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Issue:

When I reach a general location in the Soul Cairn during the Dawnguard story, I CTD.

 

Details:

This started happening when I was in the middle of the area where you can find Serana’s mother. I finally got around that glitchy area, and then after I’d spoken with Serana’s mother I headed for Arvak’s skull, and I CTD’ed. At that point, it was no longer possible to even start my game. I began crashing on the title screen. Today I tried to get in to at least load an earlier save, and I managed to load one before I started any of the Dawnguard story, but when I try to make a new save from there, I CTD.

 

I don’t know which crash logs to provide (and I’m new to those as well… actually, I’m not terribly tech-savvy at all). Since it crashes so often, with different scenarios, I don’t know which one would be more helpful... I also don't know how to generate those.

 

My Computer:

iMac OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 running Parallels Desktop 10 for Mac 10.0.1 with Windows 7

2.9 GHz Intel Core i5

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 512 MB

16 GM 1600 MHz DDR3

271.24 GB free space

 

On Windows 7 Skyrim is located C:\program files(x86)\steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim

I’m pretty sure I have the current game version… but I can’t tell right now because I can’t start my game. I had to reinstall this a few times last week.

I have:

Dragonborn

Dawnguard

Hearthfire

I use NMM, LOOT and Tes5Edit

SKSE 1.7.1

FNIS Behaviors Version 5.2

FNIS Spells Version 5.0.1

SkyUI 4.1

I use the GenerateFNISforUsers often (after installing a mod) and I always Run LOOT before each start, after reordering or reinstalling things. I always click “Apply”, although I will admit I don’t know any of what LOOT tells me, I just know that it changes the Load Order and usually fixes any issues.

 

I don’t seem to have a “details” link in my Loot window after I apply the new load order, so I took screencaps of my LOOT Order:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I run a very small fraction of all of these mods. After going through it just now, I’m pretty sure this was my load order last night when I started having problems. I have since then changed the number of active mods, but it never got any better, so I’m assuming it’s pointless to activate/deactivate different mods. Notice that I did not have any of the Unofficial patches installed until last night AFTER I started having these issues.

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfire.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Sexlab.esm
SexlabAroused.esm
HoamaiiGannicusArmor.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
Sexlab Brawling Rape.esp
SexlabDefeat.esp
Lockpickpro.esp
Neithteam Warpaint.esp
Sleeptight.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
CMO - Complete Male Overhaul.esp
Eyes for elves.esp
Haomaii-IronArmor.esp
LoversVictim.esp
MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
VibrantAuroras.esp
Sexlab Submit.esp
SexlabMatchMaker.esp
IOTS_Armor.esp
SkyUI.esp
SOS - Revealing Armors.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VEctorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
TrueEyes.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Marriage_Ulfric.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
SOS- Shop.esp
LoversComfort.esp
Portable Campsite.esp
Overpowered Assasin Bow.esp
FNISspells.esp
Seraphim Set.esp
OmEyes.esp
SexlabDangerousNights.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

Rambly stuff:

 

 

I tried running just the DLCs and of course the Skyrim and Update esm’s. Then I tried them with the unofficial patches. I tried just the Skyrim and the update, and then tried it with the unofficial Skyrim patch. I had no success with any of these combinations when loading either my last save or an older one.

 

I would like to reinstall this game as a last resort, but I recognize that that may be the only solution in this case. I hope the issue is something I’m just missing (the chances of that are pretty high lol) But if it isn’t an easy fix, and I do have to resinstall and start over, is playing Dawnguard a bad idea? I read on other forums that this is just an issue that that particular DLC seems to have, and that it hasn’t ever really been fixed. I thought I might be able to reinstall and start over again, play through Dawnguard, AND THEN install my mods, but if it happens that the game still crashes even after Dawnguard is complete, I’m not sure if that’s even worth the trouble.

 

I know, a lot of people hate Macs. I know, I know, I’m sorry! Please don’t tell me how stupid I am for having a Mac. I’ve got a nice stash saved up for a friend of mine who builds computers (but bills come first), so a rig that can handle more than this one is on the way soon anyway. I know that this game and the mods CAN run on my Mac, so I know I can make it work until I have that nice new comp.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, this is my first post on the forums. I hope I provided enough details, and I tried to save the rambly stuff for the bottom, since I saw that the forums prefer shorter posts. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

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So guess what... I found the Logs folder. My friend must have set that up for me. ^^ But I'm not sure if this is right or not. It seems short. I thought it would be longer.

