nomaroos Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) I've been Googling this and reading forum post after forum post for days and for hours at a time. I've got nothing helpful so far. Seems like the more 'help' I get, the worse things get. I recently started using Mod Organizer (2-3 weeks ago I think). I thought I was getting the hang of it but suddenly, every time I try to enter Jorrvaskr my game CTD after hitting the loading screen. I tried uninstalling any recently added mods, doing clean saves, running the save game cleaner, checking my load order with loot and manually to the best of my ability; It still crashes every time I try to enter Jorrvaskr. Early last night, I was able to just reload the game and it would get as far as letting me enter Jorrvaskr but would be stuck on a weird screen (loading screen smoke or something like that), and I could blindly save the game, reload the save inside Jorrvaskr and continue playing without any further issues. An hour later, it wouldn't load that far anymore. This afternoon, still no good. LEAVING Jorrvaskr isn't a problem. Entering the main hall from the basement quarters area isn't a problem. It's just entering the main hall from Whiterun. I even tried moving my player TO Farkas with the console. CTD. 2nd: Another weird issue that may be related, after playing for 'so long' (could be an hour, could be 3), the game will randomly stop loading textures: An NPC will run by with black arms and body/neck. The chicken's nest will be purple. My bow will suddenly be purple and missing the textures. Or random clothes will stop loading right: Novice Necromancer A has clothing textures, but the robes on Novice Necromancer B are black, no texture, just a black void shaped vaguely like the robes s/he's wearing. Saving, exiting and reloading the game solves this for a good while typically. 3rd, and this may or may not be even remotely related: I keep having a problem with Campfire and Frostfall plugins ending up in the Overwrite folder. I've tried putting them everywhere conceivable. I've even created a new mod from just those files and that seemed to really screw things up. (My character would get stuck trying to build a fire, the only fix was to move back into first person, click the fire again and select 'Use' again, and it would replay the 'crouching to use the fire' animation and the finally enter the fire building menu correctly. When I removed that new Plug-ins mod I created, let the game recreate those plug-ins (and put them back into the Overwrite folder), then moved them into their respective mods, that glitched stopped. However, those files WILL eventually end up back in the Overwrite folder again because that's what happens ever damn time. I'm getting really frustrated with this and with MO. At least with NMM, I knew what files were overwritten and what parts of what mods were active and what weren't. It's like my MO is possessed, like it randomly decides that it wants to use the overwritten files instead or something. Oh, LASTLY: I have tried S.T.E.P., I've gone through all the Skyrim Speed and Stability Tweaks tutorials, ENBoost,...blah blah, blah... All of those effed things up worse. Sheson's patch thing is obsolete thanks to SKSE's latest update(s). It's as if none of those are up to date with the current build of MO (which seems to have just updated and I hate the change), SKSE, Windows 10, DirectX...ANY of that. Last one I tried, (and I've done these before and had them work correctly, been at this modding thing since 2013, I'm not a pro but not a complete noob either), but the last one I tried left my Skyrim loading all pixelated and tiny; I could hardly read the Start Game options. It looked like a computer game from 1986! All I did was use the ENB speed and stability hack/patch/guide thing, whatever it's called (sorry, I have had a migraine for legitimately, like 4-5 months), and when I retraced my steps back to undo it all, following the guide again, it didn't fix the problem. I searched for the messed up settings for 2 hours before I gave up, decided my entire game set-up was just hosed and reinstalled everything from scratch. Even Steam! Now, I have a new SSD drive, fresh install of Windows 10, very light system usage load, core unparking program, SKSE ini tweaks, clean file folder setup, have all the restrictions/allowances sorted out... This rig isn't Top of the Line but it defaults to Ultra High settings for game play. I have at least 3G of VRAM. Momory blocks for the game have been adjusted correctly and in the correct (far as I can tell according to all the tutorials) ini file. Oh, and my play-through with Vilja, added to all this stuff (90-some active mods), is basically flawless. I even had a mod build running an ENB last week, before I overhauled everything, and aside from FPS loss, it was also flawless, with MO, not NMM. I'm utterly at a loss. I never had this kind of trouble with NMM. *sigh* But I love the clean, separate profiles made possible by MO. I just can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong and all the help topics seem to be from 2012-2014 and useless. Oh, OR they tell you to turn on Papyrus logging and check those logs. Also useless. I know better than that. Ugh. Here's my mod list/order, just for S&Gs. I MUST be doing something wrong. Help would be hugely appreciated! 