My Tale of 2 Wastelands went off the deep end

[mgs5tppfan]

ISSUE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY fixed, read last posts for more details.

 

 

 

okay, guys, i have a bit of a problem with my ttw install. After taking a long break away from ttw, i finally decide to get back, so i merge my mods, build a bashed patch, make a new gfx preset, blah blah blah. Anyway, after doing ALL of that (especially the ever complicated mod merging), I fire up my game, load it up (i stopped in the DC megaton house), AND, i get this sort of empty looking place with like NOTHING, heres a pic (http://imgur.com/a/rLk7j)

 

as you can see, it's totally messed up, YES i installed every damn thing perfectly, my mod merges always work (usually lol), and the WEIRD thing is even when i load up a clean ttw starting save (after vault 101), i get that missing content error (which SHOULD NOT be showing), and i immediately land in GOODSPRINGS and not DC.

 

i don't think my LO is gonna be helpful in this situation since the damn game REFUSES to recognize my currently activated list of mods, but they all look fine in FOMM, i have the LATEST lutana, nvac, jip, all that stuff.

 

PLEASE, I beg of you, PLEASE help me out here, I REALLY wanna get back into ttw, I'll provide any files or w/e u need if u can't understand what i said.

 

thanks for reading and i hope u can help me.

BYE!

 

ps- nuking all my current files is NOT an option for me.

Edited August 26, 2016 by mgs5tppfan

[mgs5tppfan]

not even mcm is showing up EVEN tho its activated in my fomm and yes i even deleted my plugins txt file in the app data folder, still, not a damn thing!

 

I TRIED Everything, archive invalidation, loot, etc.....

Edited August 24, 2016 by mgs5tppfan

[iXenite]

Going to their official tech support forums would probably be better. Just a suggestion.

 

Tale of Two Wastelands Tech Support:

https://taleoftwowastelands.com/forums/tale-two-wastelands-technical-support

[mgs5tppfan]

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/4793735-mods-not-showing-up-in-game-even-though-i-activated-them-in-my-mod-manager/

 

here's a more detailed topic, it's NOT ttw's fault......

[dubiousintent]

First of all, stop spreading your problems across multiple threads. That simply makes it more of a bother to track what is going wrong than anyone wants to deal with to help you, and won't get you any help any quicker. The game is 6 years old; the forum population is much smaller and you can't expect responses within hours any more.

 

Second, now that you have tried (and failed) to get back into the game the "quick and dirty" way, it's time to slow down and go back to basics. If nothing else there have been OS updates since you last played that may play a role in your current problems. If your mod manager (FOMM as I understand it, but which one? The "forked" version is recommended now.) isn't recognizing active mods, then sorting and merging isn't going to work correctly anyway. So you need to get the vanilla game to load correctly, then add a mod at a time and test it (WITHOUT using a save file that is expecting other master files you don't have loaded yet). The time for your old save files is after you have the game at a stable and functional state.

 

If FOMM isn't working, then it's time to move on to another mod manager. But before that, let's look at the most common source of problems: where did you install Steam? If you accepted the "default" location, then it is under "C:\Program Files" (or the 64-bit location for 32-bit apps "C:\Program files(x86)"), which is a known problem location. If so, read the "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article in my signature and move it.

 

-Dubious-

[mgs5tppfan]

First of all, stop spreading your problems across multiple threads. That simply makes it more of a bother to track what is going wrong than anyone wants to deal with to help you, and won't get you any help any quicker. The game is 6 years old; the forum population is much smaller and you can't expect responses within hours any more.

 

Second, now that you have tried (and failed) to get back into the game the "quick and dirty" way, it's time to slow down and go back to basics. If nothing else there have been OS updates since you last played that may play a role in your current problems. If your mod manager (FOMM as I understand it, but which one? The "forked" version is recommended now.) isn't recognizing active mods, then sorting and merging isn't going to work correctly anyway. So you need to get the vanilla game to load correctly, then add a mod at a time and test it (WITHOUT using a save file that is expecting other master files you don't have loaded yet). The time for your old save files is after you have the game at a stable and functional state.

 

If FOMM isn't working, then it's time to move on to another mod manager. But before that, let's look at the most common source of problems: where did you install Steam? If you accepted the "default" location, then it is under "C:\Program Files" (or the 64-bit location for 32-bit apps "C:\Program files(x86)"), which is a known problem location. If so, read the "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article in my signature and move it.

 

-Dubious-

 

 

sorry, I thought the forum population was quite uh...large. my mistake.

 

I don't update my OS, I've been using the default 8.1 ever since i got my machine (maaaaybe?). OFC I use fomm fork, the default one doesn't even work. I even LOADED only the main nv esm, nothing. Tried all the BASE ttw files and the ttw converted fallout 3 esms, still nothing. Oh, btw, when i press new game, NOTHING happens at all, idk why, it's a weird issue......

 

I installed steam in x86 location (i use win 8.1 64 bit), games are in steamapps, ttw installed fine, etc etc. I'll check the article, also, pls tell me if i should give u any LOG files, i think the fnv4gb log in the documents/my games folder might be helpful?

 

Thanks for the help and I apologize if I was spamming too much, but I really really wanna roam the wild wastelands again ;-)

 

ps- I tried mod organizer, all that does is screw up my load order, and FOMM has been working fine for me, heck, I used to play with 140+ mods at one time.

