Uncina Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Hi! I would like to improve Skyrim so I can finally play smoothly with mods for the best (I try) but after 2 months of "do-it-yourself" I'm going a little crazy. It's not so "hard" modding itself after you learn how do it but in my opinion is hard to fit what you want with what your PC/Laptop can actually do. XDI really hate this "high-tough-wall".So probably I don't have the best rig for do it easly. Indeed here I am asking some help.My specs:PC: Asus N56JK NotebookProcessor/CPU: Intel® Core i7-4710HQ CPU @ 2.50GHzRAM: 8,00 GB (7,88 GB that can be used)System: 64 bit (x64)Resolution: 1920x1080, 60Hz.Windows: 8.1GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850MDriver version: 365.19 I don't use ENB.DCL: all.Game Location: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapp\common\skyrimskyrim.ini and skyrimPrefs.ini files are in C:\Documents\mygames\skyrimI'm using LOOT (last version), Wrye Bash (last version), TESVEdit (last version) and Nexus Mod Manager (last version), SKSE (last version), SKYUI (last version).I was using Vivid Weather, Vivid Landscapes, Verdant and RLO and I was having 30-20 fps, lag and weird "heartquakes" (looks like a tiny shake repeated every 30/50 seconds and you see the world infront of you quiver a little).Now also with this less load order I get "heartquakes" and lag... I don't know what to do.Any help is really appreciated and I thak you for be there and reading. :happy: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm 7 7 SPIKE.esm 8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm 9 9 TERAArmors.esm 10 a WM Flora Fixes.esp 11 b GeneralDisplays.esm 12 c GeneralDisplays - DB.esm 13 d GeneralDisplays - DG.esm 14 e Dual Wield for Followers.esm 15 f ApachiiHair.esm 16 10 SGHairPackBase.esm 17 11 ApachiiHairMales.esm 18 12 HighResTexturePack01.esp 19 13 HighResTexturePack02.esp 20 14 HighResTexturePack03.esp 21 15 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 22 16 FNIS.esp 23 17 SGEyebrows.esp 24 18 Brows.esp 25 19 Beards.esp 26 1a dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 27 1b XPMSE.esp 28 1c SkyUI.esp 29 1d Animated Dragon Wings.esp 30 1e VioLens.esp 31 1f DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp 32 20 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp 33 21 ImmersiveSpells.esp 34 22 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 35 23 Differently Ebony.esp 36 24 StylishPirate.esp 37 25 Cassandra Frost Witch.esp 38 26 Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp 39 27 Mord Sith Cara.esp 40 28 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 41 29 Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp 42 2a CiriOutfit.esp 43 2b TrissDress.esp 44 2c Quel'Delar - Johnskyrim.esp 45 2d AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 46 2e RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp 47 2f Elemental Staves.esp 48 30 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp 49 31 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 50 32 KS Jewelry.esp 51 33 towConversation.esp 52 34 FISS.esp 53 35 AMatterOfTime.esp 54 36 iHUD.esp 55 37 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 56 38 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 57 39 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 58 3a RSChildren - Complete.esp 59 3b MoonGlow.esp 60 3c Book Covers Skyrim.esp 61 3d SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 62 3e SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp 63 3f FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 64 40 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 65 41 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 66 42 WetandCold.esp 67 43 AOS.esp 68 44 Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp 69 45 AuroraFollower.esp 70 46 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 71 47 Immersive Weapons.esp 72 48 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 73 49 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 74 4a Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 75 4b Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 76 4c RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 77 4d EliteRogueArmour.esp 78 4e Tera Armor Level List.esp 79 4f P1FlyingRing.esp 80 50 USLEEPSoundITA.esp 81 51 Druid Den Redux.esp 82 52 CFTO.esp 83 53 RavenCastle.esp 84 54 ImmersiveStables.esp 85 55 NorthernCardinal.esp 86 56 Immersive Horses.esp 87 57 Hearthfire IHO Compatibility Patch.esp 88 58 hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 89 59 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 90 5a aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 91 5b Merta Assassin Armor.esp 92 5c Bijin AIO.esp 93 5d BijinAIO-2016_3.1.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp 94 5e SBF All In One + DLC.esp 95 5f IHSS.esp 96 60 SFMFollower.esp 97 61 anyonefollows2.esp 98 62 moveitLWT.esp 99 63 WM Trap Fixes.esp100 64 Command Dragon.esp101 65 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp102 66 Saeri_AetherialCrown.esp103 67 RaceMenu.esp104 68 RaceMenuPlugin.esp105 69 Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp106 6a Craftable Horse Barding.esp107 6b SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp108 6c White River Cottage.esp109 6d Ayfertehuis.esp110 6e SofiaFollower.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp111 6f R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp112 70 FNISspells.esp113 71 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp114 72 imp_helm_legend.esp115 73 KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp116 74 Dual Sheath Redux.esp117 75 Extended UI.esp118 76 MindFlux.esp119 77 Luna_GoV.esp120 78 Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp121 79 Speech Tree Remade.esp122 7a SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp123 7b SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp124 7c SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp125 7d RumplestiltskinDagger.esp126 7e KS Hairdo's.esp127 7f SGHairPackAIO.esp128 80 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp129 81 AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp130 82 HDT Female Hairstyles.esp131 83 FreckleMania.esp132 84 NobleWeddingDressByUrshi.esp133 85 SC_NobleDresses.esp134 86 Sunglasses_WF.esp135 87 Seren - Skysims Hair 206 Elsa.esp136 88 yurica_summerdress [HDT].esp137 89 Heisenberg - Johnskyrim.esp138 8a sirwho_Wizard_Hat.esp139 8b zzArmormashups.esp140 8c Sun Glasses OE.esp141 8d Blade_of_Olympus.esp142 8e Hell Sword.esp143 8f Newmelv.esp144 90 VR_Tannick.esp145 91 ktWeaponPack.esp146 92 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp147 93 Tirashan.esp148 94 Vetrheim.esp149 95 SkyDreamMaidens.esp150 96 MainMenu.esp151 97 DaedraHuntress.esp152 98 Medieval Furor from Oblivion.esp153 99 A Month of Internet Depravity Weapon Pack.esp154 9a Brisingr.esp155 9b TERA Weapons.esp156 9c My Home Is Your Home.esp157 9d alendrissword.esp158 9e Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp159 9f Raven Witch Armor.esp160 