Aziara Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I've been having invisible torsos on my briarhearts for quite some time now. I finally disabled all my mods to attempt to figure out the problem. And while I've seen several people say that it's only an interaction between USKP and Cloaks of Skyrim, I don't have Cloaks of Skyrim.The problem?EVERY SINGLE unofficial patch!! Not just the Skyrim patch, but also the Hearthfire, Dawnguard, Dragonborn, AND even the high resolution patch causes the briarheart's torso to disappear.In fact, just disabling them wasn't enough--I had to get a mod that gives the briarhearts a new skin, because even with no mods running, the torso was gray (similar to the way the gray-face bug looks, but the body instead of the head. The head was normal). I even extracted the texture from Skyrim itself, and it was gray (WTF).I can't imagine running my game without the patches (hello, massive glitches), so how would I go about fixing this problem?I'm just about to open up the patches in TES5edit and start deleting anything related to briarhearts...But I don't want to break the patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcat221 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Blame not USKP, but whatever else is interfering with the briarhearts. USKP fixes the gray body, and also does a fix that doesn't make any bloodstains on the body disappear by only causing the removal of the heart seed bit instead of the whole body swapping when you pull the heartseed. If you are unaware of another mod that alters the Briarhearts, then that would be the cause. TES5Edit would reveal the culprit as well. In any case where it looks like USKP is the culprit, it probably isn't, and for us on the UPP team to seriously consider USKP or its DLC expansions to be at fault, evidence needs to be presented (not "looks like it" but "verifiably is it"). And I do hope you weren't making any saves you intended to keep with the Patches removed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziara Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Well, I narrowed it down to only the skyrim patch.And no, all testing was done on brand new games, I don't intend to keep any of them.How could another mod be affecting the briarhearts when everything was disabled?? I even dug around in my data folder to make sure there wasn't any files related to briarhearts.I finally just bit the bullet and opened the patch in TES5Edit and removed every briarheart reference. Now I can run the patch without the briarhearts being invisible.The bloodstains disappearing is a small price to pay vs. the invisible torso bug.I now have all my mods active again, and the briarhearts look great. So I don't think anything else was affecting them.At this point, I'm going to leave a safe save, (back when I hadn't altered the patch), just in case deleting the references causes some massive damage or something. I can always uninstall and reinstall I suppose if there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jannifer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Personally, I might have tried verifying my game cache through Steam before making edits to USKP. I run all the Unofficial Patches, and the only time I had weirdness with briarhearts was when I had a male body mod installed. Also, be aware that disabling a mod doesn't always negate any changes it made. Mods which have no .esps, such as certain mesh and texture mods, are still active as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziara Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Verifying the game cache was the first thing I tried.Sorry if my first post sounded a little spastic. I'd been searching for the problem for 3 days straight, and I never thought it could be USKP. That just about made my brain explode. I didn't want to believe it either.As far as mesh or texture mods, the only retextures I have are related to armor, architecture, or animals. Fairly certain none of those were interacting with briarhearts.What I'm thinking is there is some undocumented interaction, sort of like how Cloaks of Skyrim (which I don't have) clashes with USKP. Here's my load order. Please note I only got the briarheart retextures AFTER the problems started as a fix. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 3 3 Dawnguard.esm 4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 5 5 HearthFires.esm 6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 7 7 Dragonborn.esm 8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 9 9 Falskaar.esm10 a Wyrmstooth.esp11 b LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm12 c Gray Fox Cowl.esm13 d UnlimitedBookshelves.esp14 e Real Feeding V3.esp15 f RealisticNightsDB.esp16 10 SeranaLearnsSoulCairnSpells.esp17 11 DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp18 12 mjhSkyforgeWolfArmor.esp19 13 RealisticNightsDG.esp20 14 RealShelter.esp21 15 StormcloakMageArmor.esp22 16 GDRangerDress.esp23 17 Craftable Khajiit Earrings Gold and Silver.esp24 18 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp25 19 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp26 1a DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp27 1b Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp28 1c Werewolf Bleedout Fix.esp29 1d Improved Arvak (no spell change).esp30 1e armoured arvak.esp31 1f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp32 20 GamEngagementrings.esp33 21 DeadlyAimRanks.esp34 22 DovahBlingBraceletsScr.esp35 23 StormWrathLightning.esp36 24 Convenient Horses.esp37 25 shadowmere.esp38 26 UIExtensions.esp39 27 SkyUI.esp40 28 Enchanting Pagan Table.esp41 29 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp42 2a LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp43 2b AllHair.esp44 2c SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp45 2d Haunting & Mourning.esp46 2e HousecarlsAreTanks.esp47 2f dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp48 30 RealisticNights.esp49 31 Keep Spell Tomes.esp50 32 Shout Like a Dragon - DG & DB.esp51 33 Ezuka's Wedding Rings.esp52 34 MorePP.esp53 35 ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp54 36 JiubQuestMarkers.esp55 37 Predator Vision.esp56 38 HousecarlsAreTanks-HF.esp57 39 Really Radiant Raiment.esp58 3a