

 

Spoiler



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According to TES5Edit all of my mods have conflicting records, is there any way easier than going through every conflict in the game and picking a winner?



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According to TES5Edit all of my mods have conflicting records, is there any way easier than going through every conflict in the game and picking a winner?

 

1) LOOT or BOSS does that for you. But load order arrangements only mitigate mod conflicts. Some mods may still require compatibility patches. Check mod readme's.

 

2) LOOT log is the report generated after you use LOOT to arrange your load order. Copy/paste that here and enclose in a set of spoiler tags.



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I fixed it, I meant the records that have 2 or more modifiers, you can go in and edit their values, but what I did was recompiled all of my patches, removed "A Matter of Time" and "Bandoliers Bags and Pouches" and that apparently makes my game rock solid.



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Problem is located in .ini files in your My Documents/ My Games/ Skyrim folder.

One of the changes in those files made by mods (or manually) CTDs your game and simply reinstalling game wont do d.ck because .inis stay in place after uninstalling Skyrim and future installations keep using them over and over again. Try to clear that folder (saves are located there too, so be careful)  before new installation to start fresh but BEWARE, if u made changes to some cell settings in those .inis, (don't remeber which atm but google does), saves made while playing with those changed inis will CTD after loading in different or vanilla cell setting, and sometimes finding those old settings can be a real pain,  so ALWAYS BACKUP .INIS in case you need to find and reuse those settings to make old saves playable.







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