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Campfire.esm 7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 8 8 ApachiiHair.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 a AzarHair.esm 11 b UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 12 c HighResTexturePack01.esp 13 d HighResTexturePack02.esp 14 e HighResTexturePack03.esp 15 f Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 16 10 Cutting Room Floor.esp 17 11 SkyUI.esp 18 12 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp 19 13 more plants all extra.esp 20 14 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 21 15 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 22 16 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 23 17 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 24 18 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 25 19 Cloaks.esp 26 1a Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 27 1b 1nivWICCloaks.esp 28 1c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 29 1d Run For Your Lives.esp 30 1e SMIM-Merged-All.esp 31 1f UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 32 20 Frostfall.esp 33 21 FalmerBanes Alchemist Shack Skyrim Version.esp 34 22 Hunterborn.esp 35 23 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp 36 24 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 37 25 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 38 26 WetandCold.esp 39 27 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 40 28 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 41 29 TrueStorms.esp 42 2a TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp 43 2b mintylightningmod.esp 44 2c MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp 45 2d 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 46 2e When Vampires Attack.esp 47 2f Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 48 30 moveit.esp 49 31 RaceMenu.esp 50 32 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 51 33 USLEEPSurvivalModPatch.esp Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp 52 34 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 53 35 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 54 36 Bijin Wives.esp 55 37 Dark Brotherhood - Shrouded Armor Overhaul.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 56 38 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp 57 39 ElvenRogueArmor.esp 58 3a zz_GDRAHoods.esp 59 3b GDZZJJDH.esp 60 3c nordicrangerarmor.esp 61 3d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 62 3e The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 63 3f Babette.esp 64 40 RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp 65 41 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 66 42 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 67 43 Hedge Mage Armor.esp 68 44 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 69 45 KS Hairdo's.esp 70 46 RaceMenuMimic.esp 71 47 Convenient Horses.esp 72 48 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp 73 49 female mannequins.esp 74 4a female mannequins in homes.esp 75 4b AMatterOfTime.esp 76 4c SleekSteel_StandAlone.esp 77 4d Convenient Horse Herding.esp 78 4e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Glass Variants.esp 79 4f Bijin NPCs.esp 80 50 Serana.esp 81 51 Valerica.esp 82 52 SGEyebrows.esp 83 53 Brows.esp 84 54 FreckleMania.esp 85 55 BHWarPaints.esp 86 56 Armored Circlets.esp 87 57 Hedge Mage Armor - Craftable Module.esp 88 58 Hedge Mage Armor - Bonus Without Hood.esp 89 59 RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp 90 5a RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 91 5b Brothers.esp 92 5c Bijin Warmaidens.esp 93 5d RLO - Dungeons for ELnFX.esp 94 5e RLO - Illuminated Spells for ELnFX.esp 95 5f RLO - Major City Interiors for ELnFX.esp 96 60 RLO - Minor Cities & Town Interiors for ELnFX.esp Edited September 20, 2016 by nomaroos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Yikes. That's a ton of problems. First off, the campfire and frostfall esps. Are you editing them either with the CK or TES5Edit? Are you running a proccer program of some type? Are there in your Skyrim/data folder? MO only puts created or edited files in the overwrite folder, so they must be getting edited somehow. My guess is that's the source of a lot of your problems. The other thing I'd recommend is that you use TES5edit to identify conflicts. If two files are conflict in the WhiterunJorrvaskr cell, then that's probably your problem. If not... well, try to patch all the conflicts you can or rearrange conflicting esps and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Second question, are you using mod organizer one or two? You should be using MO1 (available here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?) rather than MO2. MO2 is a WIP that's designed for 64-bit games (primarily FO4, but I think Tannin intends to expand it to others). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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