No brawl dialogue options

[SassyMcSassafras]

I can't seem to take the brawl bets with any NPC that usually offers them. It's not that I can't fight, or that the fight glitches: the option just literally is not there. Ok so At first I thought it was my mods like obviously right? So I uninstalled all of them--every single one--and started a clean save in vanilla skyrim but here's the kicker: still no option to brawl with ANY npc that usually offers it. I thought maybe it was my level so I leveled up. Still nothing. Checked the integrity of the files. Still nothing.

 

I have NO idea what to do???? All other follower dialogues appear to work but I can't do any of the brawl quests, which means I can't get any of the brawl followers without cheating :{

 

Is there anything you guys can think of to fix this? I tried the brawl bug patches and of course I have USLEEP (most mods these days require it) so I'm kind of at a loss. The game is updated to the most recent version ofc, and I have all DLC, including the texture DLC installed.

 

 

EDIT:

Okay so I ended up completely reinstalling Skyrim and reinstalling a whole different set of mods and such to see if that would fix it and now I am getting not only the brawl glitch, but side quest glitches in general AND my skyrim is now running out of memory and crashing, despite me having uninstalled like 80% of my games before reinstalling Skyrim.

So for instance: I tried to talk to Ysolda, dialogue is normal but now she just cuts out instead of talking about needing a mammoth tusk. No brawls are available at all, the dialogue option also doesn't come up at all.

Skyrim crashes every like 20 to 30 minutes or so especially during loading screens or when passing into a building. I've tried various online fixes and while it made it BETTER it did not make it GO AWAY.

Keep in mind: This has never happened before. Even with a crap ton of mods I almost never had crashes.

 

I have an NVidia GeForce 840M card and skyrim has always auto-detected settings to Ultra High Quality.

I uh....Don't know what other stuff I would need to tell you guys? I run on windows 10 and I'm p sure my computer is like 32 bit? Or maybe it's not. I'm Not Great with computers.

 

 

Here is my new Mod Load Order:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm

7 7 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

8 8 RSkyrimChildren.esm

9 9 AzarHair.esm

10 a ApachiiHair.esm

11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp

12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp

13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp

14 e SimplyKnock.esp

15 f SOSRaceMenu.esp

16 10 SkyUI.esp

17 11 test01.esp

18 12 Faendal.esp

19 13 seranahair.esp

20 14 [kijikohair_malepack].esp

21 15 rrhair.esp

22 16 rrhairargonian.esp

23 17 rrhairkhajiit.esp

24 18 rrhair2.esp

25 19 rrhair3.esp

26 1a azarhair.esp

27 1b LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

28 1c high res hawk replacement - red.esp

29 1d healthyskeever.esp

30 1e deathwing inspired alduin reloaded.esp

31 1f reanimate fx.esp

32 20 tribal warpaint for females.esp

33 21 hornsareforever.esp

34 22 XPMSE.esp

35 23 kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp

36 24 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

37 25 HearthfireMultiKid.esp

38 26 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

39 27 unlimitedbookshelves.esp

40 28 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

41 29 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp

42 2a ELFX - Exteriors.esp

43 2b EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp

44 2c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

45 2d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

46 2e dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

47 2f dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

48 30 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

49 31 Footprints.esp

50 32 Unique Uniques.esp

51 33 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp

52 34 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

53 35 Immersive Jewelry.esp

54 36 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

55 37 clothingjewelryfix.esp

56 38 Sanctuary Reborn.esp

57 39 VHTNF.esp

58 3a hjerimtnf.esp

59 3b proudspiremanortnf.esp

60 3c GamEngagementrings.esp

61 3d JaxonzRenamer.esp

62 3e RichMerchants.esp

63 3f DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

64 40 WondersofWeather.esp

65 41 WetandCold.esp

66 42 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

67 43 KS Hairdo's.esp

68 44 Brows.esp

69 45 BHWarPaints.esp

70 46 FabLookEyes.esp

71 47 chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp

72 48 imp_helm_legend.esp

73 49 HelmetToggle.esp

74 4a FNIS.esp

75 4b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

76 4c UnreadBooksGlow.esp

77 4d Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

78 4e SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

79 4f RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp

80 50 RSChildren - Complete.esp

81 51 Serana.esp

82 52 Morwen.esp

83 53 Bijin Wives.esp

84 54 Camilla.esp

85 55 Grelka.esp

86 56 Muiri.esp

87 57 Senna.esp

88 58 Sylgja.esp

89 59 Taarie.esp

90 5a Temba.esp

91 5b Ysolda.esp

92 5c BW Beleval.esp

93 5d Frea.esp

94 5e BW Ingjard.esp

95 5f Adelaisa.esp

96 60 Aela.esp

97 61 Annekke.esp

98 62 BW Aranea.esp

99 63 BW Brelyna.esp

100 64 BW Delphine.esp

101 65 BW Eola.esp

102 66 BW Illia.esp

103 67 BW Jenassa.esp

104 68 Mjoll.esp

105 69 BW Njada Stonearm.esp

106 6a Rayya.esp

107 6b BW Ria.esp

108 6c Ugor.esp

109 6d Uthgerd.esp

110 6e Bijin NPCs.esp

111 6f Adrianne.esp

112 70 Carlotta.esp

113 71 Gerdur.esp

114 72 Hulda.esp

115 73 Idgrod the younger.esp

116 74 Ingun.esp

117 75 Irileth.esp

118 76 Karliah.esp

119 77 Lisette.esp

120 78 Maven.esp

121 79 Rikke.esp

122 7a Tonilia.esp

123 7b Vex.esp

124 7c Sapphire.esp

125 7d Toccata as Elisif.esp

126 7e Honeyside.esp

127 7f BHTNF.esp

128 80 HSTNF.esp

129 81 Lake Ilinalta Shack.esp

130 82 ELFX - Weathers.esp

131 83 Courtyard Hjerim.esp

132 84 massive2.esp

133 85 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp

134 86 Holidays.esp

135 87 marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

136 88 BW Iona.esp

137 89 Jordis.esp

138 8a BW Lydia.esp

139 8b DeadlyDragons.esp

140 8c Persist Damn It.esp

141 8d KamiTH.esp

142 8e Terrace Proudspire.esp

143 8f MVABasic.esp

144 90 Run For Your Lives.esp

145 91 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

146 92 Pinegrove Lodge.esp

147 93 SkyfallEstate.esp

148 94 Deck Honeyside.esp

149 95 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp

150 96 KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp

151 97 Thornrock.esp

152 98 RabbitsOfSkyrim.esp

153 99 unicorn.esp

154 9a Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

155 9b DawnsPoshPonies.esp

156 9c KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp

157 9d convenient horses.esp

158 9e The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

159 9f Stoop Vlindrel Hall.esp

160 a0 The Manipulator.esp

161 a1 TheRookery.esp

162 a2 EmbersHD.esp

163 a3 Terrace Porch.esp

164 a4 sobcheat.esp

165 a5 SummonDeathHound.esp

166 a6 BP2RabbitFollower.esp

167 a7 MaidenRaven.esp

168 a8 A Felicidade.esp

169 a9 My Home Is Your Home.esp

170 aa IridumEyes2.0.esp

171 ab FreckleMania.esp

172 ac OCR-Fixes.esp

173 ad Statues.esp

174 ae erikmature.esp

175 af BORGAKH1a.esp

176 b0 [+]K's_Torvar[+].esp

177 b1 [+]K's_Sven[+].esp

178 b2 SacredRingofJeebus.esp

179 b3 [+]K's_Marcurio[+].esp

180 b4 Beards.esp

181 b5 NB-Scars.esp

182 b6 PCE - USLEEP Patch.esp

183 b7 RaceMenu.esp

184 b8 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

185 b9 pick100.esp

186 ba Player Size Adjuster.esp

187 bb CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

188 bc Nocturnal Craftable Armors.esp

189 bd Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

190 be KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp

191 bf Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

192 c0 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp

193 c1 DHuntress.esp

194 c2 KKFur.esp

195 c3 FullBootForKKSA.esp

196 c4 FlameAtronachArmor.esp

197 c5 NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp

198 c6 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp

199 c7 zzArmormashups.esp

200 c8 CiriOutfit.esp

201 c9 Gatti5Annelotte.esp

202 ca barenziahquestmarkers.esp

203 cb marriagemod - hf.esp

204 cc oian.esp

205 cd spookyremix.esp

206 ce VigilanceReborn.esp

207 cf MeekoReborn.esp

208 d0 SummonValeDeer.esp

209 d1 SummonFo.esp

210 d2 MarriagableHagraven.esp

211 d3 Dwemer_Skyship_Pegasus_v1_1.esp

212 d4 mmkhajiithair11.esp

213 d5 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

214 d6 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

215 d7 ELFXEnhancer.esp

216 d8 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

217 d9 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp

218 da Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

219 db Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

220 dc PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp

(Also if anyone could tell me if there's any super redundant mods--like mods that override each other completely and are thus pointless--could you tell me? I wouldn't mind cutting down on some stuff.)

