SSE can't save Oldrim save

[theloler19]

Hello there!

I've been struggling with this bug 2 days from now on ,and I can't seem to find any help online.

TL;DR

Heavily modded Oldrim save works perfectly fine on modded SSE, but crashes when trying to save.

Long descryption

Recently I have finally decided to move my heavily modded Oldrim save into SE. I have downloaded as many equivalent SE mods as possible and checked whether they all worked together with a separate character. I prepared a separate savefile set outside of modded spaces, cleaned it with Save game script cleaner and thrown it into SSE save folder. Then started Skyrim, and everything seemingly worked. Of course some stuff like Apocalypse Spells didn't transfer over ,but most stuff stayed in place and looked fine and dandy. That is until I have attempted to save the game so that transfer is finished. Game promptly crashed me to the desktop. Did any of you encounter something similar? Should I perhaps make a Oldrim save with unnecessary mods uninstalled? Am I retarded and should play vanilla for the rest of my life?

Technical checklist:

Oldrim Version: Latest Legendary Edition with SKSE 1.7.3|1.9.32.0|48 (Not sure if version is written correctly)

SSE Version: Latest without SKSE64

PC Stats: NVidia GTX 970, Intel Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4GHZ, 8GB RAM

NMM: Yes

Any other Skyrim tools: Save game script cleaner, LOOT, TESVEdit and Bash (latter two only used in Oldrim)

