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Because I've literally searched and tried every possible solution on the internet. From the Nexus to Steam forums to Reddit to other places I've never even heard of until I started getting these CTD's, and nothing has worked.

 

Be warned, this is going to be a wall of text. Skim through it if you need to. I really need help. I'm getting discouraged from playing this game period.

 

I've recently been getting CTD's in the exterior world, only in certain areas deemed "Skyrim" by the game. So far, for the past hour and a half, I'd been testing an area not too far from Markarth, close to Purewater Run. On a previous save, I had CTD's near some Forsworn camp, in the same general area I'm having CTD's now.

 

I've run all the possible loggers and helpers for this game and I still CTD. I just tried using Memory Blocks Log to see if one of the blocks were reaching 256MB. Block 1 reached 193 and Block 2 reached 98 on the last crash I had before I decided to finally post here. I use an ENB and used to use a lot of 4K texture mods, but recently, I had installed the Skyrim Performance Monitor, and I believe I probably was nowhere near my VRAM cap even using those ridiculously high definition texture packs. I used ENBoost as well, as it comes with the most recent version of ENB (.269 I believe), I still crash. I even allotted the max, near max, and allotted a healthy amount of memory in enblocal.ini along with everything else to see if it could be fixed. Nope. Still crashing. Same with when I used the Texture Optimizer. Still crashed.

 

I recently made a test save where I started reinstalling my mods one by one but it's mind-numbing, but it's also my last effort to see what's making me crash. I realized two mods running specific scripts were making my game crash.

 

The first mod was a mod that had a waning and waxing moon. I forget the exact name, but I'd crash at night at any given time, any given place on the map. I didn't even remove it (yet) before I had resolved the issue; I waited until morning and didn't crash, so I removed that mod. Don't even know why a mod like that would make me crash.

 

The second mod was Relighting Skyrim. For some odd reason, near Red Eagle Redoubt, I would crash almost instantly after loading the save. My Papyrus log revealed it was some script with that mod that was causing an error. I didn't even know it had scripts honestly, but I'm not an expert when it comes to actual mod creation, just mod stability. Or at least I thought I was until this kept happening for the past two weeks.

 

Another possible answer to this was save bloat, but that couldn't have been the case. My original save file back from when I had Skyrim installed on a much less powerful computer that almost NEVER had CTD's and probably 20 more mods in the load order reached a max of 11MB. Considering how some people's saves reached almost 200MB, I was kind of surprised at 1.) how big they can get, and 2.) how small mine was, because I always quicksaved, autosaved, and overwrote old saves with that character. I highly doubt it's save bloat because this new character I started hasn't reached 5MB and I just got the quest to get the horn of Jurgen Windcaller. Honestly, it sounds like it's growing too fast, but again, my original character I've had since last summer, and I played about 100 hours with him or more, and he never got over 12MB.

 

Here's the thing, though. That same original save had the night skies mod and the Relighting Skyrim mod installed and I never had an issue with it crashing. Even on this new computer I built, it didn't crash, but suddenly I make a new character and the mods have issues. Either I did have issues (which I'm sure I didn't otherwise I would have posted a thread a while back) and I can't remember, or I didn't have the issues and something's up with my hardware, which is believable. More on that later.

 

This new character I'm speaking of was from a clean save. I don't use any alternate beginning mods, and never will. I don't think my issue has to do anything with "loose scripts" or what have you because again, it's a fresh save, after I deleted all those script oriented mods.

 

I'm clearly not running out of memory of any kind, as it shows with the Performance Monitor and the Blocks Log. I was honestly hoping it was the memory blocks, but I faintly remember using a fix for that and it still crashed.

 

Here's my last Papyrus Log. Hopefully someone can translate this for me, because right now, "error" and "warning" means "Skyrim's about to crash" to me, as I've read on another forum, but I had three errors and multiple warnings on the test save that had no mods installed and it didn't crash.

 

 

[05/11/2015 - 10:40:25PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:25PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:25PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:50PM] warning: Property Alias_USKPDriftshadeSanctuaryReservation on script QF_C00_0004B2D9 attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:50PM] warning: Property Alias_USKPGlenmorilCovenReservation on script QF_C00_0004B2D9 attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:54PM] VM is freezing...
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:54PM] VM is frozen
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:54PM] Reverting game...
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:55PM] warning: Property Alias_USKPDriftshadeSanctuaryReservation on script QF_C00_0004B2D9 attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:40:55PM] warning: Property Alias_USKPGlenmorilCovenReservation on script QF_C00_0004B2D9 attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] Loading game...
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] Cannot open store for class "LightingBallController", missing file?
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] warning: Unable to get type LightingBallController referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] Cannot open store for class "LightingBall", missing file?
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] warning: Unable to get type LightingBall referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] Cannot open store for class "RaceMenuMorphsCBBE", missing file?
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] warning: Unable to get type RaceMenuMorphsCBBE referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] warning: Could not find type LightingBall in the type table in save
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] warning: Could not find type LightingBallController in the type table in save
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:09PM] warning: Could not find type RaceMenuMorphsCBBE in the type table in save
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:10PM] VM is thawing...
[05/11/2015 - 10:41:10PM] InitWidgetLoader()

 

 

Here's another Papyrus Log. This is the one of the test file that had zero mods installed.

