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Started a New Game, Had No Starter Magic. What Happend?


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I recently started a New Game in Skyrim, with the intention of playing a hybrid warrior and wizard. When I was done making my character I equipped a sword on one hand and wanted to put flames on the other. Yet when I when to the Magick/Spells Menu I had no starter spells, Race specific ability was the only thing there. Where or why are the spells gone?

 

Here's my Load Order if that helps:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
8 8 SGHairPackBase.esm
9 9 ApachiiHair.esm
10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm
11 b ApachiiHairMales.esm
12 c NPCs.esm
13 d TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
14 e hdtHighHeel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp
16 10 SkyUI.esp
17 11 iHUD.esp
18 12 AMatterOfTime.esp
19 13 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp
20 14 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
21 15 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
22 16 Vivid Landscapes.esp
23 17 immersive roads.esp
24 18 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
25 19 JKs Skyrim.esp
26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
27 1b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
28 1c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
29 1d mintylightningmod.esp
30 1e MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
31 1f WondersofWeather.esp
32 20 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
33 21 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
34 22 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
35 23 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
36 24 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
37 25 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
38 26 MikanEyes All in one.esp
39 27 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
40 28 Beards.esp
41 29 Brows.esp
42 2a SGEyebrows.esp
43 2b KS Hairdo's.esp
44 2c SGHairPackAIO.esp
45 2d Vividian - Torches Preset.esp
46 2e Vividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.esp
47 2f Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
48 30 DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp
49 31 Convenient Horses.esp
50 32 HonedMetal.esp
51 33 IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
52 34 When Vampires Attack.esp
53 35 SimplyKnock.esp
54 36 BHWarPaints.esp
55 37 AV1WarpaintPack.esp
56 38 AV1DragonPaint.esp
57 39 BFWarpaints.esp
58 3a ScarvesOfSkyrim - Linds.esp
59 3b LadyMask.esp
60 3c DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp
61 3d CharmingHighHeels.esp
62 3e Weapons and Armor fixes.esp
63 3f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
64 40 3DNPC.esp
65 41 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
66 42 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
67 43 Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp
68 44 RevampedExteriorFog.esp
69 45 TrueStorms.esp
70 46 Supreme Storms.esp
71 47 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
72 48 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
73 49 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp
74 4a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
75 4b KS Jewelry.esp
76 4c Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
77 4d Book Covers Skyrim.esp
78 4e RealisticWaterTwo.esp
79 4f Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
80 50 Descentintomadness2.esp
81 51 fallentreebridges.esp
82 52 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
83 53 Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
84 54 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
85 55 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
86 56 Undeath.esp
87 57 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
88 58 Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp
89 59 Immersive Weapons.esp
90 5a WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp
91 5b Laundry.esp
92 5c Run For Your Lives.esp
93 5d Cloaks.esp
94 5e SMIM-Merged-All.esp
95 5f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
96 60 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
97 61 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
98 62 SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp
99 63 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
100 64 ForgottenCity.esp
101 65 Unique Uniques.esp
102 66 Dr_Bandolier.esp
103 67 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp
104 68 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp
105 69 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
106 6a Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp
107 6b MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
108 6c TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
109 6d Colorful_Magic.esp
110 6e Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp
111 6f MLPSoulGems.esp
112 70 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
113 71 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
114 72 Sneak Tools.esp
115 73 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
116 74 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
117 75 Equippable Tomes.esp
118 76 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
119 77 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
120 78 DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
121 79 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
122 7a Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp
123 7b Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp
124 7c Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
125 7d MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
126 7e BlackSacramentArmor.esp
127 7f Mage Robes.esp
128 80 DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
129 81 ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp
130 82 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
131 83 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
132 84 Quick Start - Skip the Opening Sequence.esp
133 85 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
134 86 LustmordVampireArmor.esp
135 87 LindsVaerminaRobes_SA.esp
136 88 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp
137 89 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
138 8a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
139 8b PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
140 8c Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp
141 8d AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
142 8e 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp
AFT_iNPCFix.esp
143 8f FNIS.esp
144 90 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
145 91 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
146 92 XPMSE.esp
147 93 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
148 94 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
149 95 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
150 96 RaceMenu.esp
151 97 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
TES5Merged.esp
152 98 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
153 99 PatchusMaximus.esp
154 9a Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
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Load order potential issues:
1 JK Skyrim is not compatible with NPC editing mods, and particularly on the forums/post sections it mentions it is not compatible with Immersive NPCs and Cutting Room Floor. Might want to check on that.
2. You have Complete Crafting Overhaul. Make sure you've read the mod page for the required mods you need and what the proper load order it asks for for them.
3. Your Verdant plugin should probably go below your SFO Dragonborn, and make sure you've done the .ini changes they list on both mod pages.
4. I know Apocalypse messes with your spells and starting scripts, but it works wonderfully by itself, so perhaps something is conflicting with it. If you are using Mod Organizer, look in the conflicts section for this mod and see what is overwriting it. Perhaps put it lower in your load order.
5. Dance of death is outdated and is considered a dangerous mod. Use Violens instead.
6. If you have more than one mod affecting your perks, it perhaps could mess with some things and cause your issue, but I've never heard of it doing this. I know that any mod that messes with perks when you have Perkimus Maximus can conflict badly, but once again, I don't recognize anything.

What I think may be the problem would be something perhaps between your soulgems, colorful magic, souls to perks, apocalypse, and your shouts mod. I don't use any of these, but the culprit may be in there somewhere.

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Load order potential issues:

1 JK Skyrim is not compatible with NPC editing mods, and particularly on the forums/post sections it mentions it is not compatible with Immersive NPCs and Cutting Room Floor. Might want to check on that.

2. You have Complete Crafting Overhaul. Make sure you've read the mod page for the required mods you need and what the proper load order it asks for for them.

3. Your Verdant plugin should probably go below your SFO Dragonborn, and make sure you've done the .ini changes they list on both mod pages.

4. I know Apocalypse messes with your spells and starting scripts, but it works wonderfully by itself, so perhaps something is conflicting with it. If you are using Mod Organizer, look in the conflicts section for this mod and see what is overwriting it. Perhaps put it lower in your load order.

5. Dance of death is outdated and is considered a dangerous mod. Use Violens instead.

6. If you have more than one mod affecting your perks, it perhaps could mess with some things and cause your issue, but I've never heard of it doing this. I know that any mod that messes with perks when you have Perkimus Maximus can conflict badly, but once again, I don't recognize anything.

 

What I think may be the problem would be something perhaps between your soulgems, colorful magic, souls to perks, apocalypse, and your shouts mod. I don't use any of these, but the culprit may be in there somewhere.

I tried what you said and also uninstalled the dance of death for your recommendation. Nothing worked though, the game is perfectly stable. Just that the missing spells is bothering me. I ended up adding the starting spells for my race with the console commands.

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That "Colorful_Spells.esp" looks suspicious...

 

EDIT: Just looked at that mods comment section and it sounds horribly buggy and the author is MIA.

Disable that mod, and give it another whirl.

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I started another character again and this one did have some magic (a Breton) though it was not the magic they usually start with. I'm thinking that one of the mods I installed made it so certain races begin or not with magic. Such as Nords or Redguards being better warrior type character and Breton and Dark Elves being better wizard. IDK that's my though.

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Yeah, you may be right. I am not sure of a mod doing that, so it's news to me. You can always disable all of your magic mods, start a new game, see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, then slowly reactive each of the mods that mess with combat/magic one at a time and see which one it is.

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