Crashes on cell transition to Whiterun

[PresidentDylan5]

Another player asking for help with instability :tongue:. My game seems fairly stable for what testing I've done on it so far, but I've had relatively frequent crashes when entering Whiterun, either from an interior or outside. Pretty sure this has nothing to do with memory as stress testing doesn't see my RAM or VRAM usage go above 3.5gb according to Skyrim Performance Monitor. I use the 'crash fixes' mod with UseOSAllocators and crash logging turned on and have produced three logs:

 

• Leaving Bannered Mare:
• Leaving Belethor's:
• Leaving Arcadia's Cauldron:

My load order:

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm
7 7 Falskaar.esm
8 8 Wyrmstooth.esp
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
12 c WM Flora Fixes.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
STEP Vanilla Optimized Textures - Standard.esp
STEP DLC Optimized Textures - Standard.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
13 d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
14 e Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
15 f Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
16 10 TouringCarriages.esp
17 11 Cutting Room Floor.esp
18 12 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
19 13 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
20 14 Guard Dialogue Overhaul - IA and CRF.esp
21 15 Immersive Weapons.esp
22 16 Unique Uniques.esp
23 17 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
24 18 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
25 19 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
26 1a PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
27 1b PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
28 1c PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
29 1d BetterQuestObjectives.esp
30 1e Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
31 1f Dead Body Collision.esp
32 20 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
33 21 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
34 22 SkyUI.esp
35 23 iHUD.esp
36 24 RaceMenu.esp
37 25 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
38 26 ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
39 27 TakeNotes.esp
40 28 iActivate.esp
41 29 vAutosaveManager.esp
42 2a AMatterOfTime.esp
43 2b Beards.esp
44 2c Brows.esp
45 2d Helgen Reborn.esp
46 2e 3DNPC.esp
47 2f EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
48 30 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
49 31 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
50 32 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
51 33 Combat Evolved.esp
52 34 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
53 35 SMIM Merged Plugins.esp
54 36 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
55 37 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
56 38 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
57 39 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
58 3a Point The Way.esp
59 3b TheChoiceIsYours.esp
60 3c NonEssentialChildren.esp
61 3d Book Covers Skyrim.esp
62 3e Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
63 3f FarmhouseChimneys.esp
64 40 EmbersHD.esp
65 41 iNeed.esp
66 42 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
67 43 AOS.esp
68 44 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
69 45 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
70 46 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
71 47 FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar+Wyrmstooth.esp
72 48 Paper World Map - Wyrmstooth.esp
73 49 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
74 4a RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
75 4b RDO - iAFT Patch.esp
76 4c High Level Enemies.esp
77 4d CACO Patches Merged.esp
78 4e Frostfall.esp
79 4f Immersive Horses.esp
80 50 RDO - Immersive Horses Patch.esp
81 51 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
82 52 Craftable Horse Barding.esp
83 53 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
84 54 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
85 55 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp
86 56 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
87 57 Touring Carriages Patches.esp
88 58 PilgrimsDelight.esp
89 59 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
90 5a Immersive Music.esp
91 5b ELFXEnhancer.esp
92 5c imp_helm_legend.esp
93 5d ORM-Arvak.esp
94 5e GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
95 5f DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
96 60 Helgen North Gate Fix.esp
97 61 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
98 62 Gildergreen Regrown.esp
99 63 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
100 64 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
101 65 BlockSparkles.esp
102 66 Equipping Overhaul.esp
103 67 Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp
104 68 Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
105 69 Footprints.esp
106 6a WondersofWeather.esp
107 6b Better Dynamic Snow.esp
108 6c Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
109 6d SFO - Dragonborn.esp
110 6e TradeBarter.esp
111 6f Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
112 70 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
113 71 Traps Make Noise.esp
114 72 VioLens.esp
115 73 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp
116 74 RDO - Invisbility Eyes Fix Patch.esp
117 75 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
118 76 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
119 77 SFMFollower.esp
120 78 Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
121 79 Dummy File 1.esp
122 7a RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
123 7b No Snow Under the Roof - 3DNPC Patch.esp
124 7c dovahkiinrelax.esp
125 7d High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
126 7e NARC-Falskaar.esp
127 7f DeadlyDragons.esp
128 80 NARC-FalskaarConsistencyPatch.esp
129 81 NARC-ImmersiveHorsesConsistencyPatch.esp
130 82 JZBai_CrossbowManualReload.esp
131 83 SimplyKnock.esp
132 84 PerkusMaximus_SimplyKnock.esp
133 85 Paper World Map - Falskaar.esp
134 86 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
135 87 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
136 88 High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp
137 89 ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp
138 8a 3DNPC Followers Perk Addon - PerMa Edition.esp
139 8b Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
140 8c Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - AOS.esp
141 8d TrueStorms.esp
142 8e YOT - Frostfall Module 3.0.esp
143 8f YOT - iNeed.esp
144 90 Climates of Tamriel - Dawnguard and Dragonborn Patches Merged.esp
145 91 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
146 92 mintylightningmod.esp
147 93 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
148 94 PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp
149 95 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
150 96 Wyrmstooth - PerMa Patch.esp
151 97 Vividian Weather Patch Cot AOS - True Storms CoT Patch.esp
152 98 Enhanced Blood - IWIE Patch.esp
153 99 NARC Falksaar - Deadly Dragons Patch.esp
154 9a Wyrmstooth - RW2 - Paper World Map Patch.esp
155 9b Dummy File 2.esp
156 9c RW2 - ELFX Patch.esp
157 9d Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
158 9e ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp
159 9f The Choice is Yours - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
160 a0 Civil War Cleanup.esp
161 a1 Falksaar - SFO.esp
162 a2 ICH - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
163 a3 RDO - CACO Patch.esp
164 a4 AOS Patches.esp
165 a5 NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
166 a6 Book Covers Skyrim Patches.esp
167 a7 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
168 a8 Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
169 a9 GoToBed.esp
170 aa GoToBed - Hearthfire coffins fix.esp
171 ab Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
172 ac Better Quest Objectives Patches.esp
173 ad FarmhouseChimneysLAL+CRF.esp
174 ae Cutting Room Floor Patches.esp
175 af Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
176 b0 Alternate Start Patches.esp
177 b1 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp
178 b2 Pre PaMa Patch - Improved Closefaced Helmets Patch.esp
179 b3 Pre PaMa Patch - AOS Patch.esp
180 b4 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp
181 b5 warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp
182 b6 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp
183 b7 Warburgs - USLEEP Patch.esp
184 b8 Merge Patch (Core Setup).esp
185 b9 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
186 ba Unlimited Bookshelves Patches.esp
187 bb Combat Evolved - Post Merge Patch.esp
188 bc CACO - Post Merge Patch.esp
189 bd CACO Patches - Post Merge Patch.esp
190 be Post Bashed Patch LVL.esp
191 bf USLEEP Post Bashed Patch.esp
192 c0 iActivate Patch (Core Setup).esp
193 c1 PatchusMaximus.esp
194 c2 Post_PatchusMaximus_GiantsAIFix.esp
195 c3 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
196 c4 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
197 c5 FNIS.esp
198 c6 SolitudeExterior.esp
199 c7 WhiterunExterior.esp
200 c8 DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

