Has anyone ever played all the way through with full load order?

[yudhi108]

A lot of people who add lots of mods to Skyrim are not interested in actually playing the game all the way through. I, however, do want to play all the way through with a full load order. I've been experimenting with mods for years and still haven't found a combination that doesn't mess something up.

I put over a hundred hours into my last game and the mods seemed to be working great! I played a ton of side quests, leveled up to level 100, played the main storyline til I got dragonrend, and then I decided it was time to do the dragonborn DLC. I had gotten the letter from the cultist but when I went to the boat to take me to Solstein no one would talk to me. Pressing E, or A (on xbox conroller) did not initiate any conversation like it was supposed to.

Dragonborn is often a DLC that gets broken for me when modding. I've seen it get messed up in many ways on many modded skyrim builds. Dawnguard also gets messed up but it doesn't bother me as much because I don't play DG very often. I do however like to play DB every time I play the game.

Anyways, anyone got ideas? Has anyone played all the way through DB DLC and the storyline with full mod load order and other mods with no problem?

I've asked this question on other forums (dif web pages), and everyone says the DB and DG almost always get broken or something else in game gets broken. I've only ever found one person who claimed to have played all the way through the game including the DLC's with a full load order, but this person admited it took a lot of script editing and mod editing to get it done. Said an ordinary gamer would not have been able to do what he did.

EDIT: Several people on Nexus are saying they've played all the way through Skyrim and DLC's with full load out with no problems, but I'm doubtful still (hoping to be proven wrong though). This is contrary to what I've heard on other forums. If you have really played all the way through with a full(ish) load order and still have said load order available for viewing, please post your load order so I can try to replicate or check vs my load orders. I've specifically not included my load order because I want this to be general, but if you have something that works, that's specific enough to warrant a full load order post. If I can get some load orders that work I'll spend some more months modding and trying to figure out where I went wrong. PLEASE post any working load orders you might have if they are FULL load outs and work with full Skyrim game PLUS DLC's!

Also, you may notice some adult mods in my list, but I assure you I tested this setup BEFORE adding even one single LL/adult mod and the result is exactly the same as it is now, with the adult mods... DLC's are broken. So please don't just comment on the fact that there's adult mods. I didn't even mean to post the load order with adult mods, and didn't mean to mention LL on this thread at all because I didn't want to take away from solving the problem of finding ANY full load order that works. I've already posted on the LL forums and they say the DLC's are always getting broken and the only person who did a full playthrough had done tons of mod editing and script editing to make it work (stuff your average gamer is not gunna be able to do).

Had left out my load order originally in the interest of keeping this thread general, but here's my load order in case anyone wants to see it or is curious...

LOAD ORDER:

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

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Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

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Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Falskaar.esm=1

Wyrmstooth.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

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SPERG.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

Campfire.esm=1

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Extra Encounters Reborn - Basic.esm=1

SummerWear.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

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HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

SPERG.esp=1

SPERG-DB.esp=1

SPERG-DG.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

DeadlyMonsters.esp=1

DraugrShoutFix.esp=1

Rebirth Monster.esp=1

High Level Enemies.esp=1

High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp=1

PermaZONESLegendaryHardcore.esp=1

Combat Evolved.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

ELFXEnhancer.esp=1

MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp=1

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OBIS.esp=1

OBISDB.esp=1

High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp=1

Animal Tweaks.esp=1

High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

DeadlyCombat.esp=1

DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp=1

UltimateCombat.esp=1

RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1

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Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp=1

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ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1

TrueStorms.esp=1

mintylightningmod.esp=1

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AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1

TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp=1

TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp=1

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CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

HDT Havok Object.esp=1

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DemonHunter_Scarf.esp=1

DemonHunterV2armor.esp=1

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1

Ehildils Mithril Armors.esp=1

EdhildilsWitchDoctor.esp=1

AlynShirArmor.esp=1

Ballet Boots.esp=1

Gatti12Jewelry.esp=1

DarkStandalone.esp=1

TGLNordArmor.esp=1

Athletics Training.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

Bucklers-Complete.esp=1

CannabisUpdate.esp=1

Realistic crime report radius.esp=1

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1

DragonPlateBrazen.esp=1

ElementalArrows.esp=1

Henrys Ring of Light.esp=1

Latex Armor.esp=1

MasterEnchanter.esp=1

Magicka Sabers.esp=1

MegaShields.esp=1

ps_circlet.esp=1

SacredRingofJeebus.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp=1

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp=1

ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow) +150%.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