a0 LustmordVampireArmor.esp161 a1 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp162 a2 Quick Start - Skip the Opening Sequence.esp163 a3 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp164 a4 dovahkiinrelax.esp165 a5 ElisyumClothes.esp166 a6 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp167 a7 TW3Weaponry.esp168 a8 Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp169 a9 CombinedKSHairs.esp170 aa KSWigs.esp171 ab KS Wigs NonHDT.esp172 ac WetandCold - Ashes.esp173 ad Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbender800 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 the GPU in that laptop isnt very strong. All your texture mods are likely causing memory issues. when modding you should always test after every few mods. for performance and stability. always always test. go with 1k textures wherever possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Word of advice: this sort of post is never going to get you the answer you're looking for. To sum up what you've said: "Here's everything I've know about my computer and here's every mod I'm running. Can you tell me how to change the latter so it works well with the former." Well... no, actually. That's just not possible. There's too many variables. You should instead ask questions like "this mod is causing problems" or "I'm getting low fps here" or "what kind of mods cause performance drops." That we can help you with. "Here's all my stuff can you fix it for me?" Not so much. Now, let me give some advice re:getting acceptable performance with mods. Profiling is the key. If you don't already have one, create a vanilla profile--one with exactly 0 mods installed. Once you've done that, start a *new game* (you don't need to delete your old one) and see what kind of performance you're getting. Then try adding a few mods at a time, creating a new profile every time. Eventually, you'll find a compromise between performance and running the mods you want. Then you can return to your old game****BIG IMPORTANT NOTE: Skyrim does very poorly with uninstalled mods, especially scripted mods. It would be best if you started a brand new game--actually it be best if you clean installed and switched to mod organizer and then started a brand new game, but that's pretty extreme. If, however, you recoil at the idea of starting all over, you can should use one of the savegame cleaners found on the nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 the GPU in that laptop isnt very strong. All your texture mods are likely causing memory issues. when modding you should always test after every few mods. for performance and stability. always always test. go with 1k textures wherever possible This is the best sort of advice you'll get to these kinds of posts. It's helpful, but it's very general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncina Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for answer to me, both :happy: I totally understand you RS13 and I thank you for bring me this point. I'm so confused about that I can't analyze exacly what I have to ask for get somewhere actually and I apologyse for missing the point. I will follow your guideline and also ironbender800's advices. Idon't have problems to delete everything and re-start again the process. I have a backup for skyrim-total-vanilla. About Mod Organizer I don't know how make it works fine with many mods. But I will figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Mod Organizer is definitely better if you're willing to learn how to use it, but unless you're willing to start a new game, I'm not sure I'd recommend it. You'd need--at the very least--to uninstall and reinstall every mod, and it would be best if you uninstalled and reinstalled Skyrim. We're talking about a full day's work. (I just this with Fallout 4 and I'm familiar with Mod Organizer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncina Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) I can do this! :D Aactually I did this work 3 times at least but in a wrong way, It's not a problem. The MO problem is that for me is very hard find the correct installing order for things like XP32 Skeleton Extended, UNP, Physics, FNIS, Dual Stealth, Ragdoll and Force, BBP, HDT. The same happend every installation that require many mods for the end resoult. I spent al lot of time with CBBE body and BBP that I switch to UNP and to NMM. And with SKSE I had always an Overwrite to handle. Don't know if it's right or wrong. I did manual installation for SKSE. Edited June 11, 2016 by Uncina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Return Skyrim to a vanilla/stock state: http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again If you will be using Mod Organizer, one thing to note. Actual order of installing the mods from the download pane is unimportant as each mod is kept in its own folder away from the game itself. (Note: Some mods with multiple files may need a specific order so that they merge properly into a single folder.)What is important are the following:Load order --> Adjust the right paneInstallation order --> Adjust the left pane SKSE should not be installed with Mod Organizer or with any mod manager to be honest. There are files that need to be in the main Skyrim folder and mod manager cannot add to this folder. You can repack SKSE's data folder contents as a mod and install that with a mod manager if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncina Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ok that's a good news! So I was wrong something about that stuff. Ok... So Is normal that SKSE at every launch of the game make files in the Overwrite section? I have to live them here or make a "mod folder" for them and uptodate it every time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 SKSE itself shouldn't make any files appear in the overwrite folder. However, some SKSE plugins may have logs or other things that get written to disk during the game and they may appear in the overwrite folder. A couple ways to resolve this:1. Figure out what mod the file(s) came from and using Windows Explorer (File Explorer on Win 10) move the file(s) from the overwrite folder into the mod folder. Create any folders as necessary so that the file when loaded by MO is in the same location relative to the Data folder. 2. Right click on the overwrite folder and create a new mod. Call it something like "Random SKSE Related In-Game Files" Either one of these approaches will have that file accessible to the game so that should they be written again the new instance will go to the location in the mod folder as opposed to creating a new file in the overwrite folder. An example of this is using the RaceMenu mod to create and save a character preset. The preset file will appear in the overwrite folder under SKSE > Plugins > Chargen (or something similar I'm going from memory here...). At first glance it looks like SKSE but it is from a separate mod that uses SKSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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