 

[01/01/2015 - 09:17:56PM] EditorPapyrus log opened (PC)
[01/01/2015 - 09:17:56PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[01/01/2015 - 09:27:27PM] Log closed

 

So I only activated these mods, in this load order. And it crashed when I tried to load a save BEFORE I started the Dawnguard.

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esm
Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esm
Hearthfire.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esm
Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esm

 

I don't know if that helps at all. All of the Logs are that short. This was from EditorPapyrus.0 which I read is supposed to be the most recent.

 

{Edit} Actually, that still doesn't make any sense, I just saw the date and time in this folder... That was when my friend was helping me set up my mods. I'm sorry, that didn't help at all... I guess bedtime is my best choice for now.

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Issue:

When I reach a general location in the Soul Cairn during the Dawnguard story, I CTD.

 

Details:

This started happening when I was in the middle of the area where you can find Serana’s mother. I finally got around that glitchy area, and then after I’d spoken with Serana’s mother I headed for Arvak’s skull, and I CTD’ed. At that point, it was no longer possible to even start my game. I began crashing on the title screen. Today I tried to get in to at least load an earlier save, and I managed to load one before I started any of the Dawnguard story, but when I try to make a new save from there, I CTD.

 

I don’t know which crash logs to provide (and I’m new to those as well… actually, I’m not terribly tech-savvy at all). Since it crashes so often, with different scenarios, I don’t know which one would be more helpful... I also don't know how to generate those.

 

My Computer:

iMac OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 running Parallels Desktop 10 for Mac 10.0.1 with Windows 7

2.9 GHz Intel Core i5

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 512 MB

16 GM 1600 MHz DDR3

271.24 GB free space

 

On Windows 7 Skyrim is located C:\program files(x86)\steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim

I’m pretty sure I have the current game version… but I can’t tell right now because I can’t start my game. I had to reinstall this a few times last week.

I have:

Dragonborn

Dawnguard

Hearthfire

I use NMM, LOOT and Tes5Edit

SKSE 1.7.1

FNIS Behaviors Version 5.2

FNIS Spells Version 5.0.1

SkyUI 4.1

I use the GenerateFNISforUsers often (after installing a mod) and I always Run LOOT before each start, after reordering or reinstalling things. I always click “Apply”, although I will admit I don’t know any of what LOOT tells me, I just know that it changes the Load Order and usually fixes any issues.

 

I don’t seem to have a “details” link in my Loot window after I apply the new load order, so I took screencaps of my LOOT Order:

 

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.23.09 PM.png

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.23.25 PM.png

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.23.59 PM.png

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.24.10 PM.png

 

 

 

 

I run a very small fraction of all of these mods. After going through it just now, I’m pretty sure this was my load order last night when I started having problems. I have since then changed the number of active mods, but it never got any better, so I’m assuming it’s pointless to activate/deactivate different mods. Notice that I did not have any of the Unofficial patches installed until last night AFTER I started having these issues.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Hearthfire.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

Sexlab.esm

SexlabAroused.esm

HoamaiiGannicusArmor.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

Sexlab Brawling Rape.esp

SexlabDefeat.esp

Lockpickpro.esp

Neithteam Warpaint.esp

Sleeptight.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

CMO - Complete Male Overhaul.esp

Eyes for elves.esp

Haomaii-IronArmor.esp

LoversVictim.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

VibrantAuroras.esp

Sexlab Submit.esp

SexlabMatchMaker.esp

IOTS_Armor.esp

SkyUI.esp

SOS - Revealing Armors.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VEctorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

TrueEyes.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Marriage_Ulfric.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

SOS- Shop.esp

LoversComfort.esp

Portable Campsite.esp

Overpowered Assasin Bow.esp

FNISspells.esp

Seraphim Set.esp

OmEyes.esp

SexlabDangerousNights.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

 

 

Rambly stuff:

 

 

I tried running just the DLCs and of course the Skyrim and Update esm’s. Then I tried them with the unofficial patches. I tried just the Skyrim and the update, and then tried it with the unofficial Skyrim patch. I had no success with any of these combinations when loading either my last save or an older one.

