Is Bethesda trying to distance themselves from Steam and Nexus?

[RattleAndGrind]

Is Bethesda attempting to separate themselves from Steam and Nexus?

First, Bethesda produces their own mod distribution gateway; bethesda.net. Not the greatest, but it is a first cut and it works (sorta). Many have commented that it looks as if Bethesda may be attempting to edge the other mod distribution gateways out of game (as it where), including Nexus.

Then comes the Creation Kit for Fallout 4, and the new Bethesda.net Launcher. At first, it was just the CK which was available via this "launcher". Now, Fallout Shelter has been delivered via that launcher. Could this be the first steps in an attempt by Bethesda to chuck Steam overboard as their preferred distribution gateway for games?

So my question is simple. Is Bethesda attempting to divorce themselves from Steam and/or Nexus? Or do I have an overactive imagination?

Edited July 22, 2016 by RattleAndGrind

[Purr4me]

If that were the case? Why then bother to force connect steam accounts to their system?

On their site Bethesda Profile manager, in there, is a setting to turn off steam Profile account connections, but when you log off, it automatically reconnects your account.

 

They require steam as the medium for distribution ; for now anyway.

 

The Ck requires you to be logged in their beth account in order for you to use specific parts of the CK to compile data, They need PC's active for conversion to other systems AKA xbox or PS4 Formats.

 

the conversion software is not downloaded until you log in, it's not shipped with the ck and it verity's you have purchased the game on steam.

 

EDIT: Clarified terms: (https://verity.io/) As an example where this goes with them and us all.

 

Could this be the first steps in an attempt by Bethesda to chuck Steam overboard as their preferred distribution gateway for games?

That ? Would be kinda bad for them, Valve is well established and they need its' Anti cheat things to control the medium, their property.

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1.There are two ways we all mod the game. one way is proven past, ini settings tweaked, game runs off line and we can use loose file formats.

 

 

2.once online, these get reset by steam and you loose those settings as Valve rests the game back to defaults.

Ba2 is online use if you think about it.

 

Loose file folders is off line format and that is required to build mods with. They need Us, so i don't believe modding is being forced out.

 

Change in the way we do things? Yes. The way they went about it is corporate decision making. We have no say so in that matter.

All involved are in the picture.

 

But their method protects them, not us.

Edited July 20, 2016 by Purr4me

[RattleAndGrind]

 

On their site Bethesda Profile manager, in there, is a setting to turn off steam Profile account connections, but when you log off, it automatically reconnects your account.

 

This is not true. I deleted the connection to my steam account in bethesda.net a long time ago, as I did not intend to need it for a while. As a result of this comment I checked. It is still deleted.

 

They require steam as the medium for distribution ; for now anyway.

 

"for now anyway" is the heart of the second half of my question. Is Bethesda positioning itself to move away from Steam by implementing its own distribution platform; ie Bethesda.net Launcher?

 

 

The Ck requires you to be logged in their beth account in order for you to use specific parts of the CK to compile data, They need PC's active for conversion to other systems AKA xbox or PS4 Formats.

 

the conversion software is not downloaded until you log in, it's not shipped with the ck and it verity's you have purchased the game on steam.

 

 

 

How is this related to the questions I asked? Are you trying to say that Bethesda is forcing everyone to Bethesda.net for mods? I do not understand.

 

 

Could this be the first steps in an attempt by Bethesda to chuck Steam overboard as their preferred distribution gateway for games?

That ? Would be kinda bad for them, Valve is well established and they need its' Anti cheat things to control the medium, their property.

 

Thank you. This addresses the second half of the question.

 

 

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1.There are two ways we all mod the game. one way is proven past, ini settings tweaked, game runs off line and we can use loose file formats.

 

 

2.once online, these get reset by steam and you loose those settings as Valve rests the game back to defaults.

Ba2 is online use if you think about it.

 

Loose file folders is off line format and that is required to build mods with. They need Us, so i don't believe modding is being forced out.

 

Change in the way we do things? Yes. The way they went about it is corporate decision making. We have no say so in that matter.

