Xyroca Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Hello Nexus Community! I've been afraid of posting here for a long time, but everyone seems so nice and helpful, and I'd really like some input about my computer and Skyrim setup. I'm not very computer savvy, so I have a lot of questions and would appreciate some help and suggestions. I apologize if I'm rambly, as I'm trying to be as thorough as possible.I'm having trouble with my modded Skyrim, of course. I've been playing the game for about three years and modding it for the last year and a half to two years I'd say. I have SKSE, SkyUI, ENBoost, and OneTweak installed. I use MO, LOOT, FNIS, TES5Edit, and Wrye Bash. Like anyone, I've got a handful of texture packs, but I use 1K textures whenever available. I'm also aware I have a couple of script heavy mods. I've already cut back quite a bit so I'm not sure what else I can live without.I supposedly had a gaming computer built/bought more or less specifically for Skyrim after I bought it. These are my specs.Windows 7 + Service Pack 1Intel® Core i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz 2.93GHz16.0 G RAM NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTAre they low, medium, or high? I know I should probably definitely upgrade my graphics card but I spent my "me" money buying Minecraft the other day. :tongue: *shakes fist at Gopher*My general problems are:-Crashing straight to desktop with no warning after some time of play (can be anywhere from ten minutes to an hour)-Lots of stuttering (indoors and outdoors, pretty much every few minutes of play)-Low FPS (anywhere from 10 - 30 without ENB, drops considerably with ENB enabled obviously)The game is playable if I'm patient but I feel like there's something I'm missing? Or am I just deluding myself after watching videos of others playing with mods + textures + etc and boasting 30 - 40 FPS? Do I need to seriously consider getting a new computer/graphics card/something else along those lines to improve my Skyrim/gaming experience?Active Mods00 Skyrim.esm01 Update.esm02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.1.103 Dawnguard.esm04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]05 HearthFires.esm06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]07 Dragonborn.esm08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]09 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm0A ClimatesOfTamriel.esm0B EFFCore.esm0C ETaC - RESOURCES.esm0D FunctionalHomes.esm [Version 2.0]0E Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm0F Campfire.esm10 MFVM.esm11 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 1.1.2]12 Insignificant Object Remover.esp13 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp14 MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp15 JiubQuestMarkers.esp16 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp17 StormWrathLightning.esp18 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp19 BetterWhitePhialEffects.esp1A BetterQuestObjectives.esp [Version 1.5.2]1B SSoB.esp1C No Combat Boundaries - 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Correct me if I'm wrong, please.) Edited May 10, 2015 by Xyroca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noortje Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Your GPU is very weak and also only has 512 vram. The stuttering happens when your vram gets filled up and when your GPU can't keep up with the stuff it needs to load. Get a recent GPU like the gtx 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zehke Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Hey Xyroca, :ohdear: You are threatening the game engine! There are two possibilities: get a new PC!- your CPU is at the "end of life" so intel says (http://ark.intel.com/de/products/46472/Intel-Core-i3-530-Processor-4M-Cache-2_93-GHz) 2 cores, 4 threads, and you have some mods which increases the amount of serial instructions in an unhandable way for you pc,- your graphics is beyond good and evil (http://www.nvidia.de/object/geforce_9800gt_de.html): you simply cannot use any enb, any mod that comes with new shading or simply increase texture-quality: there are only 512 mb gddr-ram, according to that your game is only really fluent on lowest settings.- the amount of installed mods is also not handable for the engine with that lack of resources I can tell what I have, and even I cannot run enb:CPU: 4 cores @ 3,0 ghz, 8 threadsGPU: 2 gb gddr ram, 900mhz core clockspeed, around 1000 cores, ... i should keep it simple (if you buy a new card you should ever get one for 300,00€ or more (advise from a informatics, that has to deal with that processors alot), your graphics is not even half that strong as mine. emm ... your RAM is way to much, with that processors you dont need that much, the most of it should not be really used AND finally you are a lucky one ... windows 7 is running on that fluently i guess. second option: the really ugly one (aspecially for the visuals and immersion)- deinstall mods (and the related one) one after another, and check if the situation gots better- set your gamesettings to the lowest and increase it step by step,- close all unneeded programmes (for exsample play offline and shut down your virusscanner and firewall) to increase the amount of resources for the game a little bit I am sorry for the harsh words! I do not mean to insult you! - Do yourself and your game a favour and get a new pc! I promise you really will love the game if you get a new one (had this 3 month after release - my pc was a little, really little bit better than yours now), even modding is more fun, you can do more and you just simply see more. Things go faster of course. Nevertheless have a nice day. =) PS: sorry for my poor english, I am german Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyroca Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Thank you both for the input! Good or bad, I welcome it. @ZehkeThank you especially for your honestly! I'm not insulted at all. ^_^ The numbers mean nothing to me unfortunately but I will definitely talk to someone and see about getting a better rig. I didn't think this computer was really fit for it, but it was a gift, so... I didn't want to insult the giver. Should I just get a new computer entirely, or would replacing my graphics card be sufficient? As a note, I did try to replace the card once, and it wouldn't take. The computer would start up, but display nothing - I had to put the old one back inside. So I'm worried even if I buy a newer one, the hardware inside my tower is just not compatible and/or capable of handling it. Unfortunately I won't be able to spend over $300 (converted euro to dollars) on just a card; I only get $500 a month on disability and $370 goes immediately to bills. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Your biggest bottleneck is that video card. You don't need the latest super duper video card, find one with at least 2G of video ram though. Be sure to check to be sure your power supply can handle a more powerful video card - a weak Power supply can destroy your computer. The stock power supplies that come with many common brand name computers can barely run the stock components and will choke on a decent video card. The processor is a bit weak, but if you stay away from script heavy mods it should be OK. I wouldn't expect any FPS over about 30 though ( BTW 30FPS is what the consoles are locked at) Yes, 16G of system ram is overkill, but the extra won't hurt you. Skyrim can only use a maximum of 4G, and anything else that runs in the background will use any available ram above that. But still likely no more than 6G at the most. Get rid of anything running in background you don't absolutely have to have. It is possible that some background process (such as Skype) is occasionally trying to do something and causing a crash. Run a good antivirus, then a junk software remover to remove the crap that is installed by some sites - I currently use JRT (Junkware Removal Tool) - it's free and available here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/junkware_removal_tool.html Some antiviruses like to check every disk read and write, even if they just checked it a c=few seconds ago - this can cause stuttering, slow downs and lower FPS, usually there is a setting in the AV that can disable that constant checking - it will be different depending on your AV so read through the documentation to find it. Some defrag programs will run at any time and sow things down - be sure to disable any automatic defrag programs while you are playing. (Win7 doesn't need a defrag program) Check your page file - with that much ram, you can have a larger page file and reduce the number of disk read/writes (possible slight speed up and small FPS improvement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyroca Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 @bben46I already turn off anything in the background that I can possibly close with the task manager when I want to play. How do I check my power supply or page file? I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to, to be honest. As for antiviruses, I don't think I have one, unless Microsoft Security Essentials counts. :/ I also don't have a defrag program that I'm aware of. I had Revo Pro Uninstaller (or something along those lines) until my free trial ran out. I downloaded the Junkware Removal Tool, thank you. Now that I think about it, I should probably just get an entirely new computer, as this one has other miscellaneous problems and can no longer download anything through windows update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyroca Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Okay, so... I fudged something up and I'm not sure what/how. In the process of trying to update MO, I accidentally removed all my mods... Fine, I can deal, I need get rid of all of the big texture packs anyway, right? So I grabbed my gameplay/immersion mods (and SMIM and TRF, because ew vanilla meshes, water, and mountains), but now the game runs WORSE? I only experienced the occasional CTD with no warning, usually after some time of actually getting to play - now it CTDs all over the place with the "Skyrim has stopped responding message" after about five minutes. I had done a stress test before starting this new save and got an amazing FPS boost - I was averaging an amazing 20+ FPS outdoors and a max of 55 FPS indoors. I could definitely deal with the vanilla textures for being able to play! So I started up, managed to get to Whiterun, and am now crashing all over the place. I can only save with quicksave, even pressing ESC crashes the game now. There are no orphaned scripts, I've cleaned everything with T5E, created my Bashed Patch, ran all my SkyProcs, etc. etc. Active Mods• 00 Skyrim.esm• 01 Update.esm• 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]• 03 Dawnguard.esm• 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]• 05 HearthFires.esm• 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]• 07 Dragonborn.esm• 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]• 09 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm• 0A EFFCore.esm• 0B ClimatesOfTamriel.esm• 0C Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm• 0D Campfire.esm• 0E MFVM.esm• 0F ETaC - RESOURCES.esm• 10 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 1.1.2]• 11 DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp• 12 WerewolfUpgrade.esp• 13 AK- Clothe Dead NPCs.esp• 14 JiubQuestMarkers.esp• 15 BetterWhitePhialEffects.esp• 16 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.5]• 17 MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp• 18 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp• 19 No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp• 1A Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp• 1B AHZmoreHUD.esp [Version 2.1.3]• 1C BFSEffects.esp• 1D ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp• 1E UIExtensions.esp• 1F Extended UI.esp [Version 1.2.0d]• 20 Craftable Horse Barding.esp• 21 Disparity.esp [Version 1.45]• 22 ETaC - Complete.esp• 23 Keep Spell Tomes.esp• 24 Footprints.esp• 25 VampireUpgrade.esp• 26 Insignificant Object Remover.esp• 27 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp• 28 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp• 29 FloraRespawnFix.esp• 2A ORM-Arvak.esp• 2B RaceMenuPlugin.esp• 2C Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp• 2D LPBards.esp• 2E LPBardsAnduniel.esp• 2F ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp• 30 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp• 31 RaceMenu.esp• 32 RealisticRoomRental.esp• 33 AOS.esp [Version 2.2DGDB]• 34 Immersive Horses.esp• 35 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp• 36 Traps Are Dangerous.esp• 37 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp• 38 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.0.1]• 39 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp• 3A Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp• 3B Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp [Version 2.3]• 3C Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4]• 3D Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp [Version 2.3]• 3E WondersofWeather.esp• 3F SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp• 40 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp• 41 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp• 42 AOS2_TAD Patch.esp [Version 2.1]• 43 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp• 44 AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp [Version 1.0]• 45 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp [Version 4.9b]• ++ numericalSmithingUpgrades.esp• 46 SeranaLearnsSoulCairnSpells.esp• 47 ShoutsRedragonized.esp• 48 SkyUI.esp• 49 Customizable Camera.esp• 4A Dual Sheath Redux.esp• 4B SkyTweak.esp• 4C Soul Gems Differ - NS.esp• 4D Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2a]• 4E Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp• 4F Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp• 50 LoreWorthyBandits.esp• 51 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp• 52 SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp• 53 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp• 54 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp• 55 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp• 56 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp• 57 StalhrimHeavyShieldsIntegrated.esp• 58 TradeBarter.esp• 59 VioLens.esp [Version 2.0]• 5A Vivid Landscapes.esp• 5B FrostmoonRings.esp• 5C Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp• 5D Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp• 5E Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 2.0.2]• 5F BetterQuestObjectives.esp [Version 1.5.2]• 60 Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0]• 61 SSoB.esp• 62 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp• 63 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp [Version 3.4]• 64 TimingIsEverything.esp• 65 NonEssentialChildren.esp• 66 BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp• 67 Thieves Guild Followers.esp [Version 2.0]• 68 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 3.0]• 69 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a]• 6A ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp• 6B SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp• 6C dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp• 6D Immersive Whiterun.esp• 6E Immersive Solstheim.esp• 6F ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp• 70 WATER DG + DB.esp• 71 ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp• 72 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - DNCL Plugin.esp• 73 Holidays.esp• 74 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp• 75 ETaC - Complete Holidays Patch.esp• 76 Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp• 77 Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp• 78 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp• 79 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.5]• 7A Point The Way.esp [Version 1.0.5]• 7B Word Wall Corrections.esp• 7C UniqueBorderGates-All.esp• 7D dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp• 7E Nightingale Hall.esp• 7F ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp• 80 EFFDialogue.esp• 81 MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp• 82 BetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.esp• 83 ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp• 84 Atlas Legendary OCS.esp• 85 Sleeping Innkeepers.esp [Version 1.0]• 86 ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp• 87 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp• 88 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp• 89 ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp• 8A FarmhouseChimneys.esp• 8B FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp• 8C SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp• 8D Storefront.esp [Version 1.0.5]• 8E Provincial Courier Service.esp [Version 1.2.5]• 8F WATER Plants.esp• 90 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.8]• 91 HoldBorderBanners.esp• 92 DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp• 93 ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp• 94 Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp• 95 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp• 96 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp• 97 Shadowmarks.esp [Version 1.0]• 98 Thief Encounter Fix.esp• 99 CWQuartermasters.esp• 9A dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp• 9B iNeed.esp• 9C Gildergreen Regrown.esp [Version 1.2.6]• 9D DoggyDoors.esp• 9E Equipping Overhaul.esp• 9F PerkusMaximus_Master.esp• A0 PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp• A1 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux_PermaPatch.esp• A2 Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR BoYD Patch.esp• A3 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp• A4 Animated Weapon Enchants.esp• A5 Paralyze.esp• A6 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp• A7 LoreWorthyNettlebane.esp• A8 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp• A9 Dead Body Collision.esp• AA PerMa Weaponry Fillout.esp• AB PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp• AC Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp• AD PerMa_USKP master patch.esp• AE PerMa Headless.esp• AF PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp• B0 NPO Module - Crossbows.esp• B1 True Weapons NPO Crossbows.esp• B2 Pre PaMa CCF Wintermyst Patch.esp• B3 Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.esp [Version 1.3]• B4 PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp• B5 BetterQuestObjectives-PerMaPatch.esp• B6 UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp• B7 ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp• B8 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0]• B9 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp• BA imp_helm_legend.esp• BB Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp• BC Faction Crossbows.esp [Version 1.2.1WAFR]• BD Bard Supplies.esp• ++ Better Claws And Gauntlets - Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp• BE suspiciouscityguards.esp• BF vAutosaveManager.esp• C0 Open Cities Skyrim.esp [Version 1.1.1]• C1 Open Cities Skyrim - 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Noortje Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Sounds like you need to reinstall Skyrim entirely and start working on your mod list from scratch. Edited May 20, 2015 by Noortje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 this one has other miscellaneous problems and can no longer download anything through windows update.This is sometimes caused by damage done while a virus was active on your computer. It modified some of the ligit Windows files to prevent win update so it can't be detected and to make it difficult to remove it. Even after removing the virus, the damage is still left behind. You need to do a Windows reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Xyroca: Try HiAlgoBoost http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15123/? I would also try going without SMIM and other texture mods unless you reduce size of textures. I would also keep scripted mods to a minimum. Your hardware barely meets the recommended to play. Edited May 20, 2015 by MotoSxorpio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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