 

 

[05/11/2015 - 09:56:59PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[05/11/2015 - 09:56:59PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[05/11/2015 - 09:56:59PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:07PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (04019ACC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (04019ACC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D572) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D572) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D573) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D573) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] VM is freezing...
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:10PM] VM is frozen
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] Reverting game...
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (04019ACC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (04019ACC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D573) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D573) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D572) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D572) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:11PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:14PM] Loading game...
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:14PM] VM is thawing...
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:14PM] DLC2InitCrossDLCScript found: [DLC1VQ01QuestScript <DLC1VQ01 (0200352A)>], [bYOH_QF_BYOHRelationshipAdopt_010042B4 <BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)>]
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:14PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:15PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:29PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:34PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:37PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:40PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:45PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:48PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:56PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:57PM] [DLC2RieklingRescuePlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]OnUpdate() called GotoState(None) so we can register for OnHit events
[05/11/2015 - 09:57:59PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:02PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:04PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:10PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:10PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DD)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:12PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:23PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:29PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:37PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:39PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:45PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:47PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:58:58PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:01PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:09PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:11PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:17PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:20PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:30PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:36PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:41PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:44PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:54PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 09:59:57PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescuePlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]ProcessingHit OnBeginState() Calling RollForRieklings() and RegisterForSingleUpdate() to reset OnHit Event Capture
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescuePlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]ProcessingHit OnBeginState() WasProjectile: False
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescueScript <DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]RollForRieklings()
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescueScript <DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]RollForRieklings() chance: 25.000000, roll: 50.000000
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescuePlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]OnHit() akProjectile: None
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescuePlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]OnHit() akSource: [WEAPON < (000001F4)>]
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:09PM] [DLC2RieklingRescuePlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2RieklingRescue (04038C07)>]OnHit() WasProjectile: False
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:13PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:19PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:43PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:54PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:00:57PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:00PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:09PM] VM is freezing...
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:09PM] VM is frozen
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:09PM] Reverting game...
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (04019ACC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (04019ACC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D573) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D573) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0402710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (04017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (04038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaLocation on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D572) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property DLC2ApocryphaWorld on script dragonactorscript attached to (0401D572) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:10PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (04027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:11PM] Loading game...
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:11PM] VM is thawing...
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:11PM] DLC2InitCrossDLCScript found: [DLC1VQ01QuestScript <DLC1VQ01 (0200352A)>], [bYOH_QF_BYOHRelationshipAdopt_010042B4 <BYOHRelationshipAdoption (030042B4)>]
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:12PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:13PM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:15PM] VM is freezing...
[05/11/2015 - 10:01:15PM] VM is frozen

 

 

 

A log before had something along the lines of "Achievement # unlocked, you are winnar" or something. Don't know what that was, but I CTD'd off of that in the same area (near Purewater Run).

 

My Load Order:

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
EpicElves by zzjay.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp=1
WATER DG.esp=1
BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1
Hvergelmir's Shield Retexture - HSR.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Hvergelmir's Armor Retexture - HAR.esp=1
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
Skyrim Realistic Archery.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
RayeksEnd.esp=1
Light Elven Armor.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
zz_GDRAHoods.esp=1
GDRangerArmor.esp=1

