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[ousnius]

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Brandon007 wrote: Im trying to do a port of this mod http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8821-dwarven-rifle-variation-g-v23/

But the Inventory view gets dramatically altered when converting from Oldrim to SE. Is SSENif Optimizer supposed to do that?

ousnius wrote: The optimizer merely converts the meshes, it doesn't touch anything inventory related, so not sure.

Brandon007 wrote: It seems to, cause before conversion, teh inventory view looks fine. After conversion, the inventory view looks really small and far away. There is a node in each nif for the inventoryView is called BSInvMarker

If you select the old BSInvMarker and new BSInvMarker blocks in NifSkope, you will see that they're unchanged.

[Brandon007]

In response to post #54247678. #54249898, #54251498, #54251603 are all replies on the same post.

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Brandon007 wrote: Im trying to do a port of this mod http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8821-dwarven-rifle-variation-g-v23/

But the Inventory view gets dramatically altered when converting from Oldrim to SE. Is SSENif Optimizer supposed to do that?

ousnius wrote: The optimizer merely converts the meshes, it doesn't touch anything inventory related, so not sure.

Brandon007 wrote: It seems to, cause before conversion, teh inventory view looks fine. After conversion, the inventory view looks really small and far away. There is a node in each nif for the inventoryView is called BSInvMarker

ousnius wrote: If you select the old BSInvMarker and new BSInvMarker blocks in NifSkope, you will see that they're unchanged.

Then the converter has changed something else in the nifs that make them look differently.

[ousnius]

In response to post #54247678. #54249898, #54251498, #54251603, #54252283 are all replies on the same post.

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Brandon007 wrote: Im trying to do a port of this mod http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8821-dwarven-rifle-variation-g-v23/

But the Inventory view gets dramatically altered when converting from Oldrim to SE. Is SSENif Optimizer supposed to do that?

ousnius wrote: The optimizer merely converts the meshes, it doesn't touch anything inventory related, so not sure.

Brandon007 wrote: It seems to, cause before conversion, teh inventory view looks fine. After conversion, the inventory view looks really small and far away. There is a node in each nif for the inventoryView is called BSInvMarker

ousnius wrote: If you select the old BSInvMarker and new BSInvMarker blocks in NifSkope, you will see that they're unchanged.

Brandon007 wrote: Then the converter has changed something else in the nifs that make them look differently.

It seems like the mod doesn't have separate ground object/inventory meshes. You have to edit the plugin to point to new separate meshes for inventory/ground, then you need to copy the other NIFs there and turn off their skinning completely.

You can turn off skinning by loading the mesh into Outfit Studio, double-clicking each shape in the list to the right and unchecking the "Skinned" checkbox.

Currently, it's not possible to do this in NifSkope.

The issue happens because the ground object is skinned and the NIF Optimizer recalculates the bounds for these. There's no way around this from my side, you have to fix the mod itself.

Edited by ousnius, 09 October 2017 - 01:46 PM.

[Brandon007]

In response to post #54247678. #54249898, #54251498, #54251603, #54252283, #54254208 are all replies on the same post.

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Brandon007 wrote: Im trying to do a port of this mod http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8821-dwarven-rifle-variation-g-v23/

But the Inventory view gets dramatically altered when converting from Oldrim to SE. Is SSENif Optimizer supposed to do that?

ousnius wrote: The optimizer merely converts the meshes, it doesn't touch anything inventory related, so not sure.

Brandon007 wrote: It seems to, cause before conversion, teh inventory view looks fine. After conversion, the inventory view looks really small and far away. There is a node in each nif for the inventoryView is called BSInvMarker

ousnius wrote: If you select the old BSInvMarker and new BSInvMarker blocks in NifSkope, you will see that they're unchanged.

Brandon007 wrote: Then the converter has changed something else in the nifs that make them look differently.

ousnius wrote: It seems like the mod doesn't have separate ground object/inventory meshes. You have to edit the plugin to point to new separate meshes for inventory/ground, then you need to copy the other NIFs there and turn off their skinning completely.

You can turn off skinning by loading the mesh into Outfit Studio, double-clicking each shape in the list to the right and unchecking the "Skinned" checkbox.

Currently, it's not possible to do this in NifSkope.

The issue happens because the ground object is skinned and the NIF Optimizer recalculates the bounds for these. There's no way around this from my side, you have to fix the mod itself.

I cant load the nifs in outfit studio unfortuantely, the models look like they have exploded, and currently are unworkable.

[Mebantiza]

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Mebantiza wrote: Hi, I was updating my NIFs with 2.9.1, and on one of my passes, NO crashed, unhandled exception, and I was able to get this out of the log with only 4 meshes out of the 21 optimized. This is only case to date where the app actually crashed.

Error message > NIF version doesn't match old Skyrim. Skipping conversion.

