Skyrim bugging out: Experts say mods to blame.

[DoctorFunk]

Recently, Skyrim has started wigging out, and it's gradually getting worse the more I try to fix it. It started with a couple of issues that I still have. FIrst, I was often encountering random NPC's, that had invisible gauntlets, boots, or both. This was kind of funny at first, but seeing the game filled with misfortune cripples soon got annoying and a little depressing. Second, I found that, when equipping some custom helmets , they appeared as either generic Hide helmets, or were just invisible. Their world objects were still correct, and NPC's seemed to wear them just fine. I noticed they all shared a similarity, since each one was some kind of hood, possibly the same model.

 

I was lead to believe this was a problem with archive invalidation, whatever the hell that means in Skyrim's context. I attempted to edit my Skyrim.ini based on a Youtube guide, but this only served to cause my most recent save files to get stuck on loading. However, I could and can still get to them if I load into an older save first. Even restoring the unedited copy didn't help, but it seemed to soon fix itself. Obviously not learning from my mistake, I then tried the Nexus Mod Manager's "reset archive invalidation" option. Once again it achieved nothing except causing my newer saves to stall, and this time it hasn't self-corrected.

 

I'm not sure about the NPC armour, but so far I've had character issues with the Wanderer hood from the Wanderer Curiass, the Dark Alchemist hood and the Ringmail hood from the Armonizer pack, and another I can't recall the name of that I believe is from Hoth's Immersive Armours pack

 

My load order is:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

moonpath.esm

SPIKE.esm

JSwords.esm

The Dragon's Mansion.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

RaceCompatibility.esm

Falskaar.esm

Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm

Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

armored-horses.esp

khajiit-mara.esp

N_43 Hair Pack.esp

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

vagabondarmor.esp

WeaponsOf3E.esp

DwemerRifle.esp

andragorn_weapons.esp

shshortswords.esp

thane's breezehome.esp

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

Populated Cities 2.esp

inebriationmod.esp

ImmersiveCitiesProjectPart2.esp

ACE BYOG.esp

CallingCardFence.esp

LFDarksidersWarSet.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

prometheus_beastskeletons.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

MontyXAddPerkPoints.esp

SkyUI.esp

GypsyEyesCaravan.esp

Derkeethus_fix.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

KobChainmailRobe.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

zabswitchhat.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp

WotA-VaalsarkRace.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Bucklers Only.esp

Wandererarmor.esp

yield.esp

Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

Player Size Adjuster.esp

nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp

Whiterun Mansion NoGS PATCH.esp

AesirArmor.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

The Blades Mansion.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp

MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp

DrSMeadKegPack.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

SkoomaModKidduffah v1.0.esp

DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

d2Helmets.esp

Ghosu - SkullHelmet.esp

Footprints.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Purewaters.esp

PurewatersDG.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

SkyrimURWL.esp

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

CinematicFireFX.esp

BFSEffects.esp

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

RayeksEnd.esp

DA_Skyship.esp

Dragon Falls Manor.esp

UseAllTheHairStyles.esp

WayOfTheMonk.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

StrayKhajiitFollower.esp

RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

Dorak.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp

DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dawnguard.esp

Raptor Talon Argonians.esp

DigitigradeKhajiit.esp

LykaiosRace.esp

KS_beastHairlite_27.esp

DragonianRace.esp

3DNPC.esp

Inigo.esp

Scarves! Skyrim Edition!.esp

NoPsychicLockKnowledge.esp

No Empty Tag on Containers.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp

SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp

Reduced Firewood Weight.esp

Smelter_Riften & Solitude.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

ReProccer.esp

[vram1974]

Do you use Mod Organizer? Chances are you have overwritten files that are causing the invisibility glitch.

 

Alternately, you may just need to verify files from Steam.

[DoctorFunk]

Do you use Mod Organizer? Chances are you have overwritten files that are causing the invisibility glitch.

 

Alternately, you may just need to verify files from Steam.

I don't use the Mod Organizer. I've given LOOT a try, but it hasn't had an effect. It seems that one of the items, the Dark Alchemist hood, is a "head" item but is being considered as a separate. I can wear another helmet at the same time, which I only noticed now. It could either be a new development or an older one, so I'm going to look into that. I did verify the cache files, to no avail.

 

Thanks for the advice

Edited June 25, 2015 by DoctorFunk

[KirbonatedBeverage]

it's probably your load order. All of the DLC and Unofficial patchs have to be loaded first before all of your mods. and makesure all the HighResTexturePack esps don't have mods in between them, because that can cause alot of graphical errors.

[DoctorFunk]

it's probably your load order. All of the DLC and Unofficial patchs have to be loaded first before all of your mods. and makesure all the HighResTexturePack esps don't have mods in between them, because that can cause a lot of graphical errors.

The load order isn't causing any overt problems, so I'm not sure where to look or what to look for in the TES5edit logs. I figure LOOT would help, to some degree. All of those things are covered, though.