 

I would like to reinstall this game as a last resort, but I recognize that that may be the only solution in this case. I hope the issue is something I’m just missing (the chances of that are pretty high lol) But if it isn’t an easy fix, and I do have to resinstall and start over, is playing Dawnguard a bad idea? I read on other forums that this is just an issue that that particular DLC seems to have, and that it hasn’t ever really been fixed. I thought I might be able to reinstall and start over again, play through Dawnguard, AND THEN install my mods, but if it happens that the game still crashes even after Dawnguard is complete, I’m not sure if that’s even worth the trouble.

 

I know, a lot of people hate Macs. I know, I know, I’m sorry! Please don’t tell me how stupid I am for having a Mac. I’ve got a nice stash saved up for a friend of mine who builds computers (but bills come first), so a rig that can handle more than this one is on the way soon anyway. I know that this game and the mods CAN run on my Mac, so I know I can make it work until I have that nice new comp.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, this is my first post on the forums. I hope I provided enough details, and I tried to save the rambly stuff for the bottom, since I saw that the forums prefer shorter posts. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

 

 

 

 

Ummm,

 

Just an FYI You cannot legally run Apple OSX as a "Hackintosh" it is against the EULA they require their hardware, and while your game version is legal, Your laptop is not.....

 

 

PIRACY of any kind is frowned upon here, and you will be banned.

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Ummm,

 

Just an FYI You cannot legally run Apple OSX as a "Hackintosh" it is against the EULA they require their hardware, and while your game version is legal, Your laptop is not.....

 

 

PIRACY of any kind is frowned upon here, and you will be banned.

 

I don't understand. I bought everything. I bought Parallels, I bought my copy of Windows 7. This is how any tech store tells you to set up Windows on a Mac. This is how the local Apple store helped me get Windows 7 on my computer (It's a desktop, not a laptop, I don't know if that's important).

 

Parallels 10 wouldn't run on Mavericks, so sometime before Christmas I went in and bought the new Parallels when it was 40% off from the Apple store (online) and had to reinstall the copy of Windows 7 (which I bought legally) after upgrading to Yosemite.

 

I don't understand how it's illegal, and yet stores will help customers set their computers up this way.

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Issue:

When I reach a general location in the Soul Cairn during the Dawnguard story, I CTD.

 

Details:

This started happening when I was in the middle of the area where you can find Serana’s mother. I finally got around that glitchy area, and then after I’d spoken with Serana’s mother I headed for Arvak’s skull, and I CTD’ed. At that point, it was no longer possible to even start my game. I began crashing on the title screen. Today I tried to get in to at least load an earlier save, and I managed to load one before I started any of the Dawnguard story, but when I try to make a new save from there, I CTD.

 

I don’t know which crash logs to provide (and I’m new to those as well… actually, I’m not terribly tech-savvy at all). Since it crashes so often, with different scenarios, I don’t know which one would be more helpful... I also don't know how to generate those.

 

My Computer:

iMac OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 running Parallels Desktop 10 for Mac 10.0.1 with Windows 7

2.9 GHz Intel Core i5

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 512 MB

16 GM 1600 MHz DDR3

271.24 GB free space

 

On Windows 7 Skyrim is located C:\program files(x86)\steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim

I’m pretty sure I have the current game version… but I can’t tell right now because I can’t start my game. I had to reinstall this a few times last week.

I have:

Dragonborn

Dawnguard

Hearthfire

I use NMM, LOOT and Tes5Edit

SKSE 1.7.1

FNIS Behaviors Version 5.2

FNIS Spells Version 5.0.1

SkyUI 4.1

I use the GenerateFNISforUsers often (after installing a mod) and I always Run LOOT before each start, after reordering or reinstalling things. I always click “Apply”, although I will admit I don’t know any of what LOOT tells me, I just know that it changes the Load Order and usually fixes any issues.

