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Display cases - please help


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Can someone please find or make a mod to deepen the display cases? I'm getting frustrated.

 

I remember when I used to play Skyrim without any mods. I used to love piling all my gems in a display case in Hjerim or Proudspire. I don't know if the display cases have been modified by an official update or the USKP or what, but now they really suck.

 

I try placing gems, rare items, whatever inside the display cases and the items float. It seems like the models or meshes for the display case has been changed, taking away any depth in the case. The collision surface has changed. I used to put dozens of gems in one display case and see them piled up. Now they float unrealistically just under the lid. It really sucks and ruins the whole point of the display cases.

 

BTW, I have the unofficial patches and the Proudspire Manor Refurbished mod by Ghaunadaur installed. I can't find any indication of the display cases having been altered, but they've definitely got different depth and collision from when I played before.

 

Does anyone have any fixes or suggestions?

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Apparently some official update or unofficial patch added weapon and dagger racks to all the display cases. This is nice if you like that but sucks if you don't. It means I can't put whatever I want in the display cases.

 

And of course, the very best Proudspire Manor mod can't be edited with the CK to remove the dagger racks. If I try to load Proudspire Manor Refurbished into the CK, it displays a localization error and freezes.

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Isn't this -not- a problem with the positioner though as you can freely place anything and lock it into place? Even items colliding with other items? So my though is you open the display case, use the positioner on whatever you put in there, close the display case.

Heck, I see several mods around the nexus that are good at placing a lot of things for you (mostly in shelves) but when it comes time for my display cases to come out I'll suggest the positioner right on my mod page simply for what it can do from what I can see.

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There are two things that can be done with the display cases.

 

1 - After opening the lid, you can interact with the rack, causing your currently equipped weapon to be placed inside the display case, neatly centered and held in place so it won't slide down.

 

2 - You can manually place something in the case. But the "weapon or dagger rack" has a collision surface so anything you manually place in the case will float on top. If the object is too big to fit, closing the lid will cause the object to fly off.

 

The only solution is to use the CK to remove the weapon racks and activation objects from the cases. This is fine if you're playing an unmodded game. But if you are using a mod that alters the player's homes, you would have to edit that mod. This generally shouldn't be a problem but Proudspire Manor Refurbished has a localization error that prevents it from properly loading in the CK. It sucks because it's such a great mod, it looks absolutely awesome, but there's no way to fix the display cases.

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I did follow the link to Jaxonz Utilities but I don't think it will help. The positioner tool would be nice, but as I said, the weapon and dagger racks apply a collision surface to the inside of the display case. Even using the positioner tool, I won't get the desired function. I wanna be able to place multiple objects inside the case and have them havoc settle, exactly how the display cases originally worked.

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And what I am saying is while the items wont settle themselves with the positioner you can place them anyway you like manually. A bunch of gems that sit right against the inlay of the display case? Doable. Gems stick halfway out of the bottom of the display case if you wanted? To hell with collision says Jaxonz positioner! How about a display case in a display case? DONE!

Are they havok? No. But Does this let you place multiple objects in display cases? Yes.

I find it odd though. I play unmodded Skyrim as up until my new computer arrives I've only ever played the Legendary edition on PS3 where the display cases have no feature like the display racks. And per this (http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?/topic/3636-mods-made-obsolete-by-unofficial-patches/) I see nothing in the unofficial patches that give them that either...

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It's definitely a game update that changed it. I opened up the CK and only loaded Skyrim.esm and Update.esm. Then I loaded the cell for Hjerim. The display cases have WeaponRackDisplayPlayerHouse and WeaponRackDisplayACTIVATORPlayerHouse placed over them.

 

This is something that should have been optional.

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