TriRings of Powers v1.0.esp=1

TGBowsDrawFasterv2-0.esp=1

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1

Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp=1

SMEssentialPlayer.esp=1

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Headtracking.esp=1

Zipsuit.esp=1

AnnaNPCs.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

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SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1

Purewaters.esp=1

CinematicFireFX.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

fallentreebridges.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp=1

Spriggan Armor 2.esp=1

JaxonzEnhGrab.esp=1

TERA Weapons.esp=1

ScopedBows.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

WWW.esp=1

Celestine.esp=1

TKcombat.esp=1

Northborn Fur Hoods.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1

ShadowCatArmor.esp=1

CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=1

Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1

Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp=1

Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

EnchantedItemsCheat.esp=1

Extreme amount of enchantments.esp=1

BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp=1

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp=1

XPMSE.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Unlimited Training.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1

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SexLab Cumshot.esp=1

SexLab Submit.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

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SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1

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Extra Encounters Reborn - CSP.esp=1

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SL Sleeping Necro.esp=1

CerwidenCompanion.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

Frostfall.esp=1

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1

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RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1

CommunityCollege.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1

SummerWearSA.esp=1

Extended Encounters.esp=1

Hunterborn.esp=1

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp=1

Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp=1

Sneak Tools.esp=1

Nicoroshi Creations.esp=1

Gifts of Akatosh.esp=1

SummonsLion.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp=1

Cannabis.esp=1

Instant Merchant.esp=1

SkyDreamMerMaids.esp=1

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1

Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

Extra Encounters Reborn - Dawnguard.esp=1

elementalshield.esp=1

Ish's Souls to Perks.esp=1

thu'um infinium.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp=1

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1

NordicCooking_RND.esp=1

Armored_Rings1.esp=1

sextoys-calyps-2.esp=1

Darklilith.esp=1

Elewin Sunglasses.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp=1

R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp=1

KCEAssaultRifles.esp=1

Monli.esp=1

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1

Millepon_Follower.esp=1

Golden Rings Of Craft.esp=1

BDBigCats.esp=1

Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp=1

Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp=1

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp=1

Loadout.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

SOSRaceMenu.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

ASIS-Dependency.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

ASIS.esp=1

DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp=1

EDIT: I tested this Load Order without the LL mods too, and had the same problem with the DLC's. Also, I always test on a new save.

No one posted any load orders of load outs that work. Makes me skeptical that a good one exists. Thanks for all the replies though.

[csbx]

I had zero issues with dragonborn my last run-through, but I only run about 190 mods with no perk overhauls, no encounter mods; and I don't use Requiem. The only reason I don't run these kinds of overhauls is because I'm afraid of having things deeply wrong with the game that I'll only start to notice at level 20.

 

You use USLEEP I presume ? Have you used TES5edit to see what mod is touching the DLCs in weird ways ?

[yudhi108]

I dunno what USLEEP is. I use TES5Edit for cleaning mods, but no idea how to use it to check what mod might be touching the DLC's in weird ways.

 

THIS THREAD is what I used as a guide for difficulty mods this time, though I've tried other combinations as well.

 

You don't use any difficulty mods? Any chance you could post your load order?

 

EDIT: I looked up USLEEP. I have the Unofficial Skyrim and DLC patches, but do not use USLEEP. This is the first time I've heard of it.

[smoky0mcpot]

I have done a couple of playthroughs with a high number of mods on each occasion ( at least 200 mods ) and at the moment i have just over 245 including quite a few mods from LL. I have always had some sort of problem crop up every now and then but nothing that has ever broken my game or the DLC and nothing i haven't been able to fix by searching online or using the console commands and to be honest problems are to be expected when you have that many mods.

 

I would suggest you try and do what i do and leave as many of the quest and new lands mods as possible deactivated and only activate them when you are ready to play them.

