patchworkdaina Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hey, I've been getting persistent CTDs when using stamina on a female character. It is exclusive to female characters; males can attack and sprint just fine and females do not. I get solid 60 fps constantly with very minor hiccups so rendering issues can be safely ruled out. My cosmetic mods seem to all be in sync so I'm at a loss. The save in which this crash occurs on is my only save, fresh from a clean reinstall of Skyrim; straight out of a vanilla playthrough of Helgen specifically. What I have tried; -running vanilla and doing a clean reinstall of Skyrim (works fine until mods are added)-running without animation mods with the exception of FNIS and XP32/XP32 Extended and other masters (yes, I have run the generator several times with the necessary patches, as well as the patcher for Dual Sheath Redux) -verifying that my female skeleton is clean and not overwriting anything with the exception of XP32-my game is cleaned by TES5Edit, Bashed Patch created from Wrye Bash and ordered by LOOT-I only use NMM to install everything (run as administrator, as due process with any of the modification tools that I use above) PC Specs; Intel® Core i7-6700HQ CUP @2.60 GHz 2.59 GHz16.0 GB of RAM64-bit Operating System, x64 based processorNvidia GeForce GTX 960M Game; All DLCsSKSEUp to dateCleaned with TES5EditSorted with LOOTInstalled via Steam (yes, legally obtained) + NMMBashed by Wyre Bash LOOT Load Order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm 7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm 8 8 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 9 9 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp 11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp 12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp 13 d Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 14 e more ai processing.esp 15 f SkyUI.esp 16 10 RaceMenu.esp 17 11 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 18 12 ScopedBows.esp 19 13 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp 20 14 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp 21 15 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 22 16 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 23 17 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 24 18 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 25 19 Sanctuary Reborn.esp 26 1a RSChildren - Complete.esp 27 1b NonEssentialChildren.esp 28 1c RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp 29 1d Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp 30 1e Purity.esp 31 1f RealShelter.esp 32 20 Thieves Guild Redone.esp 33 21 Bijin AIO.esp 34 22 Bijin NPCs.esp 35 23 Bijin Wives.esp 36 24 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 37 25 BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp 38 26 BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp 39 27 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 40 28 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp 41 29 Marriable Serana.esp 42 2a Marriable Serana HF.esp 43 2b FreckleMania.esp KJ Lore Tattoos 2K.esp 44 2c KJ Tattoos 2K.esp 45 2d GamEngagementrings.esp 46 2e female mannequins.esp 47 2f Convenient Horses.esp 48 30 Skyrim Horses Renewal.esp 49 31 RayeksEnd.esp 50 32 female mannequins in homes.esp 51 33 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 52 34 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 53 35 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 54 36 Morning Fogs.esp 55 37 Sicarius' Refuge - DLC.esp 56 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 57 39 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 58 3a Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 59 3b BVLT - Human.esp 60 3c Realistic HD Beverages.esp 61 3d Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 62 3e NosPiercedEarsAll.esp 63 3f RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 64 40 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 65 41 RND_AnimalLoot.esp 66 42 RSPatch.esp 67 43 WetandCold.esp 68 44 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 69 45 Beards.esp 70 46 Brows.esp 71 47 MikanEyes All in one.esp 72 48 NewMikanEyes.esp 73 49 Kawaii Face Presets.esp 74 4a KS Hairdo's.esp 75 4b BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 76 4c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 77 4d sandboxcylinderheight.esp 78 4e Supreme Storms.esp 79 4f Seductress Serana.esp 80 50 Dragon Lilly.esp 81 51 Elewin Jewelry.esp 82 52 LeftHandRings.esp 83 53 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 84 54 LindsSpellslinger.esp 85 55 LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp 86 56 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 87 57 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 88 58 posesivecorpses.esp 89 59 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 90 5a Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 91 5b FloraRespawnFix.esp 92 5c Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 93 5d Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp 94 5e Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 95 5f NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp 96 60 Ursine Armor Pack.esp 97 61 Tiwa44_SpiceGear.esp 98 62 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp 99 63 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp100 64 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Main_AHead_A.esp101 65 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC1_AHead_A.esp102 66 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC2_AHead_A.esp103 67 AGTweaks - Light Ebony Mail Armor.esp104 68 BlackSacramentArmor.esp105 69 My Home Is Your Home.esp106 6a CN_Accessories.esp107 6b BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp108 6c Cassandra Frost Witch.esp109 6d Celes Nightingale Armor.esp110 6e Emfy Cleric Robes.esp111 6f Real Clouds.esp112 70 Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp113 71 Schwertleite Set.esp114 72 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp115 73 Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp116 74 Merta Assassin Armor.esp117 75 FNIS.esp118 76 FNISSexyMove.esp119 77 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp120 78 dD-No Spinning Death Animation DG.esp121 79 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp122 7a KS Jewelry.esp123 7b Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp124 7c FS_UltimateAssortment.esp125 7d Dual Sheath Redux.esp126 7e XPMSE.esp127 7f Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp128 80 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp129 81 RealisticWaterTwo.esp130 82 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp131 83 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp132 84 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp133 85 Bashed Patch, 0.esp134 86 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp -- Any and all help is very much appreciated, thank you! 