 

I don’t seem to have a “details” link in my Loot window after I apply the new load order, so I took screencaps of my LOOT Order:

 

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.23.09 PM.png

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.23.25 PM.png

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.23.59 PM.png

http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_images/underground/attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2015-01-07 at 11.24.10 PM.png

 

 

 

 

I run a very small fraction of all of these mods. After going through it just now, I’m pretty sure this was my load order last night when I started having problems. I have since then changed the number of active mods, but it never got any better, so I’m assuming it’s pointless to activate/deactivate different mods. Notice that I did not have any of the Unofficial patches installed until last night AFTER I started having these issues.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Hearthfire.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

Sexlab.esm

SexlabAroused.esm

HoamaiiGannicusArmor.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

Sexlab Brawling Rape.esp

SexlabDefeat.esp

Lockpickpro.esp

Neithteam Warpaint.esp

Sleeptight.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

CMO - Complete Male Overhaul.esp

Eyes for elves.esp

Haomaii-IronArmor.esp

LoversVictim.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

VibrantAuroras.esp

Sexlab Submit.esp

SexlabMatchMaker.esp

IOTS_Armor.esp

SkyUI.esp

SOS - Revealing Armors.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VEctorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

TrueEyes.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Marriage_Ulfric.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

SOS- Shop.esp

LoversComfort.esp

Portable Campsite.esp

Overpowered Assasin Bow.esp

FNISspells.esp

Seraphim Set.esp

OmEyes.esp

SexlabDangerousNights.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

 

 

Rambly stuff:

 

 

I tried running just the DLCs and of course the Skyrim and Update esm’s. Then I tried them with the unofficial patches. I tried just the Skyrim and the update, and then tried it with the unofficial Skyrim patch. I had no success with any of these combinations when loading either my last save or an older one.

 

I would like to reinstall this game as a last resort, but I recognize that that may be the only solution in this case. I hope the issue is something I’m just missing (the chances of that are pretty high lol) But if it isn’t an easy fix, and I do have to resinstall and start over, is playing Dawnguard a bad idea? I read on other forums that this is just an issue that that particular DLC seems to have, and that it hasn’t ever really been fixed. I thought I might be able to reinstall and start over again, play through Dawnguard, AND THEN install my mods, but if it happens that the game still crashes even after Dawnguard is complete, I’m not sure if that’s even worth the trouble.

 

I know, a lot of people hate Macs. I know, I know, I’m sorry! Please don’t tell me how stupid I am for having a Mac. I’ve got a nice stash saved up for a friend of mine who builds computers (but bills come first), so a rig that can handle more than this one is on the way soon anyway. I know that this game and the mods CAN run on my Mac, so I know I can make it work until I have that nice new comp.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, this is my first post on the forums. I hope I provided enough details, and I tried to save the rambly stuff for the bottom, since I saw that the forums prefer shorter posts. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

 

 

 

 

Ummm,

 

Just an FYI You cannot legally run Apple OSX as a "Hackintosh" it is against the EULA they require their hardware, and while your game version is legal, Your laptop is not.....

 

 

PIRACY of any kind is frowned upon here, and you will be banned.

 

I don't understand. I bought everything. I bought Parallels, I bought my copy of Windows 7. This is how any tech store tells you to set up Windows on a Mac. This is how the local Apple store helped me get Windows 7 on my computer (It's a desktop, not a laptop, I don't know if that's important).

 

Parallels 10 wouldn't run on Mavericks, so sometime before Christmas I went in and bought the new Parallels when it was 40% off from the Apple store (online) and had to reinstall the copy of Windows 7 (which I bought legally) after upgrading to Yosemite.

 

I don't understand how it's illegal, and yet stores will help customers set their computers up this way.

