Weapons galore

[Sev051]

I have no coding experience, animation experience or 3d modeling. Although I would love to learn the basics sadly my computer currently is so bad I cant hardly run flash games or minecraft on lowest settings. Although I have fallout 4 on xbox one I have yet played it, but I'm invested in none spoiler stuff like watching mods come out, Ive read on what weapons are in the game the notes on them in wiki. Got a full list of mods I want on xbox and pc if I ever get around to either. But open for discussion or talk if anyone wants to tackle any of them. May post reference of basic concept art from time to time or just use it as my own personal idea log.

So heres some ideas I had for mods, upgrades and stuff that would be great. If they get ported or not its fine I'd just be happy to see them inspire some mod makers. I may have missed some comparable mods out there as I haven't gotten through all the pages yet so forgive me if any are close or dead on with others. But lets start off with a bang, or mines and other improvised explosive weapons that are triggered by proximity or being stepped on. Some may need to be animated or just have a existing model relabeled with edited stats but again I hope these are enjoyed.

Mines and such

• Wire trip mine: For those who have played Dishonored this is a close idea to it. Unlike other mines its not about the explosion in fact its use would allow for stealth traps that wont alert enemies. Razor sharp wire are spooled tightly to the point of great tension, once released the metal wires would slash out with such force flesh or unarmored targets would be severely injured if not killed. As there isnt a explosion just a catch releasing a fury of metal cables. A Sticky variant could be made as well where you could place on any surface. Now as the mine doesn't necessarily explode the player could pick it up again, but to keep it balanced this would be a (Used) variant. Take it to a workbench to rewind the cables and maybe replace a power source for the detector and a new mine is ready to go.
  
• Tazer mine: Another stealth like mine this one again doesn't explode in any way. To keep balanced and distinct from things like emp mines, it must be stepped on. It would be a large metal plate that once stepped on send a electric charge powerful enough to kill weak fleshy enemies, stun stronger ones. And disable most robotic type enemies. Flying enemies like mr handy would have course be immune to triggering it as they can not step on it. The item only releases a single use to any enemy or if your lucky enemies that step on it at the same time. Again this item would be able to be reused but due to the complicated design needs to be taken to a workbench to recharge. Possibly a few energy cells and a decent INT level.
  
• The porcupine or impaler mine: Stealth is out the window as this mine maybe vary loud. Like the railway rifle this weapon uses railway spikes, the sound emitted from the spikes being fired off is similar if not louder as its letting pressurized air/steam fire off in every direction. The mine itself would be somewhat big, with only the tips of the spikes appearing out like porcupine quills. This doesnt explode either so you can pick up the mine shell, and what spikes remain pinned to walls and enemies in the world. Although its trigger range would be smaller then some as it doesnt explode, the spikes have similar range to the gun, just fired off in every direction. So caution should be used, unless its more like a claymore where all spikes face forward instead of a standard mine shape. Taking back to a work bench to replace the spikes and re pressurize the system is a balance for its re usability.The heavy damage, is balanced by scarcity of ammo unless they updated that.
  
• Prototype BHM: The schematics would need to be found in a lore friendly place as this device is based on found on alien tech before the war. Trying to reverse engineer devices found on a crashed alien ship two devices were made. Thought to be some sort of weapon unknown to the scientists at the time it was in fact part of the aliens warp technology that they were tampering with. When the generals saw what it did to those working on it they wanted it weaponized. Upon triggering the mine explodes like normal but instantly a small void opens up temporarily above its device. The black hole is to small and unstable to actually suck anything through but any physic based object, and enemy near by would be pulled into the center or the tare, the force gradually damaging them until either losing power and shutting off releasing the enemy, or the enemy gibs like bloody mess.
  
