Constant Skyrim CTD. Possibly corruption.

[Ru5tyShackleford]

My game is getting a lot of CTDs when I load saves, fast travel, and sometimes just saving in game. I think it might be save game corruption I try to revert to older saves and that seems to help for a little bit but it always comes back.

 

Some specs:

Processor: Intel® Core i5-4460 CPU@ 3.20GHz 3.20GHz

8 GB of installed memory

Operating system: 64-bit OS, x64-based processor

448 free 900 GB of space left

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GT 720 grahics card (I think this is it)

 

in gameplay My skyrim usually runs in the mid-high 30s to low-high 50s when outdoors and about 30s or lower in cities. I don't really know if my CPU is any good, i would also like to know that.

 

My game is in the steam directory, on the most recent skyrim legendary edition, I use Mod Organizer, I use SKSE version 1.9.32 and use LOOT to sort my load order. I do have Tes5Edit and need to get Wyre Bash.

 

Loot Log:

 

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• Skyrim.esm
  CRC: C665FD56
• Update.esm
  CRC: E5B67BDA
  C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev
  • Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
• Dawnguard.esm
  CRC: BD72CCF3
  C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound
  • Warning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
• HearthFires.esm
  CRC: AF82CE6A
  C.Location, Graphics, Invent
  • Warning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
• Dragonborn.esm
  CRC: A9F83BFF
  C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names
  • Warning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
• DragonEngine2.esp
  CRC: 8E637764
• tos_laintardale_hf.esp
  CRC: E536DE07
  • Warning: Contains 13 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.

Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.1 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 0fccceef6 Masterlist Date 2015-07-19

Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 6 Dirty Plugins 5 Total Plugins 7 Warnings 5 Errors 0 Total Messages 9

General Messages

• Note: There have been no changes in the Details tab since LOOT was last run for this game.
• Note: A new release of LOOT is available.
• Note: Latest LOOT thread.
• Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

Hide Version Numbers
Hide CRCs
Hide Bash Tag Suggestions
Hide Notes
Hide 'Do Not Clean' Messages
Hide Inactive Plugin Messages
Hide All Plugin Messages
Hide Messageless Plugins

Plugins hidden: 0 / 7

Messages hidden: 0 / 9

 

 

 

 

 

I think that is all. Please let me know if I left anything out, or you need any more info. Thank you for any suggestions or help.

 

EDIT- My load order:

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

TsaesciRace.esm

DERDeepElfRace.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

SkyUI.esp

-Stickier_Arrows- Fix.esp

DawnofSolitude.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Reanimate FX.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

DragonEngine2.esp

MoreBrains.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Supreme Fog.esp

Supreme Storms.esp

Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

JKs Towns.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Coins.esp

Better Docks All in One - No Dawnstar.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp

CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

Waves.esp

Holidays.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Immersive Armors.esp

JKs Windhelm.esp

HOPv - Horses On Patrol - Vanilla.esp

SOTGenesisMod.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

GenesisSICPatch2.esp

Skaven Encounters.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp

CampsAndShipwrecks.esp

DawnofWhiterun.esp

Windhelm Barracks Interior Overhall.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

JKs Solitude.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

JKs Riften.esp

Immersive Dawnstar.esp

DawnofRiften.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

FaceMasksforNPC.esp

LegionArmorVarietyOPTIONAL3.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

NecromancerMask.esp

Immersive Riverwood.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Various Hunter.esp

JKs Whiterun DofW Comp.esp

BetterDwemerExteriors.esp

HOP - Horses On Patrol - Dawnguard.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

JKs Markarth.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

Immersive Falkreath.esp

OH GOD BEES.esp

The Blackest Reaches.esp

Twawand.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

dawnguard sentries.esp

Immersive Rorikstead.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

Sincar Barrens.esp

JaxonzUtilities.esp

Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged.esp

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

Immersive Morthal.esp

Seagulls.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp

gonkishvampdens.esp

Immersive Ivarstead.esp

02_solstheim_extended.esp

JUSTICE - City Exteriors.esp

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp

Immersive Shors stone.esp

OldHroldanRuins.esp

Signs_of_Skyrim.esp

Immersive Karthwasten.esp

stendarrsbeaconenhanced.esp

vargr.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp

DawnofMarkarth.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp

Better City Entrances - All in one.esp

Catsofskyrim.esp

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp

GreaterSaarthal.esp

Dogsofskyrim.esp

Extended Encounters.esp

HHoS Subterranean Hot Spring.esp

HOPo - Horses On Patrol - Extra Orcs.esp

middenexpanded.esp

ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp

Gehenoth.esp

WoollyRhino.esp

Fish Market Rustic.esp

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

Imperious - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

Post_PatchusMaximus_GiantsAIFix.esp

HHoS Ancient Shrine.esp

PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

BreastlessArgonianfemalesDawnguardDragonborn.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dragonborn.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dawnguard.esp

DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp

PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

Post PatchusMaximus Perma Mods and Tweaks.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

MoreShipwrecksV1_3.esp

iNeed.esp

sturmcloakarmorvarietyremo.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

NedhegothTheButcher.esp

smfArena1.8.esp

GPFood.esp

CreatureSizeVariants.esp

WayshrinesIFT.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp

Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp

Skyrim Better Bridges - Whiterun.esp

Skyrim Better Roads - Ivarstead.esp

Skyrim Better Roads - Solitude.esp

Skyrim Better Roads - Whiterun.esp

Point The Way.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

Undeath.esp

LPBards.esp

arnima.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

WondersofWeather.esp

Frost Giants in the Cold.esp

RealisticNights.esp

RealisticNightsDB.esp

RealisticNightsDG.esp

Ancient Draugr Shield.esp

Footprints.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

vAutosaveManager.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp

Myownsolitudeimprovements.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

tos_oakwood_hf.esp

zabswitchhat.esp

SloadCompanion.esp

Dark Playable Skeletons.esp

Extra Playable Skeletons.esp

Playable Draugr.esp

Immersive Playable Rieklings.esp

Playable Spriggan.esp

Playable Lurker.esp

Playable Dlc Spriggans.esp

Playable Flame Atronach.esp

Playable Frost Atronach.esp

Playable Giants1.3.esp

Playable Giants1.5.esp

Playable Giants1.8.esp

Playable Trolls.esp

Playable AshSpawn.esp

Dwemer Beards.esp

DwemerOutfit.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

Snow Elf Race.esp

EvolvedFalmer.esp

RaceSymbolShield.esp

SlingshotInSkyrim.esp

HorsesGoneWild.esp

Animallica.esp

Prides of Skyrim.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp

Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp

Skytest Animallica.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

Steel Crossbow Encounters.esp

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

posesivecorpses.esp

Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp

Headtracking.esp

Edited September 9, 2015 by RustyShackleford69

[Isys1991]

Well I can't tell you anything specific but what I can tell you is that you should update your LOOT and clean those dirty edits in DLC files with TES5Edit. You have Gopher's tutorials on both (LOOT and TES5Edit) on Youtube.

Have you been installing and removing mods that are using scripts in your current playthrough? Because if you have it's probably a cause of your troubles. Skyrim's scripts are a little bastards who'll remain in your save game even after you've uninstalled a mod and then break your game after some time. Not all of them of course but...

Did you check your save files size in Documents/My Games/Skyrim/Saves to see if your save game is bloated maybe due to the running remaining scripts? They should't be above 12-14mb probably, and that is in a late game, not early.

Also, that is a good processor, I also have it combined with the 290 and it's working fine :smile:

Edited September 8, 2015 by Isys1991

[jones177]

Your cpu is fine for skyrim. Your GPU is holding you back.

 

Later

[Ru5tyShackleford]

Thank you for the replies!

 

I will try cleaning the DLCs as soon as I have the time. The character that has recently had the problems is an old one so I should probably see how things work with a new character, Its possible I may have gotten or removed some mods I shouldn't. I will try to be back with the results asap.

[Ru5tyShackleford]

Okay, I have tried making a new character, but the eventual corruption/broken save game problem still happened. Didn't even make it to level two....

I still need to try cleaning my masters and see if that helps. However, I cannot find my save game files in the Steam/Steamapps/common/skyrim area.

Is this because I use Mod Organizer, and if so how do see my save sizes. Also, can Papyrus show anything that may be causing problems and if so, are there any tutorials for this with MO?

Edited September 9, 2015 by RustyShackleford69

[mg88]

You'll find the save files in \Documents\My Games\skyrim\Saves

[Isys1991]

There are great tutorials about MO on youtube made by Gopher, there are a lot of great tutorials made by him for Skyrim modding.

The cause of your CTDs, freezes and infinite loading screens, if you get those, could also be because you're hitting the cap of the Skyrim memory block (it's only 256mb by default). If you don't know what I'm talking about watch this video. This could help you a lot actually.

[Nazralte]

Without a proper mod list it's hard to tell what may be the cause. Like Isys said before, it sounds like you should watch that video. Also look into a mod called Safety Load. It really helps with the freezes and crashes in the loading screens.

[MotoSxorpio]

Dragon Engine REQUIRES Race Menu mod, which is not present in LOOT listing. Install Race Menu, and its requirements, then reinstall Dragon Engine. Run LOOT, reorganize load order according to LOOT suggestions, get Wrye Bash and Build a Bashed Patch. Read through optional files for Race Menu and Dragon Engine for dated fixes and patches.

 

Big letters on the Dragon Engine description:

 

Requirements

• Skyrim
• SKSE
• Racemenu 3.0 or higher

You might also get Unofficial patches.