 

GeForce GT 650M
Accelerate your notebook’s performance by up to 4.5x with cutting-edge NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M dedicated graphics. Get GeForce dedicated graphics for amazing gaming and multimedia, plus NVIDIA® Optimus™ technology for maximum battery life.
Maybe they have a MAC 650M that is a PCI-E card.
Stores will do anything that makes money.. The EULA for OSX is very picky.
I don't promote usage outside legal fundamental boundaries. Based upon the basic specs, sure looked and quacked like a laptop, even with 16 GB of memory..
We get so many "Hackintosh" and hacked console questions that, I'm not going to risk my membership here to be honest.
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GeForce GT 650M
Accelerate your notebook’s performance by up to 4.5x with cutting-edge NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M dedicated graphics. Get GeForce dedicated graphics for amazing gaming and multimedia, plus NVIDIA® Optimus™ technology for maximum battery life.
Maybe they have a MAC 650M that is a PCI-E card.
Stores will do anything that makes money.. The EULA for OSX is very picky.
I don't promote usage outside legal fundamental boundaries. Based upon the basic specs, sure looked and quacked like a laptop, even with 16 GB of memory..
We get so many "Hackintosh" and hacked console questions that, I'm not going to risk my membership here to be honest.

 

Oh! The video card? From my understanding, it's not possible to custom build a mac comuputer, since everything is built into the computer itself and sealed up, or at least that's what my friend said. I asked him if it was possible to upgrade my video card. So the card just.... came with the computer when I bought it. I'm not sure how else I could have avoided using that NVIDIA card..... or am I still misunderstanding this? :sad:

 

I can ask him for help with my game crashing, I just thought it would be a good chance to familiarize myself with the Nexus forums, and maybe to learn how to handle this myself before running to him. lol

But if it's going to make people uncomfortable and if it's risky for Nexus, I can.... not ask this... I guess. I've read topics here where people were banned for any kind of piracy, so I know that it's dangerous for a mod site like this one. But as far as I know, I haven't pirated anything here, and so I thought it was safe to ask.

 

And if there is an issue, I won't be able to discuss it until later tonight. I have work.

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A "hackintosh" is a hacked version of MAC OSX that been been hacked to run of almost any PC that would normally run windows.

OP I don't see any issues with what you have for a mac.

 

For those saying mac don't use nvidia cards read here.

http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2012/06/11/new-apple-macbook-pros-feature-kepler-class-geforce-gpus/

 

PS

OP I don't know what is causing your crash, but many of the mods you use are outdated.

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A "hackintosh" is a hacked version of MAC OSX that been been hacked to run of almost any PC that would normally run windows.

OP I don't see any issues with what you have for a mac.

 

For those saying mac don't use nvidia cards read here.

http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2012/06/11/new-apple-macbook-pros-feature-kepler-class-geforce-gpus/

 

PS

OP I don't know what is causing your crash, but many of the mods you use are outdated.

 

Okay, you got me scared after that, Reynard131. Lol.

I searched and only saw other sites talking about how running Mac on a Windows computer wasn't kosher, but I was trying to see if I really did need to worry about how I have my computer set up.

Crisis averted.

 

I bet an actual crash log would have been helpful... I'm sorry. I'll try to get one, but I think it might just be easier to reinstall everything.

 

So I downloaded most of those mods sometime last week. I know I got them working on New Years. So the ones I downloaded from here are the only versions available. I mean, I looked to see that I was downloading the latest version, but will that not matter?

 

If I decide to just wipe it and try again,

1) will these mods work?

2) Do I need to re-download them or can I use the ones from my download folder? If they're still in my NMM can I use them from there, or is it a good idea to remove them completely?

and 3) How can I ensure that I've completely removed the game from my computer so that it doesn't pick up any bad code when I reinstall it from Steam? (<--- I feel stupid asking that, but I might as well, just to make sure I don't screw up)

 

I guess if I go this route, I should play through Dawnguard first, AND THEN... try to mod my game again....

 

I suppose it would be tedious for you if I ask which mods were out of date... Can I ask if it's any of the important ones, like SKSE or FNIS or anything?

 

And why can't I just deactivate all of the mods except Skyrim.esm and Update.esm? Is it because the whole game is "infected" or something?

 

Okay, I'm sorry! I have a lot of questions. I really appreciate you reading all of this, chevyowner. I'm sorry it's wordy.

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After looking again they may not be but the ones, I was thinking were are not from the nexus.

OH! I did download some from the Steam workshop. the ones I use the most are the Overpowered Assassin bow and Lockpick pro. I bet there are others... If I try this again I might consider not using those at first. I might see if there are newer versions of those, since I acquired those mods over a year ago.

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