Side by side comparison of load orders

Skyrim Special Edition

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

7 7 ApachiiHairMales.esm

8 8 ApachiiHair.esm

9 9 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

11 b EFFCore.esm

12 c Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

13 d SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm

14 e BSAssets.esm

15 f BSHeartland.esm

16 10 BS_DLC_patch.esp

17 11 RSkyrimChildren.esm

18 12 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

19 13 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

20 14 Predator Vision.esp

21 15 WICO - Immersive Character.esp

22 16 WICO - Immersive People.esp

23 17 WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp

24 18 WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp

25 19 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

26 1a SitaFollower.esp

27 1b Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

28 1c Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

29 1d VioLens SE.esp

30 1e VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp

31 1f TrueStormsSE.esp

32 20 Unique Uniques.esp

33 21 Eli_Breezehome.esp

34 22 Run For Your Lives.esp

35 23 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

36 24 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

37 25 WetandCold.esp

38 26 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

39 27 RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp

40 28 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

41 29 Dr_Bandolier.esp

42 2a ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp

44 2c Crossroads Inn.esp

45 2d InnCredible.esp

46 2e Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

47 2f XPMSE.esp

48 30 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

49 31 Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp

50 32 Immersive Music Temples.esp

51 33 Immersive Music.esp

52 34 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

53 35 Laundry.esp

54 36 JKs Whiterun.esp

55 37 JK's Riverwood.esp

56 38 Friendlier Taverns.esp

57 39 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp

58 3a Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

59 3b Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp

60 3c FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp

61 3d Insanity's Sorrow.esp

62 3e ScytheOfTheCrow.esp

63 3f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

64 40 LevelersTower.esp

65 41 LABikiniSSE.esp

66 42 Bent Pines.esp

67 43 windyridge.esp

68 44 SkyR - Riften Interiors.esp

69 45 SkyR - Riverwood Interiors.esp

70 46 SkyR - Solitude Interiors.esp

71 47 SkyR - Whiterun Interiors.esp

72 48 SkyR - Windhelm Interiors USP patch.esp

73 49 SkyR - Windhelm Interiors.esp

74 4a ZenitharWorkshop.esp

75 4b SarethiManor.esp

76 4c FNIS.esp

77 4d Skullcave Island 2.5.esp

78 4e Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp

79 4f InigoPerkPointGiver.esp

80 50 MKH.esp

81 51 Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp

82 52 Keeping Warm.esp

83 53 Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp

84 54 DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp

85 55 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

86 56 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

87 57 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp

88 58 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp

89 59 MONSTERaider - Beast Followers.esp

90 5a EFFDialogue.esp

91 5b Uncle Sheo Legendary.esp

92 5c Cliffracers_Solstheim_SSE.esp

93 5d Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

94 5e RedoranGrove.esp

95 5f Carpathian Inn.esp

96 60 OpulentThievesGuild.esp

97 61 SeaPointSettlement.esp

98 62 CW-HouseOfTroubles.esp

99 63 mihailsuthaypahmaralliancecamp.esp

100 64 Redoran's Retreat.esp

101 65 Silent Moons Camp Reborn.esp

102 66 TacticalValtheim.esp

103 67 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

104 68 Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp

105 69 Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp

106 6a Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

107 6b fallentreebridges.esp

108 6c Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp

109 6d sandboxcylinderheight.esp

110 6e Inigo.esp

111 6f MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp

112 70 My Home Is Your Home.esp

113 71 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp

114 72 BlanketScarf.esp

115 73 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

116 74 AngasMillReborn.esp

117 75 Tel Mithryn.esp

118 76 Blues Skyrim.esp

119 77 VikingShipPlayerHome.esp

120 78 ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp

121 79 Solitude Expansion.esp

122 7a T'Skyrim Riverwood.esp

123 7b Winterhold.esp

124 7c Whitewatch Tower.esp

125 7d Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

126 7e Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

127 7f Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

128 80 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

129 81 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

130 82 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp

131 83 SoS_CoT_Patch.esp

132 84 SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp

133 85 SideDragonPriestMasks.esp

134 86 Osare Culort Outfit.esp

135 87 RM Light Elven Armor.esp

136 88 imp_helm_legend.esp

137 89 mihaildwarvenpowerarmor.esp

138 8a FloraRespawnFix.esp

139 8b BSHeartlandFRF.esp

140 8c RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp

