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The worst case of Random CTD's I've ever heard of


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I have for literally months been plagued by a whole host of CTD issues which eventually make my game completely unplayable. I have lost dozens of characters to it. The miserable part about it is, on a brand new save, everything appears to work just fine. It's only after I do some quests, level up a bit, start to devote some time to a playthrough that I begin to crash. And once I start crashing, I crash EVERYWHERE. Waiting, saving, loading, ANYWHERE I come across a loading screen. It seems so random and inexplicable. So this last playthrough I didn't modify my load order at all. Didn't add, change, or remove a thing. After a while, it still began crashing.

 

The only thing I can think of as far as a hypothesis is possibly some scripting conflict somewhere between my mods when a quest script or something starts up. But I cannot test which mods are the culprit, because everything works fine on a brand-new, clean save, before I start to really get into quests and things.

 

So, my stats:

My GFX is: GeForce GTX 660M
My CPU is: Intel® Core i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
I have 8 GB of RAM
I run Windows 7 64 bit
I use ENBoost and Sheson's Memory Patch
I use Mod Organizer, not NMM, to manage my downloads and load order.
My load order:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
AsharaMerchantNPC.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
AzarHair.esm
TERAArmors.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm
AP Skyrim.esm
ORS_MorthalPain.esm
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
FallOut3Hairs.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
moonpath.esm
GeneralStores.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm
Disease Descriptions.esp
KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
FlameAtronachArmor.esp
Lich King's Armor.esp
DHuntress.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp
ASX_Spells.esp
KKFur.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyTweak.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BuryTheDead.esp
FISS.esp
Auto Unequip Shield.esp
Collar.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
BWS.esp
Death Mountain part2.esp
DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Dovahkiin prayer.esp
WATER Falskaar.esp
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
DovahBlingJewelry.esp
SMEssentialPlayer.esp
ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
FantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.esp
ShootingStars.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp
HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp
KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
AOS.esp
3DNPC.esp
Jojjos Warglaives.esp
Silverlight Armor.esp
AFT_iNPCFix.esp
DarkTower.esp
Mapseller Dragonborn.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp
SMEssentialPlayerDawnGuard.esp
WATER DB.esp
SwiftPotion.esp
Undeath.esp
TakeNotes.esp
Tera Armor Level List.esp
Better Vampires.esp
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Shoo_TestCRVampFix.esp
WATER.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
donorcollegejoin.esp
w2salem.esp
Actualize Apparel.esp
Lurking in the shadows.esp
sjel blad castle.esp
AnnaNPCs.esp
FullBootForKKSA.esp
Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp
Atvir.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
The McMiller Chronicles.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Inigo.esp
Cloaks.esp
UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp
BrhuceLegacy.esp
Point The Way.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
The Fifth Gate.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
GDAttire.esp
CrimsonQuest3.esp
AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
xamnant.esp
MidasSkyrim.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp
FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp
Black Mage Armor.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
HothFollower.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
Princess Riverwood Cottage.esp
CompanionArissa.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
Mapseller Dawnguard.esp
ItBeatsForHer.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
FNISspells.esp
TERA Weapons.esp
portable hole.esp
AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
Mapseller.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
Dwemertech - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
alcoholiceffect.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Convenient Horse Herding.esp
HavenBag.esp
Spectraverse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
WATER DG.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
hc5changerace.esp
warmagearmor.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
craftingsupples_aio_all.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp

Things I have done in an effort to fix this plague of crashes include disabling autosaves (Didn't work); going to savetool.exe and clicking Fix all, fix script instances, and reset Havok (Sometimes enabled me to load a save that would crash upon load, but then it would just crash when I fast-travelled or something); and making sure all my checkboxes are green in Wrye bash (they are, all of them);
For as long as I have been dealing with this- since December!- I frankly am not holding out much hope for an answer. If I cannot resolve this I'm gonna eventually quit Skyrim altogether, which makes me very sad, because it was a great game until it wasn't.

 

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It might be a quest starting script because you have met some requisites that triggered it, besides you have sexlab, that sh17 is a script mess, if you get to any area with lots of npcs recognized by sexlab it will try to change their behaviour to fit your...desires aaaaaaand then crash when the scripts conflict with any other mod that alters NPC behaviour

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I hate to say this,But you must be doing something wrong.

 

What does your Boss/Loot log say??? Does it mention any conflicts???

 

Its true that Skyrim will crash more and more often as you progress in the game, More and more scripts will be added to your saves and especially if youre running a lot of mods.

 

If your game crashes constantly at the beginning it almost smells like mod conflicts, Always be patient at the beginning when you mod your game, Take your time to read the authors description on Conflicts/Compability, Dont just add a mod if it looks cool and you already have 2-3 other mods that Does/edit the same things.

 

make sure your mods are compatible.

make sure theyre patched.

Make sure theyre sorted with the latest version of Loot.

Make sure theyre cleaned with tes5edit (Clean the update+ the dlcs Dawnguard,Hearthfire;Dragonborn)

Make sure to refer to your boss-log before cleaning other mods (Some are dependant on dirty edits to work properly)

 

Maybe you should even do a reinstall of Skyrim, Ive heard that even clean saves have problems with scripts.

 

Hope you will get an enjoyable game very soon. Thanks to all these great modders Skyrim have actually become quite a stable game.

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your load order looks a bit all over the place. LOOT's order isn't 100% and you'll always need to readjust things.

Have a look at your mod list and decide which ones are actually required and which are just there taking up space and doing nothing but messing with your game.

I'd also have a look at grabbing WAFR (as recommended on the PerMa page) and patch accordingly.

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Ah man that is harsh. Is your game pushing the startup memory past 500mb blocks? I had to adjust the .ini file for startup memory because frequently I am in the 500s and even sometimes push 600s and 700s in heavy NPC areas. Just checked my memory log on my last play the other day. It is at 628mb.

 

If that does not work, it might be time to try a 100% fresh install, then only install a few mods at a time. Stress testing each time along the way. And leave out any mods that you might suspect be conflicting. Only install your absolute must haves. Only tweak an .ini file if a mod requires it.

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