Thanks for any help on this

[PresidentDylan5]

*bump*

[ymf331]

all those logs refer to the same formid, a placed object called 'fxambsnowblowingplane' in cell 0,13 which is inside some sort of tunnel or cave or something. i don't have any mods that change anything about that, so i'm not really sure. could just be something relative to the object? i'm not sure but maybe it could be perma conflicting with something. maybe you can find it if you do this:

 

1) open tes5edit and load all your plugins

 

2) right-click in the left pane and click on 'apply filter'

 

3) uncheck the second and fourth boxes in the upper left and hit 'ok'

 

4) wait a while...

 

5) type '8903c' in the box above the left pane, to the left labeled 'formid' and hit enter

 

6) see if there's something fishy going on there

Edited October 31, 2016 by ymf331

[PresidentDylan5]

Thanks a lot for the reply! Searching the formid reveals that there is no mod that edits it, although I have changed my load order a bit; I have removed Immersive Citizens and a couple of other mods. I felt that Immersive Citizens might somehow be the culprit since it edits Whiterun AI and nowhere else I think, I will test stability again and post back.

[ymf331]

it also edits the navmeshes and adds some stuff, but since there's no actual snow objects in whiterun i think it might be some interior nearby. like on the map it's out under the ocean in a tunnel-looking thing west of markarth, so for all i know it could connect from any of the ugrids close enough to load up when you hit whiterun. i just couldn't find anything that said what actual location that was.

[PresidentDylan5]

Sorry for such delayed reply - I was a bit busy and wasn't paying attention to Skyrim for a while. I'm not running with Immersive Citizens now and Whiterun and the game in general seems more stable. Yeah the information in that crash log seems quite strange :D