141 8d RSChildren.esp

142 8e __00GrandBathHouse2.esp

143 8f mihailmudcrabmerchant.esp

144 90 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

145 91 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

146 92 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

147 93 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

148 94 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

Oldrim

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm

9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm

10 a ApachiiHair.esm

11 b EFFCore.esm

12 c SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm

13 d RaceCompatibility.esm

14 e hdtHighHeel.esm

15 f GeneralDisplays.esm

16 10 GeneralDisplays - DB.esm

17 11 GeneralDisplays - DG.esm

18 12 Campfire.esm

19 13 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

20 14 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

21 15 moonpath.esm

22 16 GeneralStores.esm

23 17 BSAssets.esm

24 18 BSHeartland.esm

25 19 SkyUI.esp

26 1a Brawl Bugs CE.esp

27 1b ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

28 1c FNIS.esp

29 1d Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp

30 1e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

31 1f Dr_BandolierDG.esp

32 20 Paarthurnax_Bypass.esp

33 21 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

34 22 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

35 23 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

36 24 WetandCold.esp

37 25 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

38 26 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

39 27 SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp

40 28 DeviantKaled's Nord Ship Replacers.esp

41 29 SKYR Interiors - Riften.esp

42 2a LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

43 2b imp_helm_legend.esp

44 2c CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

45 2d DBM_UnofficialFix_Patch.esp

46 2e SkyR - Windhelm Interiors.esp

47 2f JKs Skyrim.esp

48 30 ThengilFarmsRemastered.esp

49 31 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

50 32 3DNPC.esp

51 33 Friendlier Taverns.esp

52 34 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

53 35 Armor and Clothing for Vanilla Child Races.esp

54 36 RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp

55 37 hjerimtnf.esp

56 38 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

57 39 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

58 3a SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

59 3b RealisticWaterTwo.esp

60 3c SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

61 3d Northern Bathhouses.esp

62 3e DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp

63 3f TES5R - AngelinesAromatics.esp

64 40 TES5R -The Bannered Mare.esp

65 41 TES5R - BitsandPieces.esp

66 42 iWill_ARavensBreezeHome.esp

67 43 SkyR - Riverwood Interiors.esp

68 44 TES5R - Dragonsreach.esp

69 45 ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp

70 46 RavenRock.esp

71 47 SeaPointSettlement.esp

72 48 SoS - The Wilds.esp

73 49 OpulentThievesGuild.esp

74 4a SoS - Civilization.esp

75 4b 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp

76 4c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

77 4d Uncle Sheo Legendary.esp

78 4e EatingSleepingDrinking.esp

79 4f RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

80 50 UIExtensions.esp

81 51 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp

82 52 Tempest.esp

83 53 VioLens.esp

84 54 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp

85 55 NIOVHH.esp

86 56 TrueStorms.esp

87 57 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp

88 58 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

89 59 FISS.esp

90 5a BlanketScarf.esp

91 5b Scarves! Skyrim Edition!.esp

92 5c LostGrimoire.esp

93 5d AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

94 5e Differently Ebony.esp

95 5f AddItemMenu2.esp

96 60 Colored Collars.esp

97 61 The Un-Killable Frost.esp

99 63 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp

100 64 Proper Aiming.esp

101 65 sandboxcylinderheight.esp

102 66 manny_eyeglasses.esp

103 67 RaceMenu.esp

104 68 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

105 69 Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp

106 6a FreedomForNightingales.esp

107 6b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

108 6c TES5R - Arcadia's Cauldron.esp

109 6d ClefJ's Karthwasten.esp

110 6e Left Hand Crossing.esp

111 6f TES5R - BelethorsGeneralGoods.esp

112 70 SoS - The Dungeons.esp

113 71 EFFDialogue.esp

114 72 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp

115 73 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp

116 74 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

117 75 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

118 76 Immersive Weapons.esp

119 77 WeistoneHamlet.esp

120 78 TES5R -The Warmaidens.esp

121 79 TES5R - HouseGrayMane.esp

122 7a Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers.esp

123 7b Oblivion Gates v3.esp

124 7c Laundry.esp

125 7d RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp

126 7e PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

127 7f Tentapalooza.esp

128 80 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

129 81 Bijin NPCs.esp

130 82 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp

131 83 Battlemage Armour.esp

132 84 Moonpath_NoFakeLight.esp

133 85 ClefJ's Half Moon Mill.esp

134 86 TES5R - HouseClanBattleBorn.esp