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ymf331 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) well i see you're using both the legendary plugin for realistic water two and the individual ones, and also that you have both the merged no spinning death animation plugin and the dawnguard plugin. same with the bijin aio (all in one) plugin and the others. not that it's necessarily the problem, but the point of the merged ones is so you don't need so many. if you're not using crash fixes and enboost, those two combined fix a lot of kinds of crashes. if none of that helps, your plugins are probably in the wrong order or need some sort of patch. the way loot works is that it sorts your mods based on tags and a priority value. it doesn't necessarily look through your plugins and find a specific conflict and then decide which it needs to preference. it can and does sort your plugins wrong because many plugins don't have the metadata to be sorted correctly in the masterlist. so here's what to do: open tesvedit and load all your plugins. right-click in the left pane where they're all listed, and pick "apply filter" from the dropdown menu. in the upper left you'll see a bunch of checkboxes for filtering for different sorts of things. you'll want all of those checked except for the first and fourth boxes. then click on the filter button and let the program find your conflicts for you. from here, you'll need to browse the plugins and find the stuff that's screwed up. you might be able to just reorder and fix them, or find a patch someone's made for the conflicting mods. if one doesn't exist, you'll have to make patches yourself. you'll see the records and which ones conflict in the right pane. whichever one you want to use as a base, right click the name up at the top. click "copy as override into" from the dropdown menu, and unless you're still working on the same 2 mods then scroll to the bottom and pick <new file>. just name your new patch whateveryouwant.esp and change it however you feel is best. edit: i can't really tell you how to fix any given conflict since it's kind-of a combination of trial, error, logic, and experience, but i can tell you that it doesn't end well if you just merge every change and try to make everything green. sometimes to fix something you'll wind up making stuff red. a lot of time i think the olive colored records are itm overwrites. if you spend a little bit looking through them, i think you'll notice pretty quick that there are some problems even if you were careful installing your mods. Edited May 31, 2017 by ymf331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchworkdaina Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) well i see you're using both the legendary plugin for realistic water two and the individual ones, and also that you have both the merged no spinning death animation plugin and the dawnguard plugin. same with the bijin aio (all in one) plugin and the others. not that it's necessarily the problem, but the point of the merged ones is so you don't need so many. if you're not using crash fixes and enboost, those two combined fix a lot of kinds of crashes. if none of that helps, your plugins are probably in the wrong order or need some sort of patch. the way loot works is that it sorts your mods based on tags and a priority value. it doesn't necessarily look through your plugins and find a specific conflict and then decide which it needs to preference. it can and does sort your plugins wrong because many plugins don't have the metadata to be sorted correctly in the masterlist. so here's what to do: open tesvedit and load all your plugins. right-click in the left pane where they're all listed, and pick "apply filter" from the dropdown menu. in the upper left you'll see a bunch of checkboxes for filtering for different sorts of things. you'll want all of those checked except for the first and fourth boxes. then click on the filter button and let the program find your conflicts for you. from here, you'll need to browse the plugins and find the stuff that's screwed up. you might be able to just reorder and fix them, or find a patch someone's made for the conflicting mods. if one doesn't exist, you'll have to make patches yourself. you'll see the records and which ones conflict in the right pane. whichever one you want to use as a base, right click the name up at the top. click "copy as override into" from the dropdown menu, and unless you're still working on the same 2 mods then scroll to the bottom and pick <new file>. just name your new patch whateveryouwant.esp and change it however you feel is best. edit: i can't really tell you how to fix any given conflict since it's kind-of a combination of trial, error, logic, and experience, but i can tell you that it doesn't end well if you just merge every change and try to make everything green. sometimes to fix something you'll wind up making stuff red. a lot of time i think the olive colored records are itm overwrites. if you spend a little bit looking through them, i think you'll notice pretty quick that there are some problems even if you were careful installing your mods. Thanks for replying, I tried to load all of my plugins in TES5Edit and I get the following error;[00:34] Background Loader: Fatal: <EAccessViolation: Access violation at address 007A2EE6 in module 'TES5Edit.exe'. Read of address 00000000> It is being run as administrator (should I not do that?) so I'm not entirely sure what's going on here Edit: Fixed that. Gonna try your advice and get back to you if needed--thanks. Edit 2: I tried looking through the conflicts and I readily got rid of some mods that clearly posed issues. Still experiencing the same CTD though. It's exclusive to non-beast race females and even disabling textures (just in case it is a rendering issue) also hasn't worked. My papyrus scripts seem to be chock-full of errors or maybe they're just red herrings. i.e. [05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] XPMSE MainQuest Initialization successful.[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.FixQuest() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp13"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.FixQuest() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.FixQuest() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp13"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.FixQuest() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] InitWidgetLoader()[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] [Wearable Lanterns] Upgraded to 4.0.[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] [Wearable Lanterns] Loaded: Dawnguard.esm[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] [Wearable Lanterns] Loaded: Dragonborn.esm[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] [Wearable Lanterns] Loaded: SkyUI.esp[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[05/31/2017 - 07:22:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6"stack:[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.MerchantFaction() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ?[MSeranaMaintenance (270A3E3B)].MSeranaMaintenanceScript.OnInit() - "MSeranaMaintenanceScript.psc" Line ? 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