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Hy! I also had several CTD or continuous freeze in the area near Whiterun especially. My problem was a conflict between re-textures mod for Skyrim 2011 installed on Skyrim SE, eliminating those, CTD has not occured anymore.

I hope I was helpful! Bye! ;D

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I'm now having this issue. I've deactivated SMIM, deactivated Blood Textures, and I can't seem to narrow it down. This is a fairly new game (only 16 hours in) and the freeze only happens at semi-random places, but always when a save happens. Regular save or quick save, doesn't matter. Still happens. If anyone can provide any insight, I'd greatly appreciate it!!! I can't really go back to a previous save because my saves jump from Level 3 to Level 17. There's no in between.

 

 

 

 

EDIT #1: Ok, so I've also run TES5Edit and LOOT and neither of them seem to find any conflicts. The freeze only seems to happen after a questline update (the Thieves guild, specifically stage 15 of the "Trinity Restored" quest.) I haven't tried advancing the quest past that to see if it's just that stage or not, but it's something.

 

EDIT #2: Ok, that seemed to work. I just used ~setstage TG08a 20, then immediately went to setstage TG08a 30, and I was able to save and move on. Weird how it was something about that specific stage number.

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I started having freezing issues too lately and so far it seems to be fine after uninstalling SSE Fixes

I never had issues with SSE Fixes all was fine all tho I probably didnt needed as much with only 70.esp mods.

But lately I downloaded lot of mods many of which change game a lot. For example animation changing mods such as 360 Walk and Run Plus AND YY Animations SSE and Ordinator or Immersive Armors

 

360 Walk and Run Plus AND YY Animations SSE - changes some animations

Ordinator - changes perk menu completely

Immersive Armors - comes with its own menu for those armors and I remember back in oldrim somebody asked how is that possible and somebody replied that it is hard coding

 

From what I understand SSE Fixes is fixing issue with game called iteration loops. He explained on his page that (quote):

There is a bug in game code where if you have more than a few dozen ESP or ESM plugins installed the game FPS will become much lower in some areas. The ESP or ESM file content does not matter at all they can be empty dummy plugins with no masters. This happens because there are at least 4 nested iteration loops the game does in every frame and the lowest loop iterates for each plugin installed, normally this wouldn't be an issue but this code runs on multiple threads and for each plugin it locks a mutex every time, this is very slow. It's not even really a bug, just bad implementation.

 

My question is : Is it possible that some "heavy" mods cant be used without these iteration loops ? That SSE Fixes wasnt meant to be used with such heavy mods ? (sorry if I am asking stupid question I dont know much about these things and only trying to find solution)

 

EDIT: Nope. Freez again even without SSE Fixes. I really need to reinstall the game its total mess after trying and testing so many different mods :/

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I'm having the same problem with SSE freezing randomly. Right now, it's outside of Whiterun just past the Loreius farm. This is the third game this has happened to me. Everything is going fine, then about level 30, bam! The game starts freezing in random areas (mostly outside of Whiterun). I have SMIM installed, but I don't know if that's the cause... I checked every mod in this playthrough for errors through xEdit, Wrye Bash, and Loot, and couldn't find any. I looked for conflicts and there weren't any that would cause this -- I guess, I'm not an expert when it comes to things like navemesh, but I didn't see anything that stood out.

 

Besides, I've walked the road I'm stuck at many times in this playthrough and it didn't crash before now. It's very frustrating because I hate to have to start over (again). The last time I tried to work around a particular spot to prevent freezing the game, it started freezing in other random areas, so I know whatever's happening isn't particular to the Whiterun area... that just happens to be the place it's occurring the most in my games.

 

If anyone's figured out a fix, that would be great.

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This started happening to me. It doesn't seem location specific. I run a heavy mod list and have been booting mods to try and narrow it down. Having no luck narrowing it down whatsoever. It's just a full freeze, mouse and screen. Cant alt tab, only task manager and a force end. I have SMIM, the blood texture one, Skylands and JK Skyrim among other armor and weapon ones. Cant figure it out.

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I'm taking a guess, here, based on prior dated posts, not this thread ... and my own experience.

> IF < you are running the game through SKSE 64 ... do you have some mods that are ready for it?

 

I have a number of mods that are not upgraded yet, because the Mod Creator is awaiting SKSE 64 to be out of Alpha and into a solid Beta version.

 

Again, > IF < you are using SKSE 64 .. if not: Ignore this post. :)

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Funny, a lot of people are mentioning frequent crashes or freezes around Whiterun. That's been a problem area for me too. I can play for hours in any of the other holds without any sort of issue, but as soon as I enter Whiterun hold it's like I'm virtually guaranteed to crash at least once.