Now I can see from the comments, this means the NIFs have already been optimized, except, this is not the case. The nifs in question are from the original Skyrim 32 mod, and all have timestamps from 2014. I have optimized these meshes in the past. Last successful optimize of these NIFs was late Nov 2016.

Thanks.

ousnius wrote: I would need the files that are causing issues.

Mebantiza wrote: I put them up @

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10?

In Old Section-says Do not D/L, easy to spot.

Thank you!

ousnius wrote: The NIF for the 4th statue is a little broken:
1.) There are three loose blocks in the NIF that you can see in NifSkope - a shader, material and specular property that are usually used in Fallout 3 files (not Skyrim or SSE).
2.) No shader is linked in the NiTriShape, so the one in the file is loose.

You need to delete the three loose blocks and manually add a new and correct shader + texture set to the shape. After that, you can optimize the NIF.

Statue 1, 2 and 3 were already optimized, regardless of what you said. The NIF headers even say "optimized with SSE NIF Optimizer".

I know the first three are, those are the from the attempt I made, the first three were not already optimized, they are from 2014, but do not seem to have the problem you mention.

Looking at the rest, it was just that one nif alone that gave NO fits-all the other optimized fine.

Thank you for looking at it, Ive never seen NO hang before so I thought I would report it. If something like it should happen again(doubtful), I know what to look for now.

Thank you.

Edited by Mebantiza, 09 October 2017 - 05:48 PM.

[dunc001]

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dunc001 wrote: So if I... say... f*cked up ever so slightly and ran the full optimization on EVERYTHING in my MO\mods folder, including all facegendata stuff...

Am I screwed or can I rerun the 'Head Parts Only' pass on just those meshes to fix them again? Or do I have to re-download all 101 mods with facegendata as pennance for my stoopidity...

ousnius wrote: Unfortunately, this is one of those situations where there is no easy way out anymore. :/
The only solution is to do what you said.

Vyxenne wrote: Dunc001, I will give you a little sympathetic sob tonight as I lay me head down. So sorry.

Thank you for the sympathy vote! My own fault for not reading stuff! Anyway, a day and a half later I'm now back to square one and ready to optimize the whole lot again. I have used Spluff to output all the winning meshes from my MO profile so I can work on them there and leave the mods original in case I do something daft again!

So from that I've separated out (by copying) meshes/actors and am currently going through and removing anything that is not Headparts. I'll then optimize the main output folder with the default optimization, and the thinned out actors folder with the head parts only optimization. I'll then load them in MO in that order and all should be good for the entire load order.

Spluff is an awesome tool for this sort of stuff as it saves you from having to manually work through hundreds of individual mods.

Edit - OK, I've just noticed in a couple of posts here you include hair, beards, etc as headparts. Does that mean I have also incorrectly processed everything in for example Apachi and KS Hairdos, Art of the Beard, etc? Is it literally everything head related? Are there any exceptions? Sorry for all the questions but I don't really want to go through all this again if I get it wrong! And what will happen in game of I miss correcting something I did wrong first time round?

Edit again - Actually Apachi and KS are the SE versions. Does that mean that when I ran the full optimization NifOpt would have skipped them and not done any damage?

Edited by dunc001, 10 October 2017 - 06:50 PM.

[2H34M]

Hi, big thx for this realy helpful tool.

Is it possible to add a new option for auto renaming the "0 NiNode" to "Scene Root" or maybe add own name via textfield?

[ousnius]

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2H34M wrote: Hi, big thx for this realy helpful tool.

Is it possible to add a new option for auto renaming the "0 NiNode" to "Scene Root" or maybe add own name via textfield?

The question is why?

[mpjbay]

Thank you for making this tool. <3

[2H34M]

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2H34M wrote: Hi, big thx for this realy helpful tool.

Is it possible to add a new option for auto renaming the "0 NiNode" to "Scene Root" or maybe add own name via textfield?

ousnius wrote: The question is why?

Ich antworte mal in deutsch. Ist einfacher dann zu erklären. (du kannst doch deutsch, wenn ich dein Profil so anschaue oder?)
Aktuell arbeite ich an einem Armor Replacer für meinen Custom Body.
Dabei konvertiere ich aber nicht einfach nur den Body sondern versuche neue Outfits zu entwerfen mit den vorliegenden Shapes.
Ich mixe also unterschiedliche Meshes und forme sie zu etwas Neuem.
Problem ist dabei immer das viele Mods, vorallem ältere, ihre 0 NiNode nicht Scene Root nennen.
Beim Copy & Paste in Nifskope muss ich das halt immer erst umbenennen damit kein Error aufkommt.
Ist dann bei gefühlt 100 Meshes irgendwann einfach nur nervig.
Daher die Frage. Es würde einfach ein paar Arbeitsschritte einfacher machen.