RevengeOfIronDaggersAndLeatherBracersv5.esp59 3b Khajiit Claws - 15dmg.esp60 3c Slap.esp61 3d StormcloakMageArmorRetex.esp62 3e CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp63 3f RSPatch.esp64 40 Brawl Bugs CE.esp65 41 CMWoodenBows.esp66 42 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp67 43 3DNPC.esp68 44 HearthfireMultiKid.esp69 45 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp70 46 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp71 47 EntireEyes.esp72 48 Ezuka's First Person Ring Fix.esp73 49 SovngardeNordHeroes.esp74 4a DovahBlingJewelryUniques.esp75 4b Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp76 4c CritterProduce.esp77 4d MoreSalt.esp78 4e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp79 4f Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp80 50 Civil War Aftermath.esp81 51 Helgen Reborn.esp82 52 RavenRockExpanded.esp83 53 LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp84 54 SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp85 55 ESFCompanions.esp86 56 One With Nature - DG+DB.esp87 57 WitchhunterPackRelease1.0.esp88 58 Deer_And_Elk_Detection.esp89 59 Civil War Overhaul.esp90 5a ArmyReforms.esp91 5b OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp92 5c Solstheim - The Lost Levels.esp93 5d sam aldous.esp94 5e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp95 5f AnnaNPCs.esp96 60 HigherSilverDamage_Vanilla.esp97 61 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp98 62 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp99 63 marriagemod - alpha v3.esp100 64 fmstables.esp101 65 ArcheryDummyXP.esp102 66 eelRing.esp103 67 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp104 68 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp105 69 ASKETMODSFiFaI0.2.31.1fv.esp106 6a EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp107 6b GerheardtRoriksteadEN.esp108 6c SUM_DruidConjuration.esp109 6d Better Claws And Gauntlets - Immersive Armors.esp110 6e Inigo.esp111 6f SeranaDialogEdit.esp112 70 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp113 71 NothingSellsForZero.esp114 72 Swift Steeds Frost.esp115 73 Immersive Weapons.esp116 74 Elemental Destruction.esp117 75 LinearSmithing.esp118 76 Better Mage.esp119 77 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp120 78 MarkRecall.esp121 79 MorrowindImports.esp122 7a Inconsequential NPCs.esp123 7b Armored Circlets.esp124 7c SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp125 7d Point The Way.esp126 7e InteractiveWashBasinsCOMPLETE.esp127 7f Bathing in Skyrim - Interactive Wash Basins.esp128 80 My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp129 81 ANSKA ENHANCED.esp130 82 Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp131 83 Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dragonborn.esp132 84 Better Claws And Gauntlets - Dawnguard.esp133 85 Blacksmiths Sell Firewood.esp134 86 Dr_Bandolier.esp135 87 Unique Uniques.esp136 88 UsefulDogs.esp137 89 Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp138 8a Vampirism Inverter.esp139 8b ImmersiveStables.esp140 8c HSxHorseStablingImmersiveStables.esp141 8d Various Hunter.esp142 8e LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp143 8f Townoverhaul.esp144 90 HSxHorseStablingCities+HF.esp145 91 DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp146 92 Bring Out Your Dead.esp147 93 OvensAndChurnsPlayerHouses.esp148 94 DBM_IW_Patch.esp149 95 konahrik_accoutrements.esp150 96 ArcheryDummyXP - Unofficial DLC Addon.esp151 97 Dragonborn - Dorethi.esp152 98 LadyKdCirclets.esp153 99 DragonFastTravelRedone.esp154 9a OvensAndChurnsMain.esp155 9b Aurlyn.esp156 9c Lakeview Lost Gardens.esp157 9d PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp158 9e BR_HoodCirclets.esp159 9f DA_Skyship.esp160 a0 DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp161 a1 ForgottenCity.esp162 a2 Chesko_Frostfall.esp163 a3 Torcs.esp164 a4 Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp165 a5 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp166 a6 WondersofWeather.esp167 a7 ArgonianFins.esp168 a8 Argonian Skill Bonuses Improved.esp169 a9 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp170 aa CACO_USKP_Patch.esp171 ab CACO_Bathing in Skyrim.esp172 ac BowsElementalFury.esp173 ad forswornpaint.esp174 ae mintylightningmod.esp175 af TrueStorms.esp176 b0 RealShelterFF.esp177 b1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp178 b2 SVPaleVampires.esp179 b3 Yield 2.0.esp180 b4 forsworngear.esp181 b5 HothFollower.esp182 b6 SofiaFollower.esp183 b7 CarryOnSkyrimBenAsFollowerV2.2.esp184 b8 Oysters of Skyrim.esp185 b9 The Pit.esp186 ba GreaterSaarthal.esp187 bb SkyrimGuardians.esp188 bc Civil War Followers.esp189 bd BelrandHaircut.esp190 be OvensAndChurnsMinorInns.esp191 bf DJZ Cooking Pots.esp192 c0 LPBards.esp193 c1 LPBardsAnduniel.esp194 c2 CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp195 c3 NavMeshFix - Markarth.esp196 c4 Draugnarok.esp197 c5 Hunterborn.esp198 c6 bound-hunting-knife.esp199 c7 Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp200 c8 Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp201 c9 Derkeethus Improved - Default Look.esp202 ca CACO_Hunterborn_Patch.esp203 cb CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp204 cc CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp205 cd NoSameSex ENG.esp206 ce OrcHearthfire.esp207 cf CityShrines.esp208 d0 HoldBorderBanners.esp209 d1 DBM_IA_Patch.esp210 d2 ESFAela.esp211 d3 Earrings Set1.esp212 d4 ArtOfTheCatch.esp213 d5 konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp214 d6 KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp215 d7 Colored_Dragonscale_v1.esp216 d8 KhajiitChildren.esp217 d9 PahmarFollowers.esp218 da Gildergreen Regrown.esp219 db Wolf Master.esp220 dc KORsHuntingGround.esp221 dd HatchlingChasesStarlight.esp222 de ImpRogue.esp223 df My Home Is Your Home.esp224 e0 DDD-Passtime.esp225 e1 GypsyEyesCaravan.V.3.esp226 e2 UniqueRadiantAndPartyClothes.esp227 e3 Convenient Horse Herding.esp228 e4 RafForswornCustomArmorSet.esp229 e5 RafBriarheartArmorCustomReplacer.esp230 e6 Nature Spell Pack.esp231 e7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp232 e8 Automatic Variants.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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