 

Here's my load order, in case anyone wants to play show-me-yours to look for commonalities.

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
arnima.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Undeath.esp
SkyTweak.esp
Wyrmstooth - Realistic Ownership.esp
Wyrmstooth - Dragon Lore.esp
Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp
Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
Simple AUA.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
DBM_RSChildren.esp
more plants all extra.esp
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
DBM_ISC_Patch.esp
RSChildren.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
SAFO.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
MLU.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
MLU - Summermyst.esp
Blues Skyrim.esp
CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
BreezehomeByLupus.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
MoonAndStar_RSC_Patch.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
BloodmoonRising.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
NARC.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
MLU - Immersive Armors.esp
moonpath.esp
JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
MLU_HeavyArmory Patch.esp
OwnCivilWar.esp
JK's Falkreath.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Point The Way.esp
Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp
JK's Rorikstead.esp
Tes Pagran Village.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
JK's Dawnstar.esp
SkyrimSewers.esp
Tes Arena Nimalten.esp
UndeathClassicalLichdom SSE.esp
BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
MLU - Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
CFTO.esp
JK's Riverwood.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
TES Arena Amol.esp
DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
JKs Dragon Bridge.esp
JK's Morthal.esp
Tes Vernim Wood.esp
DBM_MLU_Patch.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
TES DunstadGrove.esp
JK's Ivarstead.esp
CWIRLSSEPatch.esp
CWICRFSEPatch.esp
MLU - ZIA.esp
Wyrmstooth - Landmarks.esp
Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks.esp
MajesticMountains.esp
JKs Skaal Village.esp
UMSOingredientCrafting.esp
TradeBarterLite.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp
SAFO - SkyTEST RAP.esp
DBM_SAFO_Patch.esp
HOR Creatures-Flora Respawn Fix Patch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
DBM_IW_Patch.esp
DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
iNeed.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
Simply Stronger Dragons.esp
WorldEaterBeater.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
DBM_HA_Patch.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp
JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp
NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
MeekoReborn.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Increased Bounty & Guild Rewards - Reduced Fedex.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp
HOR-Flora Respawn Fix Patch.esp
increasedbountygoldz.esp
BCS_NotSoFast_Patch.esp
Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
CoT-AlternativeSoundsSE.esp
Joy of Perspective.esp
Disparity.esp
Wyrmstooth - Craftable Sets.esp
LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
SERR Summermyst Patch SE.esp
WetandCold.esp
RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp
UndeathClassicalLichdom Ordinator Patch.esp
JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp
CCO_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Skyshards.esp
ELE_SSE.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp
Scarcity SE - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity SE - 4x Loot Rarity.esp
ZSmash.esp
Simple Enchant Restriction Remover SE.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp

 

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Hello Community,

 

I also have complete PC Freeze with game back ground sounds. Nothing work anymore, im forced to reboot my pc.

 

At fact that the pc freeze, it is impossible to debug the guilty source by a tool (or i don't know how).

 

Its only happens on exteriors. I suspect that it happens when the weather changes or by rain. But im not sure.

Freezing also happens when I enter some villages and cities (often, but not always).

 

I'm using a huge list of mods. It will cause many hours to figure out the guilty mod, by the exclusion process (uninstalling and test "mod by mod) - I hope i can avoid that with your help.

 

I have to mention:
to install the mods, I followed the Northern Experience Guide. But I didn't followed it by the letter (I knew its not recommended) - so I skipped some mods and added other mods into the game.

 

Here my mod list and load-order:

Modwatch

 

 

What i think thats probably not responsible for the freezes:

 

My hardware:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core
GPU: GeForce RTX 2070 Super
RAM: 32 GB
BaseBoard: MPG X570 GAMING EDGE (MS-7C37)

 

 

My save file (freeze happends also by a complete new game)

 

Mods:

Obsidian Weathers and Seasons (I already uninstalled it and tested)

 

I thank you in advance for your time & help.

If someone can detect an error on my load-order or some suspicious mods in my mod-list. please let me know.

 

I would be very happy if i could avoid a completely new installation.

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Um, first off, you have 358 MODS that I can see.

 

1st - Skyrim has a mod limit of 250 + / - depending on your system, not 358.

.... 358 is seriously pushing it beyond running smoothly.

 

2nd - On top of the likelihood that you have issues seriously exceeding the mod limits for Skyrim.

.... You could also be facing mods that require X, Y or Z that are missing?

.... Plus you could easily have mods that conflict as 1 is trying to do what another is doing?

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