  To keep the game from completely freaking out or losing any item in small rooms nothing goes through the void it all remains just suctioned into place. This also allows the player to safely take pot shots at enemies that cant escape. On a rare chance the void however might pull a random mob through as it dissipates. at full health unlike any surviving enemy this random mob will attach them first unless its the only thing alive. Being based on alien tech the device needs alien power cells a rare source that either goes to the alien blaster or these one time use mines
  
• Bouncing Betsy: Based on a prewar banned weapon the bouncing betty, this mine has a unique trait of popping up into the air after being triggered right before exploding. Unlike the betty however this make shift device can reach head height on most humans. It uses a wire trap design right before it finally explodes, allowing the device to freely spin and take off where as the whip mine is designed to sit in place and just unwind. This first phase of wires has a high chance of cripple or head gibbing, followed by a small explosion that harms the rest of the body if not just blowing them up entirely.
  
• Party mine!: Upon being triggered a loud whistle or audio chime sounds, the mine first sprays flames along the floors edge in a 360 degree pattern and a single plum upwards, followed by a small explosion which then throws normal or poisoned caltrops all around. Best used in hallways, narrow paths and other indoor areas for the best effect. The idea behind it is basically a softener or warning type device when exploring. Its sound, and impressive display of violence would make it seem like a party favor, if not for the fact it hurts like hell.
  
• Grape mine: Upon being activated the device explodes showering the area in tiny activated pellets, each one is capable of rolling or bouncing with a small delay before exploding itself. The first explosion is the most damaging, yet smaller then most, each pellet alone is decent but no where near the next weakest explosive in game. However as there are multiple pellets like a shot gun and the spread is over a decent area with many it can ruin someones day. Far more pellets then a grenade variant but not as recommended for indoor use unless your clear a ways.
  

Grenades and other thrown explosives

 

• Wire grenade: Like the wire mine this weapon can be used stealth fully so long as the enemy hit with it is killed. Unlike the mine the device is not reusable. A timer delayed type, or contact type could be made allowing for stealthy take downs. If a critical hit is done on weak enemies a bloody mess like gib is induced.
  
• Prototype BHG: Found along with the mine schematics this is a thrown variant, however unlike the mine due to the nature of the device being thrown it is far more unstable and violent, Pulling anything in nearby before quickly dying it opens multiple tiny tares or black holes all of which pulling and damaging from every direction. A high chance to crit weaker enemy types to gib them.
  
• Grape grenade: Round like a normal hand grenade but with individual round pellets sprays apart upon contact with any surface, the pin pulled sets the fuse of each individual pellet that is held together by a small adhesive layer that is a hardened state when not activated. The fuses ignition starts a chemical reaction allowing the pellets to bounce off the center most pellet rolling or bouncing in every direction before blowing up on after another. One pellet isn't much to laugh at but multiples add up fast.
  
• Impulse grenade: Unlike the pulse grenade this grenade is like those of past games where instead of over time its one instant surge, Caution should be used however as this rigged version is tampered with, needing Science or INT whichever seems to fit best to modify them. The benefit of a single charge of energy is obvious as it better effects robots that are faster. The downside is because of the tampering once the grenade is activated and thrown its so unstable now that hitting the slightest thing sets it off early.

Fist and such

• Ballistic fist: Like the ballistic fist in new vegas its pretty much a modified powerfist that triggers shotgun shells upon hitting a target. However to make it more immersive it will actually use ammo this time around but still count as a fist weapon as it must contact the target to ignite the ammo. I say ammo as if possible it be nice to be able to swap the barrel mechanism to the players preferred ammo. So a more abundant 10mm, a shotgun shell, a small electrical charge, or a rail way spike that can pin enemies if crit. Another modifiable device would be all, or single round for each punch. Smaller rounds and energy types have 4 or more hits before empty and need to reload, where as bigger and bigger get less and less. Where as all shots from pistol ammo may be more desired, things like one at a time for shotgun shells or rarer ammos. All at once using a full charge from the selected energy source type.
  