[Ru5tyShackleford]

This is my load order:

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

TsaesciRace.esm

DERDeepElfRace.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

SkyUI.esp

-Stickier_Arrows- Fix.esp

DawnofSolitude.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Reanimate FX.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

DragonEngine2.esp

MoreBrains.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Supreme Fog.esp

Supreme Storms.esp

Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

JKs Towns.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Coins.esp

Better Docks All in One - No Dawnstar.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp

CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

Waves.esp

Holidays.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Immersive Armors.esp

JKs Windhelm.esp

HOPv - Horses On Patrol - Vanilla.esp

SOTGenesisMod.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

GenesisSICPatch2.esp

Skaven Encounters.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp

CampsAndShipwrecks.esp

DawnofWhiterun.esp

Windhelm Barracks Interior Overhall.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

JKs Solitude.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

JKs Riften.esp

Immersive Dawnstar.esp

DawnofRiften.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

FaceMasksforNPC.esp

LegionArmorVarietyOPTIONAL3.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

NecromancerMask.esp

Immersive Riverwood.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Various Hunter.esp

JKs Whiterun DofW Comp.esp

BetterDwemerExteriors.esp

HOP - Horses On Patrol - Dawnguard.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

JKs Markarth.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

Immersive Falkreath.esp

OH GOD BEES.esp

The Blackest Reaches.esp

Twawand.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

dawnguard sentries.esp

Immersive Rorikstead.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

Sincar Barrens.esp

JaxonzUtilities.esp

Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged.esp

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

Immersive Morthal.esp

Seagulls.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp

gonkishvampdens.esp

Immersive Ivarstead.esp

02_solstheim_extended.esp

JUSTICE - City Exteriors.esp

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp

Immersive Shors stone.esp

OldHroldanRuins.esp

Signs_of_Skyrim.esp

Immersive Karthwasten.esp

stendarrsbeaconenhanced.esp

vargr.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp

DawnofMarkarth.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp

Better City Entrances - All in one.esp

Catsofskyrim.esp

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp

GreaterSaarthal.esp

Dogsofskyrim.esp

Extended Encounters.esp

HHoS Subterranean Hot Spring.esp

HOPo - Horses On Patrol - Extra Orcs.esp

middenexpanded.esp

ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp

Gehenoth.esp

WoollyRhino.esp

Fish Market Rustic.esp

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

Imperious - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

Post_PatchusMaximus_GiantsAIFix.esp

HHoS Ancient Shrine.esp

PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

BreastlessArgonianfemalesDawnguardDragonborn.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dragonborn.esp

Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dawnguard.esp

DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp

PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

Post PatchusMaximus Perma Mods and Tweaks.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

MoreShipwrecksV1_3.esp

iNeed.esp

sturmcloakarmorvarietyremo.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

NedhegothTheButcher.esp

smfArena1.8.esp

GPFood.esp

CreatureSizeVariants.esp

WayshrinesIFT.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp

Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp

Skyrim Better Bridges - Whiterun.esp

Skyrim Better Roads - Ivarstead.esp

Skyrim Better Roads - Solitude.esp

Skyrim Better Roads - Whiterun.esp

Point The Way.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

Undeath.esp

LPBards.esp

arnima.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

WondersofWeather.esp

Frost Giants in the Cold.esp

RealisticNights.esp

RealisticNightsDB.esp

RealisticNightsDG.esp

Ancient Draugr Shield.esp

Footprints.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

vAutosaveManager.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp

Myownsolitudeimprovements.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

tos_oakwood_hf.esp

zabswitchhat.esp

SloadCompanion.esp

Dark Playable Skeletons.esp

Extra Playable Skeletons.esp

Playable Draugr.esp

Immersive Playable Rieklings.esp

Playable Spriggan.esp

Playable Lurker.esp

Playable Dlc Spriggans.esp

Playable Flame Atronach.esp

Playable Frost Atronach.esp

Playable Giants1.3.esp

Playable Giants1.5.esp

Playable Giants1.8.esp

Playable Trolls.esp

Playable AshSpawn.esp

Dwemer Beards.esp

DwemerOutfit.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

Snow Elf Race.esp

EvolvedFalmer.esp

RaceSymbolShield.esp

SlingshotInSkyrim.esp

HorsesGoneWild.esp

Animallica.esp

Prides of Skyrim.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp

Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp

Skytest Animallica.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

Steel Crossbow Encounters.esp

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

posesivecorpses.esp

Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp

Headtracking.esp

 

 

 

The dragon engine is currently disabled in my load order, but I still keep Racemenu active. I checked out the gopher video (The memory Patches) I already use SSME and Safetyload but not the SKSE.ini however when I make one myself it doesn't seem to work or at least doesn't help at all.