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Grey Face bug caused by Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition patch?


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Alright So after what feels like weeks trying to figure this out I feel like I've narrowed it down but I'm not quite sure what to do from here.

A quick background:

I installed Skyrim The Legendary edition a few weeks ago along with a lot of mods. One of them being this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/48470/?

Everything was working fine (or so i thought... To be fair I'd only played for about 15 mins) until I tried to change a dark elf's hair in Windhelm. Not only did it not work but i slowly began to realize a bunch of NPC's faces were grey all the way down to the neck creating an incredibly visible (and ugly) neck seam where the neck meets the body. This only got worse in very sunny and bright places like Riverwood.

After some research i discovered that mods that edit NPCs can cause this. So I deleted the mod from my game and computer and started a new game. Still seeing grey faces! So anyway I took a bit of a break and decided to uninstall my whole game and all mods and start from scratch. Making sure to not install ANY mods that are supposed to alter NPCs. I got everything running well and was excited to finally start my game when I enter Riften and what do I see... Grey faces... Grey faces everywhere :sad:

So I'm incredibly frustrated at this point and don't really understand whats going on. Maybe it wasn't that mod after all and I just hadn't noticed because most of my 15 minutes of game time was spent at night. After some simple deduction I realized that this is ONLY affecting vanilla NPCs. Any NPCs added by 3DNPCs and Inconsequential NPCs are fine. Also this is not affecting all the vanilla NPCs. For example in Riften Balimund and Aerin have grey faces while Mjoll does not.

Now I had never really used TES5Edit but it seemed like that was the next thing to look at. So i downloaded it and looked up Balimund (sorry if I'm not using the right terminology, I just started using this today) as he 100% has a grey face in my game, too see what mod could be affecting his actor (?) data. Opening up his info I see after the main Skyrim.esm he is only edited by The Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch. Scrolling down I see he the only thing that it seems to be changing is the "Tint Layers"? A screen shot of this is attached.



So yeah, I'm not quite sure what to do here or even if I'm on the right track with the patch but I can't think of anything else that would be causing it. If anyone knows how to fix this, or at least some ideas on things I could try, please let me know! This has been causing me so many headaches.

