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[Request] No mod feedback no fast download


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Hello everybody!

 

The more time passes the more it seems like theaverage user is too selfish to give feedback about the mods he downloaded.

 

This is frustrating for some modders and I think this should be fixed by limiting the download speed of users when they don't bring any feedback and downloaded a lot of mods whose authors allow endorsements and comments.

 

What do you think about it?

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Well, i don´t think it is a good thought to force someone to something. But yes you are right. The most guys seem to be selfish a lot - that is something I have already noticed for years. I have seen many modders go, just because they have not become enough endorsments (in there opinion). On the other site, some guys just don´t know what "endorsments" are. I think a good step would be to rename "endorsments" into "likes". The fazebook generation knows this letters better, i think. :smile:

 

And a advice? You can´t be frustrated then you build your mods just for you in the first place (and share them then later).

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Well, i don´t think it is a good thought to force someone to something.

Everytime a selfsih-badly educated user doesn't take the trouble to give feedback to a mod whose author allowed endorsements the user forces the modder to suffer frustration and to remain ignorant of what people think of his creations.

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I personally don't think this will get much support from the majority here. Not even most of the authors I know will even remotely care as much about this to support as a draconian measure to enforce it such as this.

 

I myself would've already disallowed all Endorsements on my mods years ago, as they serve me nothing, especially not ideas how to improve... Want me to know you enjoyed my mod? Tell me your mind! Everything else is as inexistent a feedback as never even coming back to click a button in the first place... if it weren't the only way for some to even give anything back at all, and I don't want to take this last resort means away from them as well, as useless as it is to me.

 

I hear ya' about the issue that is constantly slowing down feedback or not getting any useful feedback anymore at all to many an author I know. So many have quit for so many reasons during all the years I'm a member here, but most of the time the reasons have been more important than this... however, if the honest and useful feedback you receive for you to use and improve your work by is the only thing left making you keep up with all the other s**t, and this now vanishes as well, well... needless to say what your next move will be.

 

 

I'm witnessing the same negative development now every day. Ever since I started releasing my mods after I got asked to share, those long since forgotten times back, people regularly told me their mind in the comments, what they think was good, what they think was missing, what they would love to see, suggestions, requests, ideas, everything most invaluable feedback to me, which I used to enhance and improve my work many, many times...

 

...but over the last years this compensation, the only return I ever had from sharing my work, the only "use" public sharing ever had to me, has dwindled, and is now at the point of being perceivably inexistent anymore. All I get in return for maintaining public sharing is yet even more work to do, something I'm deliberately willing to have to deal with, mind you, for it's just the way I am.

 

But if now it becomes evident nobody's even interested in using my work anymore, I get none of the always useful and invaluable feedback in return anymore either, and most important of all the countless negatives of public sharing far outweigh the few remaining positives by a huge margin as well, well... needless to say how much will to continue with it is left inside me still right now.

 

 

However, I don't see limitation of download speeds for non-commenters/-endorsers to ever be a solution here, honestly.

 

For one, you can only endorse a mod after making sure you actually played it for a while (thus the time limit until you actually can endorse),

and for two, what use is feedback coming from users who haven't even downloaded your mod, yet, let alone actually looked at it?

 

Do you want to hear their thoughts about your description page or your screenshots, the mere presentation of your mod, before you allow them to download and actually test it with the normal speed? Of what use will that be?

 

And what use will it be "to you" the other way round, if only those people who commented and endorsed other authors' mods in the past can download your's with full speed, yet they never actually leave any of this feedback on your pages either?

 

 

I for one prefer to gauge the overall interest in me to keep sharing publicly from the overall amount of feedback I receive on a regular basis. Once it's not worth it anymore, in my eyes, well, then that's it, the end of it. And as soon as a certain someone asks me to perhaps share again, well, then that's enough already for me to do so again. It's up to the users now to let me know if they want me to continue to share with them or not, or that it's still of some use to me to do. No feathers ruffled on me, if nobody tells me so at all anymore.

 

 

 

That said... wasn't this already in talks in the past in a way? An incentivization program to "reward" users actively participating on the site? As we all know you cannot, and should not, force anybody to do anything they don't want to do... but you can incentivize them to do what you want them to do by offering rewards to those who do.

 

If I recall correctly the idea was to not have a fixed throttle of 1 MB max. for Non-Premium members as it is now, but to regularly raise, and lower again, the limit according to contributions to the site, that is, for example, endorsements given, mod pages tagged, useful posts or topics created and thanks received from people helped that way... something along that line was already proposed back then.

 

I wonder what came of it or if it's still in plan by now. Maybe we'll hear of it again after the site redesign though.

 

edit: Found it again: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/906602-blog-piece-ads-supporters-endorsements-and-bandwidth-throttling/

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DrakeTheDragon on 01 Dec 2016 - 03:13 PM said:

For one, you can only endorse a mod after making sure you actually played it for a while (thus the time limit until you actually can endorse),

and for two, what use is feedback coming from users who haven't even downloaded your mod, yet, let alone actually looked at it?

 

Do you want to hear their thoughts about your description page or your screenshots, the mere presentation of your mod, before you allow them to download and actually test it with the normal speed? Of what use will that be?

 

 

 

The more time passes the more it seems like the average user is too selfish to give feedback about the mods he downloaded.

 

This is frustrating for some modders and I think this should be fixed by limiting the download speed of users when they don't bring any feedback and downloaded a lot of mods whose authors allow endorsements and comments.

 

What do you think about it?

 

Hum............................^^

 

 

Nexusmods should make a poll with the modders to know who's for this solution. If the people looking for feedback as rare as you say then it won't take much for those who downloaded their mods to avoid penalties by leaving constructive feedback.

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Over the years, Dark0ne has made his position on things like this pretty clear; the Nexus asks/requires very little of its members, whether they are authors or players, except that they be polite and not deliberately trash others, others' mods, or others' games. That was one of the reasons why I became a Premium Member long before I was asked to join the Staff, and why I increased my support to a Lifetime Membership afterwards.

 

All aspects of participation here on the Nexus are essentially voluntary, and I don't see that changing. :thumbsup:

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Hello everybody!

 

The more time passes the more it seems like theaverage user is too selfish to give feedback about the mods he downloaded.

 

This is frustrating for some modders and I think this should be fixed by limiting the download speed of users when they don't bring any feedback and downloaded a lot of mods whose authors allow endorsements and comments.

 

What do you think about it?

If the uploader doesn't name their files good then you can't expect a review.

 

Name - Feature (ie; texture, overhaul, abilitiy) etc.

 

People would suffer from bad mod naming - I want to review but you don't know how good a mod is until it's used with other "must use" mods,... most people I've downloaded from said they don't update their mods anymore.

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