All involved are in the picture.

 

But their method protects them, not us.

 

I am sorry. I do not understand how this relates to the question I asked. Are you reiterating the importance of Steam? Please help me understand what you are trying to say.

Edited July 20, 2016 by RattleAndGrind

[Purr4me]

the ck uses Encryption to create mods with to fit their systems all of their systems. It requires that it connects to the steam account before it downloads the needed data OR you can't make the correct mods work right.

I deleted the connection to my steam account in bethesda.net a long time ago, as I did not intend to need it for a while. As a result of this comment I checked. It is still deleted.

You delete your steam account? How are you even running the game to begin with?

Please Show this to us all, I am now very interested in knowing how you do that.

 

Are you reiterating the importance of Steam?

A legit game is a steam game period.

 

Explain your self SO I understand you.

[Purr4me]

This was removed 1 week ago and now it has returned because I use in-game modding from their site. So if this is not there on your account and your accessing the mods there? Yeah, I wanna know how.

EDIT: no longer needed here. KB.

It can't be removed if you use their site.

Edited July 21, 2016 by Purr4me

[RattleAndGrind]

I asked what I believe to be a simple question. Your responses confused me as to what they meant and I asked for clarification. I do not wish to initiate a flame fest.

 

 

the ck uses Encryption to create mods with to fit their systems all of their systems. It requires that it connects to the steam account before it downloads the needed data OR you can't make the correct mods work right.

I deleted the connection to my steam account in bethesda.net a long time ago, as I did not intend to need it for a while. As a result of this comment I checked. It is still deleted.

You delete your steam account? How are you even running the game to begin with?

Please Show this to us all, I am now very interested in knowing how you do that.

 

Are you reiterating the importance of Steam?

A legit game is a steam game period.

 

Explain your self SO I understand you.

 

 

I did not say I deleted my Steam account. I said "I deleted the connection to my steam account in bethesda.net". The operative phrase being "deleted the connection". I do not have a connection to a Steam account in my bethesda.net account. I deleted it a while ago and it is still deleted. I do not download mods from Bethesda.net. I do not have any mods on Bethesda.net and have no immediate plans to put any mods on Bethedsa.net. So I do not need to connect my Steam account to Bethesda.net.

 

And all of this is unrelated to the original question I asked, but it is a telling tangent.

 

Edit. See this

Edited July 20, 2016 by RattleAndGrind

[Purr4me]

 

I do not download mods from Bethesda.net. I do not have any mods on Bethesda.net and have no immediate plans to put any mods on Bethedsa.net. So I do not need to connect my Steam account to Bethesda.net.

Now I understand, this is a political question posted; yes ?

 

Bethesda took up arms over mods due to money, this is a fact, but what you don't know is future events coming.

Every ting I posted is a control factor for the game even allowing the mods to run in the first place when you launch the game.

 

It's all tied together and you can not avoid it except by Rule 1 as I posted.

 

nexus mods, most of them use loose file format due to the very reason you stated here, not using their sites mods.

You need to change the ini files and configure the game for offline mode and never ever use the in-game sorting or MODS links.

 

so it is relevant here. If you think by all you have read about all the hype going on over THIS game !, Just wait till the new skyrim version hits !

people complained about ram, the games starved for it, 64bit OS seems toi use most of what's available but only up to 3,7 GIG's Extended ram offers more on 64bit systems.

They should have left that issue alone and stayed with 32bit.

 

Zenimax/ valve /Bethesda Took full advantage of all the input, you bet !

 

now we see complaints about how they interpreted the input and thus the method of deployments.

 

The nexus is not going anywhere. There is a itch in the air right now, when all the scratching is over, things will pick back up.

The nexus is not the only web site involved Either.

 

there are more Box systems then there are PC's. That's a truck load of corporate greed.

 

Chopping off the flow as you say in so many words is not in their best interest but they need to protect all the other systems from Vial data and are responsible for damages regardless of any Eulas.

