CTD When Alduin frees you from decapitaion at Helgen and when entering Helgen during Alternate Start - Live Another Life(Have used LOOT on load order)

[Skullface90]

I have been trying to start a new game on Skyrim SE but when ever I am about to be freed the the animation lock by alduin or a few seconds after i enter the interior cell for Helgen (main fort dugeons and caves) I crash strat to desktop. I have no current idea on what is clashing to cause this, i have uninstalled Helgen reborn and its patches to see if that caused it but to no avail. I have also used LOOT on my load order into the order you can see below if anyone is willing to lend a hand on what it may be I'd really appertiate it. (Also any mods marked "0" in the load order have been merged together into the "Merge1.esp" if it could be any of those ones as well please let me know thanks).

 

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
WinterholdDestruction.esm=1
SkyMoMod.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
GeneralStores.esm=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp=1
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
NexusSkyrimOverhaul.esp=1
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp=1
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp=1
Runandwalkpaces.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
STAC.esp=1
NB-Scars.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
Beasts of Tamriel.esp=1
Civil War Aftermath.esp=1
Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
Severin Manor.esp=1
Eli_Breezehome.esp=1
Undeath.esp=1
Man Those Borders!.esp=1
Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1
OpulentThievesGuild.esp=1
mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
BattleAftermath.esp=1
The Ruins.esp=1
Holidays.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp=1
Whitewatch Tower.esp=1
Clockwork.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
Unlimited Charge for Unique Items.esp=1
JKs Whiterun.esp=1
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp=1
JK's Riverwood.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Tel Mithryn.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1
Raven Rock.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
HeljarchenFarm.esp=1
Artifacts.esp=1
LongerDurationsandAnnoyanceFixes.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Complete Pack.esp=1
WindstadMine.esp=1
Skaal Village.esp=1
Mystic Condenser.esp=1
TacticalValtheim.esp=1
Shor's Stone.esp=1
konahrik_accoutrements.esp=1
Ivarstead.esp=1
DawnguardArsenal.esp=1
Helarchen Creek.esp=1
PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp=1
Kynesgrove.esp=1
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1
Merge1.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp=1
WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp=1
WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp=1
_001_SelfFillingBookshelves.esp=1
icepenguinworldmap.esp=1
MannequinStayPut.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
VesWhoreOutfit.esp=0
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=0
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp=1
Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp=1
Skysan_Stalhrim.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Weathers.esp=1
Bloodskal100.esp=0
DragonFastTravelRedone_simple.esp=1
RevengeOfTheIronDaggers.esp=1
ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp=1
Super Simple Lock Bash.esp=1
Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp=1
Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp=1
Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Artifacts of Skyrim.esp=1
TrueStormsSE.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
BetterArchmagesRobes.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
Unlimited Charge - Unique Uniques Compatibility Patch.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
rich merchants of skyrim.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
MoreWerewolves.esp=1
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp=1
Karthwasten.esp=1
Storefront.esp=1
Dragon Bridge.esp=1
GrahlsOnSolstheim.esp=1
Tel Mithryn Prison.esp=1
LABikiniSSE.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
Ars Metallica.esp=1
DLC Shrines for Hearthfire Homes.esp=1
Hearthfire General Stores Addon.esp=1
Sanctum.esp=1
KeeperCarcetteSurvives.esp=1
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp=1
LADX_SSE.esp=1
Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1
College Bridge Light Fix.esp=1
Improved Dragon Priest Masks.esp=1
DwemerSpectresLegendary.esp=1
Expanded Dawnguard Map Markers 1.1.esp=1
rotmulaag.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
JKs Whiterun exterior.esp=1
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp=1
HoldBorderBanners.esp=1
Equippable Tomes.esp=0
Settlements Expanded SE - No Snow Under the Roof Patch.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp=1
Raven Rock - Clockwork Patch.esp=1
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp=1
stonhenge + hilltops.esp=1
Map Markers Complete.esp=1
Hel.esp=1
JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp=1
Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp=1
Nordic Wanderer.esp=1
Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1
buildingmaterialsgodchest.esp=1
Hedge Mage Armor.esp=1
giftsofakatosh.esp=1
Real Solitude Rocks.esp=1
PCE - Holidays Patch.esp=1
PCE - USEEP+CRF Patch.esp=1
Elizabeth's Tower - Azura Shrine.esp=1
ColdharbourDaedra.esp=1
concentrativefireandfrostshouts.esp=1
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1
VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp=1
Retching Netch Seating.esp=1
HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp=1
RSChildren - Complete.esp=1
RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1
RevertUSSEPShield_of_Solitude.esp=1
pickpocket100.esp=1
Deadly Destruction.esp=1
Armour_of_Yngol.esp=0
TW3Eyes.esp=1
BVFE.esp=1
Backshields.esp=1
Rayg_NoBYOHAttacks.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp=1
ogSplendorDragons.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1
Splendor-DDCse patch.esp=1
Splendor-DDCse-Lava-Eldergleam patch.esp=1
RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp=1
DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp=1
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp=1
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Mystic Condenser - USSEP Patch.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
UnarmoredVampireGear.esp=1
Volkihar Knight.esp=1
Volkihar Knight - Better Vampires Patch.esp=1
Necromage USSEP Fix.esp=1
Skysan_Icicle.esp=1
fireandfrostbreathLanguagefix1.esp=1
DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp=0
Better Horses 3.0.esp=1
XPMSSE.esp=1
Book of UUNP - Textures.esp=1
Book of UUNP - WIC - Cloaks Skyrim - Patch.esp=1
MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
MakeHelmetsOptional.esp=1
TTR_Ziil_Los_Dii_Du.esp=1
Sleeved Guards.esp=0
dovahkiinrelax.esp=1
RotmulaagThunderchild.esp=1
CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp=1
Better Amulet of Talos.esp=0
Horse Storage.esp=1
Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp=1
konahrik_accoutrements_dpe.esp=1
YharnyamHunter.esp=1
Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp=1
Whistle.esp=1
MagicDuelReborn.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp=1
TDNEquipableHorns.esp=1
Dawnguard Delayed - Level 30.esp=1
LTAOC_LightGlassArmor.esp=0
LTAJC_LightElvenArmor.esp=0
LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp=1
Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp=1
phiAssignedStorage.esp=1
bm_SimpleAction.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1
BetterMasterSpells.esp=1
CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp=1
ColdharbourDaedraAtronachForge.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Darkwater Crossing.esp=1
PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp=1
Whistling Mine.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp=1
JK's Whiterun-Open cities SSE.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE.esp=1
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - Amorous Patch.esp=1
PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp=1
Eli_Breezehome-Open_Cities-Patch.esp=1
dawnguard map markers.esp=1