• (Insert fire pun fist here): I couldnt think of a decent name for this one but its simple, Upon bunching the target flamer fuel from a small container is sprayed across the enemy, when the hand is pulled away animation begins either a spark or small flame follows the sprayed fuel to the drenched target engulfing them in flames for a short time. Although no reload animation is required for its small tank each punch uses a small amount of flamer fuel. If you have no flamer fuel there is still a small percent chance to ignite enemy on fire upon strike. The weapon also adds a small amount of fire damage resistance as it be a bit insane to just keep punching if the targets engulfed in fire. A cryo variant could be made, where on critical either in fires case burn to ash, cryos case frozen solid until gibbed/shattered.
  
• Rocket punch: A gauntlet around the users lower arm up to the elbow, heavier then a power fist but for good reason, the simple punch alone has a small rocket assisted boost instead of pistons, but if the player holds down the trigger before releasing a reticle slowly appears narrowing as the screen shakes, the sound of engines priming your arm held over head. Releasing the trigger your character swings forward jet flames bursting out the back over their shoulder allowing for a long jet assisted lunge that can cripple super mutants if not gib raiders. If the target is big like a deathclaw, super mutant its possible to stagger or knock unconscious if its still in the game followed after a short ride. If the player misses however and hits the ground or other surface, a shock wave is sent out around them staggering or damaging enemies.
  
• Vlad (The impaler): another power fist variant based on a construction tool. A large metal beam, rail road spikes, or other metal rods and rivets could be used with this tool. When the pad on the knuckles was pushed (punched in this case) piston assisted driving mechanism drives the rivets and such into place. Before the bombs fell it was a useful tool but was banned after work place violence led to serious injuries and death. Each punch landed will assist the metal instrument of choice down a guided chute into the target. Each one re-obtainable after use of course, but the fun kicker is when you get a crit. the target will go flying into the nearest surfaced pinned.
  
• (Grinder/Saw): Another work place tool that did not use the piston system of a powerfist, it did however use the outlying frame to assist the tools blade, Rawring to life right before the punch it can do some serious damage but is loud enough stealth is not an option. A nice effect is if on metal it throws sparks everywhere, flesh blood and such.

Guns and mods for them

• Railway rifle steam to piston: The new driving system is almost twice the weight for a good reason the combustion piston system drives the spikes harder, allowing automatic fire to finally feel like its worth it if you have the spikes for it. This also makes the single fire mode devastating, yet less accurate unless further mods added. Also allows single reloads by sliding a spike in through a side feed that leads to the spikes chute. When firing a single shot sounds like a car back firing, when automatic mods enabled on the gun it sounds like a engine reving.
  
• Railway recoil shoulder Stock: Furthering the advantages of the recoil stock while adding slightly more weight this mod makes a elongated stock that turns the weapon into the over the shoulder brace, its large dampeners controlled more comfortably this way.
  
• Upgraded automatic railway rifle: This mod requires the original to be used at a workbench for modification. Its slightly less weight as the barrel stuff no longer needs to cycle the steam/air improving accuracy by a tad bit to. It also makes it so the spikes are on a make shift ammo belt feeding through the side chute allowing for large sustained fire. like a hmg. This of course can only be used in conjunction with the other two mods as they play off the steam to combustion based piston pressure.
  
• Top break revolver: A variant of the 44 that latches at the top and folds open like a double barrel shotgun to empty and reload the cylinder. Other then the same types of frames and mods that you would see on the standard 44, this can come in multiple loads. 38 auto, 44 and so on. Probably the biggest mod that might interest others is the tri barrel frame and cylinder. The barrels align in a triangle, in a V pattern with the front sight aligned where the top two barrels meet. The larger cylinder holds 18 rounds and allows the revolver to fire 3 shots per pull. Unlike a shot gun these 3 are in a straight uniform pattern with a tight grouping.
  
• Governor frame: It looks almost exactly like a standard revolver frame, except slightly elongated to accept the new longer cylinder. Unique to this design its possible of using 410 shotgun shells, 45 acp, even 45 long colt. Able of using snub nose to elongated its about as customize able as a 44. Now a 410 is weaker then the 20 gauge we've seen in new vegas shotguns like the caravan but it has about the same range and slightly smaller but allows for 6 shells.
  
