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[Takuumi]

2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

[Arthmoor]

In response to post #115985393.

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Takuumi wrote: 2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2. It doesn't, because Skyrim Together doesn't think people should be using 1.6 and cooked up some lame excuse about ESL files as a reason for it.

[DarkAngel285989]

Will USSEP 4.2.8 work on Skyirm version 1.6.353? I havent went up yet due to some mods still stuck on 1.6.353 like powerofthrees, DAR, etc.

[Arthmoor]

In response to post #115986943.

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DarkAngel285989 wrote: Will USSEP 4.2.8 work on Skyirm version 1.6.353? I havent went up yet due to some mods still stuck on 1.6.353 like powerofthrees, DAR, etc.

Tell me. What do the big red letters on the description page say?

[fraquar]

In response to post #115985393. #115985563 is also a reply to the same post.

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Takuumi wrote: 2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

Arthmoor wrote: 1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2. It doesn't, because Skyrim Together doesn't think people should be using 1.6 and cooked up some lame excuse about ESL files as a reason for it.

That's an odd comment Arthmoor considering that is the byproduct of a project that is literally as old as the game itself AND recently updated to ONLY use 1.6 and beyond.   

Maybe like you, they have their own reasons for the decisions they make, when  they make them - and they are non-negotiable?  

Edited by fraquar, 07 October 2022 - 11:00 pm.

[Arthmoor]

In response to post #115985393. #115985563, #115995008 are all replies on the same post.

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Takuumi wrote: 2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

Arthmoor wrote: 1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2. It doesn't, because Skyrim Together doesn't think people should be using 1.6 and cooked up some lame excuse about ESL files as a reason for it.

fraquar wrote: That's an odd comment Arthmoor considering that is the byproduct of a project that is literally as old as the game itself AND recently updated to ONLY use 1.6 and beyond.   

Maybe like you, they have their own reasons for the decisions they make, when  they make them - and they are non-negotiable?  

I'm sure they do, but their reasoning makes no sense since 1.5 also supported ESL files.

[Madcat221]

In response to post #115985393. #115985563, #115995008, #115995188 are all replies on the same post.

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Takuumi wrote: 2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

Arthmoor wrote: 1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2. It doesn't, because Skyrim Together doesn't think people should be using 1.6 and cooked up some lame excuse about ESL files as a reason for it.

fraquar wrote: That's an odd comment Arthmoor considering that is the byproduct of a project that is literally as old as the game itself AND recently updated to ONLY use 1.6 and beyond.   

Maybe like you, they have their own reasons for the decisions they make, when  they make them - and they are non-negotiable?  

Arthmoor wrote: I'm sure they do, but their reasoning makes no sense since 1.5 also supported ESL files.

Five years ago this month 1.5.X introduced the ESL module.

Edited by Madcat221, 08 October 2022 - 03:07 am.

[Arthmoor]

In response to post #115949928.

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Madcat221 wrote: NOTE: We are aware of the Epic Store release version. So far, it's looking like the Epic version has a different version number, and no updates have been induced on at least GOG with the Epic release. It looks like each platform has its own sub-version of 1.6, with Steam (currently) with .640, GOG with .659, and Epic with .678. We have not yet checked to see if the vanilla modules are identical, but I'd bet my drakes that they are, since the GOG version's modules have already been examined and determined to be such.

It appears to be the case that the Epic version simply has a new .exe file like GoG did with no material changes to any of the data files that we need to concern ourselves with.

Of note, the Epic copy can access the mods at bethesda.net and the Creation Club menu and apparently does not require the store client to be running in order to play the game. So I guess that's cool? :P

[Takuumi]

In response to post #115985393. #115985563, #115995008, #115995188, #116003063, #116019288, #116020238 are all replies on the same post.

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Takuumi wrote: 2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

Arthmoor wrote: 1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2. It doesn't, because Skyrim Together doesn't think people should be using 1.6 and cooked up some lame excuse about ESL files as a reason for it.

fraquar wrote: That's an odd comment Arthmoor considering that is the byproduct of a project that is literally as old as the game itself AND recently updated to ONLY use 1.6 and beyond.   

Maybe like you, they have their own reasons for the decisions they make, when  they make them - and they are non-negotiable?  

Arthmoor wrote: I'm sure they do, but their reasoning makes no sense since 1.5 also supported ESL files.

Madcat221 wrote: Five years ago this month 1.5.X introduced the ESL module.

Takuumi wrote: still
i prefer get more clear answer what "reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address."
could mean...
as in one place it could be something like game breaking bugs
but in some it could be just "free cheats" (as i asked. about PROFITABLE  to player exploits only)
does USSEP fixing those?
like does it actually hides "all" merchant chests properly
and stuff like that
that player could use for own profits.....
as if yes..
then USSEP is bad....(for me)
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and about working with skyrim together..
ummm
i think i seen skyrim together could work with "Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE"
that forces to install USSEP
that i won't do before proper answer to my 1st question

Wolfpack49 wrote: You're acting like you are entitled to some kind of specific answer.  You're not. Use it. Don’t use it. We don’t care. 

what the point in removing  my additional question?
i think i should repeat it once again....
as i wasn't answered enough both times
does USSEP. removes any profitable exploits...
does it do things like moving accesible vendor chests and other things that could profit player

[Madcat221]

In response to post #115985393. #115985563, #115995008, #115995188, #116003063, #116019288, #116020238, #116025018 are all replies on the same post.

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Takuumi wrote: 2 questions from all new to USSEP thing.
does it fix any "profitable exploits or dupes" and chests/etc
and
how it works with skyrim together?

Arthmoor wrote: 1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2. It doesn't, because Skyrim Together doesn't think people should be using 1.6 and cooked up some lame excuse about ESL files as a reason for it.

fraquar wrote: That's an odd comment Arthmoor considering that is the byproduct of a project that is literally as old as the game itself AND recently updated to ONLY use 1.6 and beyond.   

Maybe like you, they have their own reasons for the decisions they make, when  they make them - and they are non-negotiable?  

Arthmoor wrote: I'm sure they do, but their reasoning makes no sense since 1.5 also supported ESL files.

Madcat221 wrote: Five years ago this month 1.5.X introduced the ESL module.

Takuumi wrote: still
i prefer get more clear answer what "reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address."
could mean...
as in one place it could be something like game breaking bugs
but in some it could be just "free cheats" (as i asked. about PROFITABLE  to player exploits only)
does USSEP fixing those?
like does it actually hides "all" merchant chests properly
and stuff like that
that player could use for own profits.....
as if yes..
then USSEP is bad....(for me)
______________________________
and about working with skyrim together..
ummm
i think i seen skyrim together could work with "Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE"
that forces to install USSEP
that i won't do before proper answer to my 1st question

Wolfpack49 wrote: You're acting like you are entitled to some kind of specific answer.  You're not. Use it. Don’t use it. We don’t care. 

Takuumi wrote: what the point in removing  my additional question?
i think i should repeat it once again....
as i wasn't answered enough both times
does USSEP. removes any profitable exploits...
does it do things like moving accesible vendor chests and other things that could profit player

1: It was in fact responded to. Quoth Arthmoor:

1. It fixes exploits that were reported to us that Bethesda themselves did not address.

2: If a post was removed, then do not repost it. This is not a free-for-all here.