[gromulos]

I see SO many problems with your load order it is just plain outright rediculous

 

1) It specifically states on the mods description page NOT to enable Helgen Reborn till AFTER you leave Helgen

 

2) swap these in your load order

 

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1

 

NOTHING should ever be above the SSE patch file except original game files - it says that on the description page

 

3) You have MANY files that need patch files that i do NOT see in your load order

 

4) check your load order count SSE STILL has a 255 mod limit

 

My end solution recommendation to you would be to try modding your game the right and correct way - below

 

A) Uninstall all mods and then make a new save outside of Helgen

B) install 5 mods at a time, testing after each 5

C) once all mods are installed make a bashed patch - YOU NEED THIS

D) follow my guide section 2 to make the bashed patch, ALL OF SECTION 2 - https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

[gromulos]

As it stands right now you have 260 mods not including the original game files that DO count towards the 255 limit

 

proof - https://pastebin.com/JXkcMNA9

 

So essentially you need to get rid of at least 10 mods minimum

 

Also keep in mind that most computers can not reach that 255 limit, my desktop can run Fallout 4 AND SSE on ultra at 50 FPS outside and 60 FPS inside

 

BUT

 

only if i have 182 mods or less, at 183 mods or higher I instantly CTD to desktop on both games - it largely depends on your hardware although I can't prove this

Edited June 23, 2017 by gromulos

[Skullface90]

Ok thanks I'll look into it, but i did state that a few of these mods have been merged together into 1 esp.

[gromulos]

if they were merged then they should not be enabled, installed yes, enabled no. Otherwise you're loading the same information ( mod ) twice

[Skullface90]

I'll try your modding way see how it works out.

[Skullface90]

New Info. When I disabled all my mods (Disable not uninstall) alduin never lands on the fort roof, he just flies around, so one of the mods may have removed or done something to the script that controls that part.

[gromulos]

I think you should try this, below

 

My end solution recommendation to you would be to try modding your game the right and correct way - below

 

A) Uninstall all mods and then make a new save outside of Helgen - uninstall, not just disable, and verify through steam to make sure you have a vanilla game

B) install 5 mods at a time, testing after each 5

C) once all mods are installed make a bashed patch - YOU NEED THIS

D) follow my guide section 2 to make the bashed patch, ALL OF SECTION 2 - https://forums.nexus...ide-to-modding/

[LupusHegemonia]

 

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

BSAssets.esm=1

BSHeartland.esm=1

BS_DLC_patch.esp=1

Falskaar.esm=1

arnima.esm=1

Wyrmstooth.esp=1

BBLuxurySuite.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

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Wyrmstooth - Legacy Edition.esp=1

moonpath.esp=1

JRMoonpathBrumaPatch.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

SMIM-SE.esp=1

SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp=1

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp=1

CoinPurseIncrease.esp=1

ClassicClasses.esp=1

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1

20 More Perk Points.esp=1

Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp=1

Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1

Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1

WeightLessLegacyAll.esp=1

Rebalanced Leveled Lists.esp=1

Cloaks&Capes.esp=1

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JK's Rorikstead.esp=1

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riften.esp=1

Darkwater Crossing.esp=1

Dawnstar.esp=1

Dragon Bridge.esp=1

Helarchen Creek.esp=1

Ivarstead.esp=1

Karthwasten.esp=1

Keld-Nar.esp=1

Kynesgrove.esp=1

Shor's Stone.esp=1

Soljund's Sinkhole.esp=1

Whistling Mine.esp=1

Kato's Falkreath.esp=1

NewAmberguard.esp=1

Gavrostead.esp=1

Overstead.esp=1

Raven Rock.esp=1

JKs Skaal Village.esp=1

Tel Mithryn.esp=1

Solitude Exterior Addon.esp=1

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Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1

Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1

JKs Whiterun exterior.esp=1

Whitewatch Tower.esp=1

DragonbridgeSouthSide.esp=1

Windhelm Lighthouse.esp=1

Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp=1

Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp=1

Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1

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ElysiumEstate.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp=1

Immersive War and Violence.esp=1

BattleAftermath.esp=1

ImmersiveLocationsMerged.esp=1

MainlandStalhrim.esp=1

Ruined Shrine of Phynaster.esp=1

AreasExpansionsMerged.esp=1

SPTKatlaSailReangleSE.esp=1

SLO_StoneWalls.esp=1

Skyrim Bridges.esp=1

p_vegetation_overhaul.esp=1

Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp=1

Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp=1

Landscape For Grass Mods Arthmoor's Shor's Stone PATCH.esp=1

Dark_Eden_Forests_Solstheim.esp=1

S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp=1

Bent Pines.esp=1

fallentreebridges.esp=1

Enhanced Landscapes Oaks Standalone.esp=1

Enhanced Landscapes Standalone Marsh Pines.esp=1

Unique Flowers & Plants.esp=1

notice board.esp=1

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1

Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1

Realistic Melee Range.esp=1

Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp=1

Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp=1

Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp=1

ArcheryV2.esp=1

Archery_Bruma_Patch.esp=1

Serio's Enhanced Dragons.esp=1

ogSplendorDragons.esp=1

KS Dragon Overhaul.esp=1

MoreWerewolves.esp=1

SkyrimIsWindy.esp=1

Immersive Patrols II.esp=1

Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp=1

sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1

Shout.esp=1

Cinamatic Dragon Soul Absorbtion.esp=1

DiversifyingSkyrim.esp=1

DiversifyingSkyrimBabiesCryingSoundPatchSE.esp=1

SimplyKnock.esp=1

QuickLight.esp=1

Public Executions.esp=1

DawnguardVampireAttackFix.esp=1

PyP_LE+CRF.esp=1

Ars Metallica.esp=1

MajesticMountains.esp=1

MajesticMountains_Moss.esp=1

BlendedRoads.esp=1

Footprints.esp=1

Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

DustEffectsSSE.esp=1

SparklesSE.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

lm_astronach.esp=1

CampfireFix.esp=1

Dynamic Giant Campfires.esp=1

Ashbound.esp=1

Raven Rock Ashbound.esp=1

Tel Mithryn Ashbound.esp=1

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Better Dynamic Ash.esp=1

Skysan_Icicle.esp=1

Morning Fogs.esp=1

FireBurns.esp=1

LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp=1

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FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

Map Markers Complete.esp=1

SkyHUD.esp=1

SkyUI_SE.esp=1

DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1

Durnehviir God of Death.esp=1

DurnehviirResurrected.esp=1

DurnehviirResurrected_GodOfDeath_patch.esp=1

KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp=1

BloodHorkers.esp=1

GrahlsOnSolstheim.esp=1

WildHerdsOfSkyrim.esp=1

Ducks and Swans.esp=1

Merged WeaponsArmors.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1

Dr_Bandolier.esp=1

MergedSaddlesPlugins.esp=1

Armes d'Auriel.esp=1

Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp=1

Elemental_Staffs.esp=1

More Weapons Please.esp=1

skyforgedWeapons.esp=1

LeftHandRings.esp=1

LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp=1

RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=1

imp_helm_legend.esp=1

Open Face Guard Helmets.esp=1

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp=1

KS Jewelry.esp=1

Immersive Wenches.esp=1

Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp=1

Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp=1

Fangs and Eyes Blue Night Vision.esp=1

Beards.esp=1

Bijin AIO.esp=1

Recorder Follower Base.esp=1

SuperbSerana.esp=1

Valerica.esp=1

YurianaWench.esp=1

AelaStandalone.esp=1

Ambriel.esp=1

Realistic HaircolorsPale.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp=1

XPMSSE.esp=1

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

FlowerGirls SE.esp=1

FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp=1

FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1

More idle markers.esp=1

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TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp=1

LightngDuringStorm.esp=1

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ELFXEnhancer.esp=1

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Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp=1

Skyrim Chimneys.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp=1

MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1

MCoW_AnimatedClutter.esp=1

MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

MCoW_ELFX_Enhancer.esp=1

NoGrassINCaves.esp=1

WGT.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

RWT Lod Fix.esp=1

WaterSeamsFix.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0

This is my loading order, after I ran LOOT and manually corrected some stuff. I have some (4-6) mods "orange" in Wrye B - because these mods have wrong placed the official master files (and obviously I can't move the Dawnguard or Dragonborn etc).

I have (still) issues with the second Alduin shout - I have CTDs... Any help?