I've used LOOT to sort my load order and use it every time I make a change. I also used TESVEdit to clean the DLC's. I have a compatibility skeleton installed for Realistic Ragdolls and the Belt-Fastened Quivers, but I don't think that's the issue, because I downloaded that compatible skeleton for peace of mind; before I downloaded it I had no problem running those mods together, and even then, I've read that they cause CTD's when looting, or something along those lines.
Lastly, my specs.
Intel i5 2500k @ 3.3GHz (OC'd through BIOS to 4.3GHz)
12GB of DDR3 RAM @ 1600MHz (I think)
120GB SSD (Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit installed here)
Western Digital 500GB HDD @ 7200 RPM (Skyrim installed here, along with LOOT)
XFX Radeon R9 280x w/ 3GB of VRAM (dxdiag reports it's a little over 4GB of VRAM, so I don't know which to believe)
Some aftermarket CPU cooler that I forget the name of, it's one of the better brands
That's pretty much my entire rig. Now earlier I said I'd believe it if it was a hardware issue with my rig and here's why.
When I first built this new computer, I had installed Fallout New Vegas from my older rig, which was an i3 with a Sapphire Radeon 6850. I also played Skyrim for a bit on that same rig, ENB's and 2k textures and all, no FPS drop. It was a pretty damn good card. Could run ANY ENB setting the Nexus had to offer, and did pretty well with framerate, like I said. I built this second rig because I was going to basically build a computer for my sister's birthday using most of not all of the components of the older rig I was using. So I did that and used it as a Grade A excuse to get the 280x I heard so much good about. I got around to getting New Vegas sorted out, and it starts lagging. Hard. FPS was like, .0001. Unplayable. I ended up deleting and reinstalling THE ENTIRE GAME plus the mods I had trying to figure out what it was. Eventually, I figure out the 280x just hates certain ENB settings for New Vegas, no matter what I do. Don't know why, it just does. I found one that I like and it'll stay there until kingdom come. I'm not going through that again.
I get to Skyrim, no problem. I had lower FPS, and I don't know why I did, but I did. Remember, I had near or was at 60 FPS when I was playing Skyrim with all the visual add ons installed while I was using a 6850. I get to the 280x and I get almost half of what I was getting. Finally found an ENB that was performance friendly, and stuck with it. Then I started getting these crashes, like I've been explaining. It's not the ENB, or any ENB for that matter. I've ran this game without an ENB with mods installed and I still have these crashes. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the 280x had some sort of vendetta against Bethesda games, because it rips through every other game I throw at it. Crysis 3 on near Ultra, Battlefield 3 on Very High, near 60FPS. Far Cry 3, no problem. DiRT 3, GRID, Spec Ops: The Line, it's like playing a PSOne game on this. GTA V near Max, 60FPS save for some areas during dusk/at night. You name it. It rips through those games. New Vegas, Skyrim. It just hates those two. I don't know what it is. What makes it weirder is that Fallout 3 will play just fine with anything.

 

I really want to play with some mods installed, more specifically mods that help with character appearance, and an ENB. But if for some reason I can't, then so be it I guess. It's a real shame considering I used to hate Elder Scrolls games, then got attached to this game so quickly.

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Thank you for posting all of that information. I think you and I are in a similar boat:

 

Here

 

I've gone through a bunch of hoops as well, but not quite as many as you. I'll try some of the things you've done to see if there's anything I might have missed.

 

It's truly very strange. Game runs like a champ until I get to this one specific place. It may be just that I haven't found all my "CTD Spots" yet with my current plug-in load-out. I can play many hours without issue usually. Whatever the problem is, it kills the process so rapidly that the logs don't even give a clue.

 

One thing in your post that caught my eye, was about the Red Eagle Redoubt. The EnhancedLights&FX plugin gives me a missing resource error of some kind for that specific "zone' when I try to load & clean it with TES5Edit. Don't know if you're using that one specifically, but I figured it couldn't hurt mentioning it. Most of my stability issues in the past (that I've solved, and weren't ENB issues), have always been lighting & sound mods that were wrongly load-ordered.

 

I wish you luck!

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Try to load all your WATER plugins close to the bottom in your load order and see if that helps.

CTD's can caused by thousand of reasons. But having CTD's only in specific location/situation is mod related. And in most of all cases it's a load order issue.

First the main plugin of WATER, of course.

Below the aditional WATER plugins.

All of them in one block and the block close to the bottom.

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Thank you for posting all of that information. I think you and I are in a similar boat:

 

Here

 

I've gone through a bunch of hoops as well, but not quite as many as you. I'll try some of the things you've done to see if there's anything I might have missed.

 

It's truly very strange. Game runs like a champ until I get to this one specific place. It may be just that I haven't found all my "CTD Spots" yet with my current plug-in load-out. I can play many hours without issue usually. Whatever the problem is, it kills the process so rapidly that the logs don't even give a clue.

 

One thing in your post that caught my eye, was about the Red Eagle Redoubt. The EnhancedLights&FX plugin gives me a missing resource error of some kind for that specific "zone' when I try to load & clean it with TES5Edit. Don't know if you're using that one specifically, but I figured it couldn't hurt mentioning it. Most of my stability issues in the past (that I've solved, and weren't ENB issues), have always been lighting & sound mods that were wrongly load-ordered.

 

I wish you luck!

Ah, I actually read your thread last night before I went to bed. We're pretty much having the same issue. I don't have a problem with the area you specify, but the issue is pretty much the same. As for right now, I use no lighting mods at all, so it can't be that.

 

What I'll do is try what Swamianand suggested and load all of the W.A.T.E.R. .esps at the bottom, in order, and see if that does anything.

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For the past two hours I've been going through the mods one by one and I still keep crashing. W.A.T.E.R. wasn't the issue. This is my current load order:

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp=1
BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=0
Skyrim Realistic Archery.esp=1
Light Elven Armor.esp=1
GDRangerArmor.esp=1
zz_GDRAHoods.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
WATER DG.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1

I just removed Epic Elves to see if that's the problem but I doubt it. I was crashing like this before I installed that mod.
Edit: It APPEARS that the culprit was Immersive Armors. Fingers crossed, though I don't know why it would cause crashes at specific areas. I thought about removing the mod anyway but I just find it really weird.
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