[mgs5tppfan]

Here's my FNV4GB.log file from the mygames/documents/falloutnv folder-

 

http://pastebin.com/Z4RGzdKF

 

Also, I uh "forgot" to say that i have ~500 mods installed and only some 115 active (lol, don't ask why, and yes, I merged most of them in).

and, I disabled DEP for all the falloutnv executables, not sure if that helps.

could it be a problem with say, nvse plugins like uh nvac or jip or w/e? I don't think so, but I'm just assuming.

 

If u need any more log files, just tell me and I'll uh paste them up for ya'll.

 

thanks so much for helping and bye!

[dubiousintent]

If you haven't updated your OS since release (by which I take it you mean not even Windows updates), then it's likely your system is riddled with malware. At the very least you should be installing "important" updates which are security fixes that "anti-virus" programs can't prevent, usually because they have been detected being exploited "in the wild". Bot-nets are actively trolling for unprotected machines like yours and can find and detect you within minutes of connecting to the internet. I mean that quite literally. So you first need to boot from known "clean" media (like a "repair disk") and run virus checks (to include "boot and BIOS infectors"). If you don't feel capable of dealing with that, most computer stores offer that service.

 

If that isn't what you mean, then please try to be more precise. We can only go by what you say.

 

Move your game and let us know what happens when you try to get it to run as "vanilla". If FOMM isn't seeing vanilla files, then adding more mods isn't going to help matters. Get a vanilla game functional, and then take one step at a time from there. That way we can isolate what is causing the problem.

 

It's always useful to post your modded LO (in "Spoiler" tags. Use the "Special BBCode" button in the "Reply" menu bar). LOOT can copy your LO into a file suitable for posting here. (It's under the ":" with three dots to the extreme right in it's menu bar.)

 

"Mod Organizer" doesn't automatically "sort" your load order. Most mod managers don't. You need to do so either manually or with a tool like LOOT. The point is, if FOMM isn't seeing your mods NOW then it isn't "working fine".

 

Edit: Your FNV4GB Log is indicating that your JIP NVSE plugin is not compatible.

I also see several HUD-UI-Menu mods loading. Please read the wiki article "HUD-UI-Menu Issues". These have to be installed in the correct sequence and can cause strange UI issues (like buttons not responding) if you get them wrong.

 

-Dubious-

Edited August 26, 2016 by dubiousintent

[mgs5tppfan]

If you haven't updated your OS since release (by which I take it you mean not even Windows updates), then it's likely your system is riddled with malware. At the very least you should be installing "important" updates which are security fixes that "anti-virus" programs can't prevent, usually because they have been detected being exploited "in the wild". Bot-nets are actively trolling for unprotected machines like yours and can find and detect you within minutes of connecting to the internet. I mean that quite literally. So you first need to boot from known "clean" media (like a "repair disk") and run virus checks (to include "boot and BIOS infectors"). If you don't feel capable of dealing with that, most computer stores offer that service.

 

If that isn't what you mean, then please try to be more precise. We can only go by what you say.

 

Move your game and let us know what happens when you try to get it to run as "vanilla". If FOMM isn't seeing vanilla files, then adding more mods isn't going to help matters. Get a vanilla game functional, and then take one step at a time from there. That way we can isolate what is causing the problem.

 

It's always useful to post your modded LO (in "Spoiler" tags. Use the "Special BBCode" button in the "Reply" menu bar). LOOT can copy your LO into a file suitable for posting here. (It's under the ":" with three dots to the extreme right in it's menu bar.)

 

"Mod Organizer" doesn't automatically "sort" your load order. Most mod managers don't. You need to do so either manually or with a tool like LOOT. The point is, if FOMM isn't seeing your mods NOW then it isn't "working fine".

 

-Dubious-

 

uh, i'm checking for updates now thru my pc settings menu. updates were never installed cuz i set it that way and the last check for updates was on 6-8-2016

and last successful update install was on 4-21-16

 

uh, but if i move my game, what'll happen to my ini files, and other stuff like that?????

 

haha, I'm a total LOOT ADDICT, i've been using it 99% of the time and only 1% manually sorting. Here's my current lo (http://pastebin.com/uhmMVZE5).

 

ah, okay, so should i try maybe NMM? but i heard that fomm and ttw work perfectly and other non-fomm managers don't seem to work with ttw........

 

edit- maybe you can help me faster? what's ur steam? It'll be better that way, yes? It's kinda annoying constantly smashing the refresh key waiting for u to reply lol.

Edited August 26, 2016 by mgs5tppfan

[mgs5tppfan]

i use uio, my hud ui mods are CellHud (modified version for personal use), REV ui, classic fallout fonts, the usual pn mcm stuff, colored map icons, and some others like clean terminal screen, and matching colors for terminal screen.

 

weird about the jip thing, lemme look into it some moar. my steam id is http://steamcommunity.com/id/blitz67

 

edit- nope, my jip is fine and upto date, i uh installed an older version thru fomm a few months ago and w/e and i just copy pasted the NEW jip files into the plugins nvse folder and said yes when prompted to replace them. that's okay to do, right?

 

here's an updated fnv4gb log file- http://pastebin.com/QTM9B6HZ

Edited August 26, 2016 by mgs5tppfan