 

Also remember to save your game a lot and don't be afraid to have 30 40 even 50 saves going back tens even hundreds of hours just in case.

I use this mod for my saves

AutoSave manager

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34842/?

 

One other thing i would like to point out is that i don't clean or do anything to the mods i have at all and in my opinion it is completely unnecessary and it has not stopped me putting over 1000 hours in to a single playthrough.

[jones177]

I have gone through with 250+ mods several times. I don't switch any of them off & I don't clean them.

 

I take precautions before encountering an event (saving). Reloading fixes issues 20% of the time. Switching off the game & reloading fixes issues 99% of the time. This fixes all my issues with DB but not with Dawngard.

 

I treat Serana with the upmost caution. I never stray from the quest path with her until the quest is over. It is hard to tell if & when she has glitched out. Once she dose it is game over unless you have a save before every event you had with her.

 

The only precaution I take with the main quest is to not go to Kynesgrove with Delphina. It is best to go alone.

 

Later

[Rethrain]

Depends on how broken you mean. If it's a little, then that's normal Skyrim with a lot of mods.

 

I have around 180 esps and something over 200 in total counting those with and without them. Only overhaul I have is SkyRe. I also have that other site's mods too. However I have no mods that make the actual game harder or survival mods of any kind. Aside from looking at the loadorder I clean my saves a lot.

 

I always find little things but they aren't that much. Most of the stuff I find are really a product of having a lot of mods on and no real incompatibility between the mods. However, I have to be actively looking for them. Otherwise, unless it really impedes something it can and will go unnoticed.

[Shivala]

No problem, I usually run around 150-200 mods and no problems. I usually do a test playthrough and try to see if its stable.

I dont clean, esp the bigger modern mods are usually well written (depending on author) and stable.

There is the occasional hang or infinite loader, but nothing that hurts the fun!

[Madcat221]

I dunno what USLEEP is. I use TES5Edit for cleaning mods, but no idea how to use it to check what mod might be touching the DLC's in weird ways.

 

THIS THREAD is what I used as a guide for difficulty mods this time, though I've tried other combinations as well.

 

You don't use any difficulty mods? Any chance you could post your load order?

 

EDIT: I looked up USLEEP. I have the Unofficial Skyrim and DLC patches, but do not use USLEEP. This is the first time I've heard of it.

If you haven't heard of USLEEP before now, what version of USKP and the DLC patches were you on?

[yudhi108]

 

If you haven't heard of USLEEP before now, what version of USKP and the DLC patches were you on?

 

 

All four of the patches (unofficial Skyrim, Hearthfire, Dragonborn, and Dawnguard) are 2.1.3b. I've tried this with several version of the patches in the past though, and the DLC's are always broken (used many dif combination of mods as well).

 

It's been a good 3-6 months since I quit Skyrim (quit due the frustration of feeling like I wasted YEARS on the game) but it hasn't been that long. Seems I quit like right around the time USLEEP was coming out or a few months afterwards. I've downloaded it and will add it and test again my game next week on a new save, but I doubt it will fix DB DLC, even on a new game. Again I hope I'm wrong about this. I'd love for the DLC's to be fixed and for the game to finally, after years of trying, work.

 

Also, I didn't mention my load order because I was trying to keep this general, but I will edit my OP to include my load order. You can see it there if you want.

 

As an aside, one solution would be pretested mod compilations ready for download. I suggested this before and got shot down by many people but from a gamers point of view it really does make sense. I would have much rather downloaded a compilation of mods that works than having spent years modding this game to no avail. I love and hate Skyrim. Love it for all the obvious reasons and hate it cuz of how many THOUSANDS of hours I've spent (wasted) trying to get it to work like I want. I've come very close but the enjoyment still dissipated before my eyes when s*** is broken.

[Signette]

My load order is ~30 mods only (different setups for different heroes, so numbers are varied) so yes, I've played through DG and DB no problem all the way through, several times, no issues.

 

And that's quite logical really, Skyrim is a mess, more mods you have, harder it is to sort it out to get stable game, I doubt from your list there are all 100% must have mods, so I would cut it and keep only those I can't live without, would make your life easier I bet.