135 87 TES5R - Carlottashouse.esp

136 88 WayshrinesIFT.esp

137 89 DarkwaterKeep.esp

138 8a RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

139 8b Inigo.esp

140 8c SitaFollower.esp

141 8d Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

142 8e Run For Your Lives.esp

143 8f Cloaks.esp

144 90 TES5R - Helgen Keep.esp

145 91 Diamond Bluff Settlement.esp

146 92 SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

147 93 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

148 94 DBM_HA+IW+IA_Patch.esp

149 95 TES5R - Severioshouse.esp

150 96 ClefJShorsStone.esp

151 97 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp

152 98 TES5R - Uthgerdshouse.esp

153 99 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

154 9a Serenity.esp

155 9b Serenity SeaPoint DLC Patch.esp

156 9c TES5R -TempleofKynareth.esp

157 9d CW-HouseOfTroubles.esp

158 9e TES5R - Amrenshouse.esp

159 9f Gri_BeastFeet.esp

160 a0 Serana.esp

161 a1 mihailsuthaypahmaralliancecamp.esp

162 a2 RSChildren - Complete.esp

163 a3 nicer-looking argonians.esp

164 a4 Dr_Bandolier.esp

165 a5 TES5R - Olavashouse.esp

166 a6 Daggercross_Alley.esp

167 a7 Crossroads Inn.esp

168 a8 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

169 a9 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

170 aa SarethiManor.esp

171 ab JKs Skaal Village.esp

172 ac SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.esp

173 ad TES5R -Ysoldashouse.esp

174 ae moonpath_questdata.esp

175 af Wynter.esp

176 b0 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

177 b1 TES5R - Heimskrshouse.esp

178 b2 The Pit.esp

179 b3 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp

180 b4 BlackWoodInn.esp

181 b5 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

182 b6 JokerineArgonianSettlement.esp

183 b7 Immersive Music Temples.esp

184 b8 plunketStone.esp

185 b9 Immersive Music.esp

186 ba RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

187 bb SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

188 bc RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp

189 bd Gildergreen Regrown.esp

190 be My Home Is Your Home.esp

191 bf AriasHideaway.esp

192 c0 moonpath_priderockoverhaul.esp

193 c1 ZenitharWorkshop.esp

194 c2 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

195 c3 mihailmudcrabmerchant.esp

196 c4 Cliffracers_Solstheim.esp

197 c5 The_Sinister_Seven.esp

198 c6 Contractor Armor.esp

199 c7 CloudArmor.esp

200 c8 VimuneFollower.esp

201 c9 BentPines_for_SFO2.0.esp

202 ca TCoW Improvement.esp

203 cb Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp

204 cc Skill Config.esp

205 cd InigoMCM.esp

206 ce Detailed Khajiit Heads.esp

207 cf DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp

208 d0 DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp

209 d1 khajiitearrings.esp

210 d2 Insanity's Sorrow.esp

211 d3 SerenityCrewPatch.esp

212 d4 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

213 d5 TKDodge.esp

214 d6 Grass Field.esp

215 d7 Gehenoth.esp

216 d8 SideDragonPriestMasks.esp

217 d9 CopyArmor.esp

218 da RM Light Elven Armor.esp

219 db Remodeled Armor.esp

220 dc AhnassiFollower.esp

221 dd RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp

222 de MKH.esp

223 df Animallica.esp

224 e0 Headtracking.esp

225 e1 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

226 e2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

227 e3 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

228 e4 mihaildwarvenpowerarmor.esp

229 e5 Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp

PS. If you need any more info, I will gladly try to provide it.

Thank you for taking your time

Edited December 14, 2017 by theloler19

[gromulos]

it's simple, your Oldrim save is missing mods that are not available for Newrim

 

your best option is to play the oldrim save on Oldrim, and make a brand new character on Newrim. The Oldrim save has mods "baked" into it and EVERY single mod used for the Oldrim character would HAVE to be used in Newrim if you're going to use that particular save.

 

Also, and most importantly. Oldrim mod files were saved differently than the way Newrim saves the files within a mod now. This is most obvious with Mesh, texture, and sound formats

 

From what I see from your load orders you're missing 81 + mods, if you were missing 1 or 2, you might be able to get by, but 81, nope, no way is that save going to work in Newrim

Edited December 14, 2017 by gromulos

[theloler19]

Thanks for answering Gromulos!

I know that all previous mods persist on Oldrims save data to some degree ,but would it perhaps help if I were to make a new Oldrim save with all the unavailable mods uninstalled?

[gromulos]

That would help greatly conditionally

 

1) all mods you use would have had to be converted CORRECTLY - NEVER assume a mod author has done this

2) You may need to learn how to do this yourself as I did in order to use Cerwiden in SSE, link below

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/5421200-cerwiden-in-sse/

[theloler19]

Alright, I will see what I can do, maybe I will get it to work. And if I fail ,I will just wait for SKSE64 and other stuff. Thanks for helping Gromulos!

 

UPDATE: For experiments sake I have removed every single of roughly 7000 scripts from my save file. While it has messed few stuff it was pretty much playable and saveable. Of course its not perfect because of for example Tolfdir handing me again Arch-Mage robes. I will keep experimenting.

Edited December 23, 2017 by theloler19