Ian and Lucy West

[pleasenoname]

I found Ian West with The Family. After much consideration, I just couldn't make a deal with the family vampires to "protect" the town. It seemed wrong, When I left, they would just do what they wanted with the Arefu town folk.

So I decided to whack the entire family. I handed the letter from Lucy to Ian.

However, instead of moving in with Lucy he moved back to Arefu. When I walked in to his house, I noticed that his parents bodies were gone and he was eating a meat shishkebab. I wondered weather he would kill the other towns folk and eat them eventually. Also I wondered why Evan King never noticed that there were two dead residents; perhaps king was in on it.

Also, I noticed a bone saw in Karl's locker; I guess not everyone was sticking to the blood only rule.

In the end I had Ian West stay underground in the now empty family hideout. I told Lucy that he was safe (didn't mention where he was) and told Evan King that I couldn't find him. Lucy likes me now, as attested by her new dialogue, when I leave.

Why doesn't Ian move in with Lucy, when you show him the letter from her? She has two beds.

Should I have killed Ian to protect the world from his cannibalism? Why does Ian have no memory of it, yet he also states he can see everything, but can't stop. That seems to be contradictory, perhaps its bad writing or maybe a hidden story element.

I'm interested to hear anyone's opinion on this quest.

[WastelandAssassin]

i guess he is ashamed of himself for the fact that he killed his family

i mean, if you killed your parents, would you really be able to look at your sister after that??

besides, he isn't some maniac psycho or something of that sort, just sick

 

i don't know about others, but i was actually supporting the family

if they were really willing to commit to drinking from blood packs, then they would be valuable allies (at least, i think so)

i never had a reason not to trust them, so i never harmed them

 

and about Evan King, he wasn't in on the dead bodies

he wasn't part of it

but when you are up all the time, guarding, you are likely to start dozing off, and you could miss something like the fight in the West residents

and he does know about the dead bodies

at least, you tell him about them, as part of the quest

 

and what he says does make sense (at least to me)

after all, you don't have to remember doing something, to suffer the consequences of the act

so he might not remember killing his parents, but he knows he did it, and he understands what is happening to him

this is another reason why he wants to live in seclusion

to make sure that no others come to harm

this is why he went to the family in the first place

 

these are just my two cents :biggrin:

[pleasenoname]

It's impossible to drink blood from a dead corpse, the blood coagulates.

Therefore when Vance claims to have done that with the West's, he lied.

 

You're right, Ian is sick and may kill again. I will mod in a trial and execution for him.

 

The family shot dead all those Brahmin despite Vance's orders. None of the family take his rules seriously, just talk to them instead of going to the computer to learn the rules. They all even sit down at that long table and eat meat, if you come at the right time of day to see it. Karl even remarks how the last traveler to come through was chewy and he keeps a bone saw in his locker.

The guy they send to "gaurd" the town, even has trouble remembering the rules when asked about them (must not look at rules on the computer to get this dialogue option). They are receiving payment in blood packs to either leave the town alone or "protect it". The mafia does that; it's called a protection racket.

It's morally reprehensible to leave Arefu at the mercy of the family.

 

Furthermore Ian is left in isolation by the family, a technique used in brainwashing. Ian's inability to clearly remember the incident and Vance's seeming knowledge of Ian's problem, lead me to postulate that Vance slipped Ian drugs to confuse him and manipulate him into thinking he killed the Wests, so that he may gain a new follower.

[WastelandAssassin]

It's impossible to drink blood from a dead corpse, the blood coagulates.

Therefore when Vance claims to have done that with the West's, he lied.

 

You're right, Ian is sick and may kill again. I will mod in a trial and execution for him.

 

The family shot dead all those Brahmin despite Vance's orders. None of the family take his rules seriously, just talk to them instead of going to the computer to learn the rules. They all even sit down at that long table and eat meat, if you come at the right time of day to see it. Karl even remarks how the last traveler to come through was chewy and he keeps a bone saw in his locker.

The guy they send to "gaurd" the town, even has trouble remembering the rules when asked about them (must not look at rules on the computer to get this dialogue option). They are receiving payment in blood packs to either leave the town alone or "protect it". The mafia does that; it's called a protection racket.

It's morally reprehensible to leave Arefu at the mercy of the family.

 

Furthermore Ian is left in isolation by the family, a technique used in brainwashing. Ian's inability to clearly remember the incident and Vance's seeming knowledge of Ian's problem, lead me to postulate that Vance slipped Ian drugs to confuse him and manipulate him into thinking he killed the Wests, so that he may gain a new follower.

 

i have to say, i have never thought of all that this way......

i guess i was so caught up in the words, that i stopped listening, and the truth just passed me by.......

 

well, i haven't played FO3 in a really long while, so i can't really remember the family and the rules and such, but now i can look at them in a whole new way

 

thanks for the eye opener

if i ever play that again, i'll be sure to read better, and think more before i act

[CorpoAnakin]

i guess he is ashamed of himself for the fact that he killed his family

i mean, if you killed your parents, would you really be able to look at your sister after that??

besides, he isn't some maniac psycho or something of that sort, just sick

 

i don't know about others, but i was actually supporting the family

if they were really willing to commit to drinking from blood packs, then they would be valuable allies (at least, i think so)

i never had a reason not to trust them, so i never harmed them

 

and about Evan King, he wasn't in on the dead bodies

he wasn't part of it

but when you are up all the time, guarding, you are likely to start dozing off, and you could miss something like the fight in the West residents

and he does know about the dead bodies

at least, you tell him about them, as part of the quest

 

and what he says does make sense (at least to me)

after all, you don't have to remember doing something, to suffer the consequences of the act

so he might not remember killing his parents, but he knows he did it, and he understands what is happening to him

this is another reason why he wants to live in seclusion

to make sure that no others come to harm

this is why he went to the family in the first place

 

these are just my two cents http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/biggrin.gif

Holy f*#@ you are genius all what you said makes sense especially the rules one, I'm gonna blow their head off rn.

Saw lots of Reddit post about it, but your take on it is the best!

[laclongquan]

The matter of Arefu is a matter of lesser among two evils.

 

They are weak, less fighters (only standing son of a gun is an oldster), and suffer predation from not only The Family but Super Mutants and raiders/slavers too.

 

So having The Family leaving them alone is possible, but I never do it. Always a system of trading blood for protection. Not donating because we aint living in Middle Age no more, baby~

 

As for Ian~ He's already killed their parents, and he's going to live with that to his dying breath. While I can kill him, the town is too small to get another loss.