Also in case it may help, here is my load order:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm
10 a Campfire.esm
11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
12 c RSkyrimChildren.esm
13 d HighResTexturePack01.esp
14 e HighResTexturePack02.esp
15 f HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
16 10 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
17 11 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
18 12 Real Roads.esp
19 13 Vivid Landscapes.esp
20 14 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
22 16 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
23 17 mintylightningmod.esp
24 18 SkyUI.esp
25 19 AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp
26 1a AncientTonguesSword.esp
27 1b BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
28 1c Blades_of_Chaos.esp
29 1d Character Creation Overhaul.esp
30 1e CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
31 1f CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
32 20 Claw.esp
33 21 DeadlyDragons.esp
34 22 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
35 23 DaggerCraft.esp
36 24 DiamondCrossbow.esp
37 25 DiamondWeaponsN.esp
38 26 Differently Ebony.esp
39 27 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
40 28 FNIS.esp
41 29 Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
42 2a KatanaCrafting.esp
43 2b KTABladeOfWoe.esp
44 2c RaceMenu.esp
45 2d RaceMenuPlugin.esp
46 2e RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
47 2f XPMSE.esp
48 30 AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
49 31 LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Medium.esp
50 32 Predator Vision.esp
51 33 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
52 34 Craftable Torches.esp
53 35 female mannequins.esp
54 36 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
55 37 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
56 38 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
57 39 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
58 3a dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
59 3b PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
60 3c StalhrimExtraCrafting.esp
61 3d OCR-Fixes.esp
62 3e TGLNordArmor.esp
63 3f ElvenScout.esp
64 40 LadyKdCirclets.esp
65 41 Guild Duelist Armor.esp
66 42 3DNPC.esp
67 43 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
68 44 WetandCold.esp
69 45 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
70 46 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
71 47 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
72 48 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp
73 49 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
74 4a ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
75 4b Vividian - Extended Weathers.esp
76 4c TrueStorms.esp
77 4d TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
78 4e ELFXEnhancer.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
79 4f Perky.esp
80 50 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SoS_CoT_Patch.esp
SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp
81 51 Akavari Katana Re_borne.esp
82 52 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
83 53 OBIS.esp
84 54 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
85 55 Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp
SoS_ELFX+Enhancer_Patch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
86 56 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
87 57 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
88 58 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
89 59 Immersive Weapons.esp
90 5a aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
91 5b Inconsequential NPCs.esp
92 5c Run For Your Lives.esp
93 5d Cloaks.esp
94 5e SMIM-Merged-All.esp
95 5f UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
96 60 fallentreebridges.esp
97 61 Random Alternate Start.esp
98 62 Improved Poisons.esp
99 63 FarmhouseChimneys.esp
100 64 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
101 65 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp
102 66 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
103 67 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
104 68 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
105 69 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
106 6a Unique Grasses.esp
107 6b Bandit Patrols.esp
108 6c Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
109 6d PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
110 6e TCOSS.esp
111 6f isilNarsil.esp
112 70 Nicoroshi Creations.esp
113 71 BlackSacramentArmor.esp
114 72 Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
115 73 RND_AnimalLoot.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
116 74 UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
117 75 Unique Uniques.esp
118 76 Insanity's Dragonbane.esp
119 77 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
120 78 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
121 79 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
122 7a OBISDB.esp
123 7b Third Era - Dwemer.esp
124 7c viciousdawnbreaker.esp
125 7d AlchemistShackMinorImprovements.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
126 7e better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp
127 7f LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
128 80 ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
129 81 Elemental Staves.esp
130 82 Insanity's Shields.esp
131 83 TrissArmorRetextured.esp
132 84 Witch Of The Wild.esp
133 85 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
134 86 Faction Crossbows.esp
135 87 Dr_Bandolier.esp
136 88 1nivWICCloaks.esp
137 89 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
138 8a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
139 8b VTF-Dawnguard.esp
140 8c loners_sword.esp
141 8d WeaponsOf3E - No Leveled Lists.esp
142 8e WeaponsOf3E.esp
143 8f Silverlight Armor.esp
144 90 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
145 91 Ghorza's Armor.esp
146 92 LustmordVampireArmor.esp
147 93 PrinceandPauper.esp
148 94 NonEssentialChildren.esp
149 95 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
RSChildren_PatchBooksofSkyrim.esp
PNP 3D and Inc NPC patch.esp
150 96 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
151 97 RSChildren.esp
152 98 RSChildren - Complete.esp
153 99 Prince and Pauper RS Incon and 3Dnpcs.esp

 

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Are you absolutely certain you do not have any leftover loose files in your Data folder, specifically in these 2 places:

 

meshes\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom

textures\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint

 

Not all mods that alter facegen data are packed with a BSA, so removing them may leave old pieces behind. This facegen data in these folders must match what the ESP file has to say about the NPC. If they do not match, you get grey face bugs. So what you'd need to check on was whether or not "The Hairstyler" included matching facegen for any edited NPCs.

 

As far as USLEEP itself, no, those tint layer edits won't be causing such problems. The CK saves those stray bits anytime an NPC is edited for any reason and they've never been shown to be a problem.

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Are you absolutely certain you do not have any leftover loose files in your Data folder, specifically in these 2 places:

 

meshes\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom

textures\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint

 

Not all mods that alter facegen data are packed with a BSA, so removing them may leave old pieces behind. This facegen data in these folders must match what the ESP file has to say about the NPC. If they do not match, you get grey face bugs. So what you'd need to check on was whether or not "The Hairstyler" included matching facegen for any edited NPCs.

 

As far as USLEEP itself, no, those tint layer edits won't be causing such problems. The CK saves those stray bits anytime an NPC is edited for any reason and they've never been shown to be a problem.

 

Thank you for your reply! Yeah it seems your right about USLEEP. After looking around a bit more I discovered Aerin who also has a grey face isn't being affected by ANY mods (not even USLEEP).

 

How do I check that? What would I be looking for specifically in those folders? Would i need to go in and delete things, or is this something I'd have to do on TES5Edit?

 

Also would the FaceGen data still carry over? Even if I've already uninstalled, and reinstalled my game?

 

 

 

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