Edited January 16, 2017 by SassyMcSassafras

[woodsman30]

The brawl bug sometimes it happens other times it does not if your looking to improve the npc favor to get them as a follower there is a great tool on another site called manipulator. I discovered this mods by chance and what a gem it is you can change anybodies favor towards you... It can also give options to make anyone have follower dialog. After I found this mod I can get around most glitches in the game just google "skyrim manipulator" and you should find it.

[SassyMcSassafras]

The brawl bug sometimes it happens other times it does not if your looking to improve the npc favor to get them as a follower there is a great tool on another site called manipulator. I discovered this mods by chance and what a gem it is you can change anybodies favor towards you... It can also give options to make anyone have follower dialog. After I found this mod I can get around most glitches in the game just google "skyrim manipulator" and you should find it.

Sounds good! There isn't a fix for it though? The bug I mean. If I have to use the mod I will but I'd like to fix it if I can.

[woodsman30]

You can do a hundred play-throughs and never have an issue or you can have issues with every play-throughs. One thing I think we all learned playing Skyrim there are can be issues and no two play-throughs will be the same if issues come up just find a work around or start a new game. Not the answer you wanted but mods can help get around most issues in game play and patches do not always work most I find do not.

[snelss0]

Now, you say that it occurs on a new save, but does it do so on a new game? I just wanted to clarify that this is what you meant.

Also, as for your load order, there may be some changes you want to make. Some apply to your problem, some don't.

1. XPMSE should be just above your Alternate start mod at the very bottom of your load order. Before that should come your animations and before that your FNIS program. It should look like:
FNIS
[All Animations]
XPMSE
Alternate Start LAL

2. Your Modern Brawl Bug Patch should go lower in your load order. Probably somewhere above FNIS would be fine. The mod author instructs in saying it should be near the bottom of your load order if you are having problems, which you are.

3. I believe there is a USLEEP patch for RS Children if you don't have it. It is a mod by another author.

[SassyMcSassafras]

You can do a hundred play-throughs and never have an issue or you can have issues with every play-throughs. One thing I think we all learned playing Skyrim there are can be issues and no two play-throughs will be the same if issues come up just find a work around or start a new game. Not the answer you wanted but mods can help get around most issues in game play and patches do not always work most I find do not.

Oh okay I didn't know that

 

Now, you say that it occurs on a new save, but does it do so on a new game? I just wanted to clarify that this is what you meant.

 

Also, as for your load order, there may be some changes you want to make. Some apply to your problem, some don't.

 

1. XPMSE should be just above your Alternate start mod at the very bottom of your load order. Before that should come your animations and before that your FNIS program. It should look like:

FNIS

[All Animations]

XPMSE

Alternate Start LAL

 

2. Your Modern Brawl Bug Patch should go lower in your load order. Probably somewhere above FNIS would be fine. The mod author instructs in saying it should be near the bottom of your load order if you are having problems, which you are.

 

3. I believe there is a USLEEP patch for RS Children if you don't have it. It is a mod by another author.

Yes it's a new game, I started complete from scratch with a vanilla character and everything to test it.

 

Do I have animations?? I....Forgot I did. Also I thought you were talking about some sleeping mod lmao you were talking about the Skyrim Legendary patch. Sorry, I'm not the most solid cookie around. Thank you for the advice! I'll fix my load order.

Edited January 7, 2017 by SassyMcSassafras

[SassyMcSassafras]

Ok so now I'm having even more problems;;;; What have I done I thnk I broke it

[Dibba666]

I'm also having OP's problem. I've noticed a trend in that people tend to have Alternate Start when this happens. Maybe some kind of latent script or something?? Idk