• Rubberized grip: For any of the revolver ideas but mostly the 44, one step beyond a comfort grip. Better recoil, hip fire accuracy and cost less ap due to the reduced strain.
  
• Pipe crank mod: Unlike other pipe gun mods this design relies on a crank instead of a trigger pull to fire rounds. It holds like a rifle and requires a stock as it removes the grip. Instead of grip mods it comes with crank or foregrip mods in their place. Sharing the majority of pipe barrels, stocks and other upgrades it does have some of its own. Water cooled barrel, basic triple barrel to fine long triple barrel. Ammo feeds in from the right side via magazine or drum, but it has unique belt fed drum which adds to the weight, increasing its fire rate and ammo capacity. The crank mods increase fire rate, hip fire accuracy and accuracy based on how quality you make it. The smoother you can rotate the crank the better it fires.
  
• Pipe rocket launcher: Similar in design to at4 or other rocket launchers that you fire by pressing a button instead of a trigger its way lighter and far less advanced then a missile launcher. Able to fire crafted rockets which are cheap and highly inferior missiles or standard missiles this weapon was crafted when the need for cheap heavy weapons arose after the bombs dropped. Mutations, super mutants, heavily armored robots you name it they needed something. What it lacks for accuracy and beauty it makes up for it in design. The most standard model looks like makeshift tubing with a safety cover for the button pressed ignite it. It feeds from the rear through a open simple flap, its sight a simple screw or metal rivet a few inches down from the firing button. It can upgrade with better frames for improved accuracy, range and blast resistance as some frames can have blast shields.
  
  It may not have advanced abilities like locking on, multiple tubes or explosive power it makes up for in in fire rate. One mod is a simple box magazine that gravity feeds the warheads down ward through the upper hatch. Holding 4 missiles or rockets it allows the user to quickly reload and fire in rapid succession. It may not be vary accurate firing all 4 within seconds but the damage per second makes up for it.
  
• Pipe shotgun/grenade launcher: Now I know a few of these are in the works or been made but this is a simple mod for those. Instead of shotgun shells one can load it with 40mm grenade shells. Either single shot style, multi barrels, pump action to box mag. It would use the same loading animations and just larger barrels for shells unless it loads through a receiver via a pump and tube.
  
• 1911 mod mods: There have been a few 1911 mods floating around, these lovely handguns can chamber many round types but if one wanted they can go further. Gangsters, weapon smiths and even hobbyist on occasion would modify the 1911 to fire fully automatic. Now 7-8 45acp rounds go fast and thats a bunch of recoil. But they didnt stop there. One such as DIllinger had a wood grip similar to that of a thompson mounted to the front. A compensator type barrel replacing the original, wood stock added to the grip, and extended magazine. But thats not the most unique mod one could do. Not to long ago a company made a double barrel 1911, not because it was asked for, but because they could. It was basically two 1911 frames either welded or machined side by side with a single sight going down the middle.
  
  
  
  
  
  

Edited July 4, 2016 by Sev051

[SkyrimFanatik]

These are some really good ideas man, I haven't played Dishonored but I like the mine/grenade ideas.

To add to your Grape Mines/Grenades it would be nice if someone could create individual projectiles/effects so you'd see a buckshot impact effect on enemies as well as buildings and objects and maybe even sound effects of pellets hitting nearby objects/ground.

[Sev051]

These are some really good ideas man, I haven't played Dishonored but I like the mine/grenade ideas.

To add to your Grape Mines/Grenades it would be nice if someone could create individual projectiles/effects so you'd see a buckshot impact effect on enemies as well as buildings and objects and maybe even sound effects of pellets hitting nearby objects/ground.

I was kind of thinking along those lines as well, being dense metal balls it probably sound like metallic marbles clacking against one another upon impact with a surface. If going in depth it would need sound files for hard surfaces, dirt/sand, metal or wood. I doubt it's possible but different bounce attributes depending on surface would be awesome. Sand it hardly bounce after they scattered, dirt would allow it to bounce some and roll. Wood bounce a bit more rolls easier. And so on.