In response to post #54519678. #54524763, #54528583, #54530293, #54531573, #54565978, #54570838, #54582228 are all replies on the same post.Well we're getting closer I think, PapyrusUtil for SE was just released...
ParagonFury wrote: So I guess the big question over everyone's heads is this;
Is Chesko behind Survival Mode on the Creation Club? And does this mean that Frostfall is dead and we have to choose between FF/CF and SKSE mods?
Because while it would be nice of Chesko to work on both Survival and FF, it would also be financially stupid to of him to work on a project that directly cuts into his profits and may even be forbidden from doing it by Bethesda (since it's a clear conflict of interest).
I ask because SSE players are now stuck in a bind; a vitally important mod, Frostfall and CF, does not work with SKSE. But MANY mods that require or work much better with SKSE are coming out now, including Immersive Creatures, updated iNeed, Immersive HUD etc. and many of those are considered equally valuable to the Skyrim experience. We'd like to know now if we should wait for the FF update or abandon it and find alternative Survival Mods and/or accept no SKSE.
Koocai wrote: Chesko suggested on Reddit that he would be interested in supporting a non-pre-release version of SKSE64 which included support for PapyrusUtil.
This is what makes me think that he's actually not involved with Survival mode. If he's expressing interest in updating FF then obviously all we need to do is wait a bit more for an updated SKSE64. I would guess maybe another month or so at most and we'll have an updated FF. If that month or so passes and there isn't any SKSE64 updated - and no word from Chesko - then I would personally just give up on FF for the time being.
I've been waiting to play Skyrim again ever since Special Edition was first released and now that all those mods you listed are finally updated, the only loose end is Chesko's mods for me.
SanguinBlack wrote: And there is the thing that even IF Chesko isn't behind SM and wanted to update Frostfall, Bethesda could still impose an embargo on Frostfall or Chesko himself. Because almost nobody would buy SM if there is a better alternative free of charge. We may never learn the truth.
I hope it doesn't come to that.
ttabakova wrote: You all seem to forget about Sony users on consoles. They are the majority of CC audience. SM will always have its users.
There are also always people who don't believe in modders and trust Bethesda. You may not see them because they are obviously not Nexus users, but they are out there.
Finally, there are people who want a simplier survival experience and will opt for SM instead of installing Campfilre+Frostfall+iNeed or alternative.
I don't think Bethesda cares. An example would be easy to find: someone has released an alternative to several CC weapon mods, providing the same weapon with another mesh/texture/quest. Haven't seen them taken down.
So, I advise you stop freaking out and suspecting conspiracy, and just wait a bit ). Chesko is just busy with real life.
SanguinBlack wrote: I'm now %100 sure that there is race called ''wait for iters'' who appear on some internet platforms and tell people to stop complaining and wait even though no one actually is complaining. This behaviour is thought to be how wait for iters try to attact opposite gender by using a simple scripted sentence under every discussion.
No one is freaking out or looking for conspiracy adventures dude and thanks for the advice, otherwise we would never have thought of ''waiting for it.''
TheMagician16 wrote: Ttbakova is correct. People need to stop freaking out. Bethesda isn't the bad guys even if you want it to be true. They have stated many times that free mods are NOT in danger. Just because there is a free alternative doesn't mean they'll not allow Chesko to work on it. The simple truth is this: Bethesda loves mods as much as us and they want everyone to have access to mods, no matter platform, and the only way to justify that is to monetize it.
SanguinBlack wrote: No one is freaking out and no one needs your pointless advice to wait, captain obvious'.
So Chesko is here to delete comments afterall
TheMagician16 wrote: Plenty of people are freaking out, you're not alone with your concerns judging by Reddit and Youtube comments. You said something along the lines of "hope it doesn't come to that" which to me sounded like you did show signs of "freaking out".