How to make a Book an aid item

[Mktavish]

Well looks like maybe there is an inherrent stop gate in "GetSelf" http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php?title=GetSelf

 

Where it says this :

• GetSelf will return 0 if called on a reference that has been created dynamically (for example, created via PlaceAtMe, or dropped from an inventory into the game world).

So a script placed on the book base-ID's like this might work ?

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SCN MyBookXPScript

Ref rSelf

Begin OnAdd Player

Set rSelf to GetSelf

If rSelf == 1

RewardXP 15

endif

End

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Which would automatically give XP on picking the book up from its original Ref instance , and hopefully not do the same if putting the book into a container then taking it back out again.

But also instead of using "RewardXP 15" Could just use "Player.Additem MyXPIngestible"

Which you would need to use a base effect , script type archetype. Which then had the line of "RewardXP 15"

But find out if you can limit picking the book up to a one time deal with that script first.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Mktavish

[PushTheWinButton]

EDIT: Scripts attached to objects have a unique instance for each reference, btw.

 

Sorry, I don't want to get involved with instructing you if you're not familiar with scripting because then I just end up troubleshooting beginner problems. It's simple stuff, so just following some basic tutorials and checking the wiki should get you through. Here are some example scripts which will work, though:

scn PreWarBookSCRIPT

begin OnAdd PlayerREF

	PlayerREF.AddItem PreWarBookAid 1 1
	RemoveMe

end

scn PreWarBookXPEffectSCRIPT

begin ScriptEffectStart

	if (GetIsReference PlayerREF)
		RewardXP 15
		AddItem PreWarBookUsed 1 0
	else
		AddItem PreWarBookAid 1 1
	endif

end

Edited December 3, 2016 by PushTheWinButton

[Mktavish]

 

EDIT: Scripts attached to objects have a unique instance for each reference, btw.

 

 

Thats good to know ... but it seems there would be a game bloat problem having a few hundred unique scripts keeping track of their own DoOnce short variable ... No ???

[PushTheWinButton]

 

 

EDIT: Scripts attached to objects have a unique instance for each reference, btw.

 

 

Thats good to know ... but it seems there would be a game bloat problem having a few hundred unique scripts keeping track of their own DoOnce short variable ... No ???

 

In theory, yes, but I think It's harder than people think to cause significant bloating. Remember, all the encounters in Fallout 3 use PlaceAtMe functions and there's technically no limit to how many times they can occur; likewise potion crafting and enchanting in Oblivion and Skyrim use cloned objects. Saves naturally increasing in size is just a fact of playing the game, and of using mods in general.

 

That's not to say you shouldn't avoid adding unnecessary stuff when possible. So in this case, yes, perhaps a different method would be more professional due to the number of objects.

Edited December 3, 2016 by PushTheWinButton

[americanwierdo]

 

EDIT: Scripts attached to objects have a unique instance for each reference, btw.

 

Sorry, I don't want to get involved with instructing you if you're not familiar with scripting because then I just end up troubleshooting beginner problems. It's simple stuff, so just following some basic tutorials and checking the wiki should get you through. Here are some example scripts which will work, though:

scn PreWarBookSCRIPT

begin OnAdd PlayerREF

	PlayerREF.AddItem PreWarBookAid 1 1
	RemoveMe

end

scn PreWarBookXPEffectSCRIPT

begin ScriptEffectStart

	if (GetIsReference PlayerREF)
		RewardXP 15
		AddItem PreWarBookUsed 1 0
	else
		AddItem PreWarBookAid 1 1
	endif

end

I like your idea for a script but it doesn't seem to be working. The problem is that it doesn't add experience. It will, however, add a used prewar book that appears in the Misc section. But the EXP doesn't go up at all.

 

What could be the problem? Does it have something to do with those references you mentioned?

[Mktavish]

His Idea is using 2 different scripts ... and the effect script must of course be on an effect.

 

IDK ... would be easier to just use my first script with the DoOnce. On the book Base-Id's

Edited December 11, 2016 by Mktavish

[PushTheWinButton]

The first script is for Pre-War books, to replace them with a new Aid Pre-War book when picked up. The second script is for the script effect which is to be attached to the aid Pre-War book.

[americanwierdo]

The first script is for Pre-War books, to replace them with a new Aid Pre-War book when picked up. The second script is for the script effect which is to be attached to the aid Pre-War book.

 

I know, and I did that. Both scripts work properly, it's just that the "rewardxp 15" part isn't working for some reason. I wonder if maybe there's another way to phrase it. Perhaps it's a parameter issue.

[Mktavish]

 

The first script is for Pre-War books, to replace them with a new Aid Pre-War book when picked up. The second script is for the script effect which is to be attached to the aid Pre-War book.

 

I know, and I did that. Both scripts work properly, it's just that the "rewardxp 15" part isn't working for some reason. I wonder if maybe there's another way to phrase it. Perhaps it's a parameter issue.

 

 

Hmmm perhaps " RewardXp" does not work inside of a "Begin ScriptEffectStart" block. Because RewardXP doesn't use a reference. And ScriptEffect requires one ??? IDK try a different block type ... but might need 2 scripts again just for that section. Or use a showmessage with buttons ?

Edited December 13, 2016 by Mktavish