 

To answer the OP statement? NO, this is not happening no matter how bad it looks. This is the people that use the systems hammered in stone as to how things used to work and people are just plain not happy their apple cart got tipped over.

 

The free software handed out is limply at best, but it does work and yes, you need to log in to their site as well as a steam ID of the game to compile mods correctly. <-----the term "CORRECTLY"...means just that.

 

links are available to you to pass judgment on the contents.

 

 

And all of this is unrelated to the original question I asked, but it is a telling tangent.

really ? wow, legit concerns are now considered a tangent?

 

concern your self with self indulgence if it pleases you sweetie, I have a thick skin now. Don't touch !

[RattleAndGrind]

@Purr4me, It has become obvious that you are not going to stick to the topic and

 

 

 

I do not download mods from Bethesda.net. I do not have any mods on Bethesda.net and have no immediate plans to put any mods on Bethedsa.net. So I do not need to connect my Steam account to Bethesda.net.

Now I understand, this is a political question posted; yes ?

 

Bethesda took up arms over mods due to money, this is a fact, but what you don't know is future events coming.

Every ting I posted is a control factor for the game even allowing the mods to run in the first place when you launch the game.

 

It's all tied together and you can not avoid it except by Rule 1 as I posted.

 

nexus mods, most of them use loose file format due to the very reason you stated here, not using their sites mods.

You need to change the ini files and configure the game for offline mode and never ever use the in-game sorting or MODS links.

 

so it is relevant here. If you think by all you have read about all the hype going on over THIS game !, Just wait till the new skyrim version hits !

people complained about ram, the games starved for it, 64bit OS seems toi use most of what's available but only up to 3,7 GIG's Extended ram offers more on 64bit systems.

They should have left that issue alone and stayed with 32bit.

 

Zenimax/ valve /Bethesda Took full advantage of all the input, you bet !

 

now we see complaints about how they interpreted the input and thus the method of deployments.

 

The nexus is not going anywhere. There is a itch in the air right now, when all the scratching is over, things will pick back up.

The nexus is not the only web site involved Either.

 

there are more Box systems then there are PC's. That's a truck load of corporate greed.

 

Chopping off the flow as you say in so many words is not in their best interest but they need to protect all the other systems from Vial data and are responsible for damages regardless of any Eulas.

 

To answer the OP statement? NO, this is not happening no matter how bad it looks. This is the people that use the systems hammered in stone as to how things used to work and people are just plain not happy their apple cart got tipped over.

 

The free software handed out is limply at best, but it does work and yes, you need to log in to their site as well as a steam ID of the game to compile mods correctly. <-----the term "CORRECTLY"...means just that.

 

links are available to you to pass judgment on the contents.

 

 

And all of this is unrelated to the original question I asked, but it is a telling tangent.

really ? wow, legit concerns are now considered a tangent?

 

concern your self with self indulgence if it pleases you sweetie, I have a thick skin now. Don't touch !

 

You have reduced this conversation to an asinine rant, complete with petty insults and negative appellations. You win. I will not indulge a troll in a flame fest. I have withdrawn my question.

Edited July 21, 2016 by RattleAndGrind

[Purr4me]

@Purr4me, It has become obvious that you are not going to stick to the topic and

 

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You have reduced this conversation to an asinine rant, complete with petty insults and negative appellations. You win. I will not indulge a troll in a flame fest. I have withdrawn my question.

You will attain better results from here (https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/forum/47-debates/)

That is where you type of question will get more hits.

 

Purely a pubescent response and not fitting for your stature. I had more admiration and believe you were above this. More respect before this post.

 

Tentando me isca? usar o fórum correto para debates políticos..

 

you have lost nothing except respect.

[RattleAndGrind]

 

Tentando me isca? usar o fórum correto para debates políticos..

 

Ahora que esta haciendo suposiciones inncorrectas.

 

No te voy a cebar. Que era una cuestioin pratica. Que secuestro.

 

?Y que te hizo un moderador? ?Quien eres tu para decirme que pro me oregunta va?

Edited July 22, 2016 by RattleAndGrind