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Hello there!
I've been struggling with this bug 2 days from now on ,and I can't seem to find any help online.
 
TL;DR
Heavily modded Oldrim save works perfectly fine on modded SSE, but crashes when trying to save.
 
Long descryption
Recently I have finally decided to move my heavily modded Oldrim save into SE. I have downloaded as many equivalent SE mods as possible and checked whether they all worked together with a separate character. I prepared a separate savefile set outside of modded spaces, cleaned it with Save game script cleaner and thrown it into SSE save folder. Then started Skyrim, and everything seemingly worked. Of course some stuff like Apocalypse Spells didn't transfer over ,but most stuff stayed in place and looked fine and dandy. That is until I have attempted to save the game so that transfer is finished. Game promptly crashed me to the desktop. Did any of you encounter something similar? Should I perhaps make a Oldrim save with unnecessary mods uninstalled? Am I retarded and should play vanilla for the rest of my life?
 
Technical checklist:
Oldrim Version: Latest Legendary Edition with SKSE 1.7.3|1.9.32.0|48 (Not sure if version is written correctly)
SSE Version: Latest without SKSE64
PC Stats: NVidia GTX 970, Intel Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4GHZ, 8GB RAM
NMM: Yes
Any other Skyrim tools: Save game script cleaner, LOOT, TESVEdit and Bash (latter two only used in Oldrim)
 
Side by side comparison of load orders
Skyrim Special Edition
  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHairMales.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHair.esm
  9  9     Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
 10  a     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
 13  d     SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
 14  e     BSAssets.esm
 15  f     BSHeartland.esm
 16 10     BS_DLC_patch.esp
 17 11     RSkyrimChildren.esm
 18 12     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 19 13     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 20 14     Predator Vision.esp
 21 15     WICO - Immersive Character.esp
 22 16     WICO - Immersive People.esp
 23 17     WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
 24 18     WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp
 25 19     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 26 1a     SitaFollower.esp
 27 1b     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 28 1c     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 29 1d     VioLens SE.esp
 30 1e     VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
 31 1f     TrueStormsSE.esp
 32 20     Unique Uniques.esp
 33 21     Eli_Breezehome.esp
 34 22     Run For Your Lives.esp
 35 23     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 36 24     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 37 25     WetandCold.esp
 38 26     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 39 27     RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
 40 28     RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
 41 29     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 42 2a     ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
 43 2b     ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp
 44 2c     Crossroads Inn.esp
 45 2d     InnCredible.esp
 46 2e     Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
 47 2f     XPMSE.esp
 48 30     Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
 49 31     Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp
 50 32     Immersive Music Temples.esp
 51 33     Immersive Music.esp
 52 34     ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
 53 35     Laundry.esp
 54 36     JKs Whiterun.esp
 55 37     JK's Riverwood.esp
 56 38     Friendlier Taverns.esp
 57 39     ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
 58 3a     Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
 59 3b     Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp
 60 3c     FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
 61 3d     Insanity's Sorrow.esp
 62 3e     ScytheOfTheCrow.esp
 63 3f     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 64 40     LevelersTower.esp
 65 41     LABikiniSSE.esp
 66 42     Bent Pines.esp
 67 43     windyridge.esp
 68 44     SkyR - Riften Interiors.esp
 69 45     SkyR - Riverwood Interiors.esp
 70 46     SkyR - Solitude Interiors.esp
 71 47     SkyR - Whiterun Interiors.esp
 72 48     SkyR - Windhelm Interiors USP patch.esp
 73 49     SkyR - Windhelm Interiors.esp
 74 4a     ZenitharWorkshop.esp
 75 4b     SarethiManor.esp
 76 4c     FNIS.esp
 77 4d     Skullcave Island 2.5.esp
 78 4e     Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp
 79 4f     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
 80 50     MKH.esp
 81 51     Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp
 82 52     Keeping Warm.esp
 83 53     Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
 84 54     DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp
 85 55     PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
 86 56     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
 87 57     DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
 88 58     DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp
 89 59     MONSTERaider - Beast Followers.esp
 90 5a     EFFDialogue.esp
 91 5b     Uncle Sheo Legendary.esp
 92 5c     Cliffracers_Solstheim_SSE.esp
 93 5d     Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
 94 5e     RedoranGrove.esp
 95 5f     Carpathian Inn.esp
 96 60     OpulentThievesGuild.esp
 97 61     SeaPointSettlement.esp
 98 62     CW-HouseOfTroubles.esp
 99 63     mihailsuthaypahmaralliancecamp.esp
100 64     Redoran's Retreat.esp
101 65     Silent Moons Camp Reborn.esp
102 66     TacticalValtheim.esp
103 67     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
104 68     Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp
105 69     Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp
106 6a     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
107 6b     fallentreebridges.esp
108 6c     Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp
109 6d     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
110 6e     Inigo.esp
111 6f     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
112 70     My Home Is Your Home.esp
113 71     AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
114 72     BlanketScarf.esp
115 73     FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
116 74     AngasMillReborn.esp
117 75     Tel Mithryn.esp
118 76     Blues Skyrim.esp
119 77     VikingShipPlayerHome.esp
120 78     ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp
121 79     Solitude Expansion.esp
122 7a     T'Skyrim Riverwood.esp
123 7b     Winterhold.esp
124 7c     Whitewatch Tower.esp
125 7d     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
126 7e     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
127 7f     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
128 80     Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
129 81     Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
130 82     SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
131 83     SoS_CoT_Patch.esp
132 84     SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp
133 85     SideDragonPriestMasks.esp
134 86     Osare Culort Outfit.esp
135 87     RM Light Elven Armor.esp
136 88     imp_helm_legend.esp
137 89     mihaildwarvenpowerarmor.esp
138 8a     FloraRespawnFix.esp
139 8b     BSHeartlandFRF.esp
140 8c     RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
141 8d     RSChildren.esp
142 8e     __00GrandBathHouse2.esp
143 8f     mihailmudcrabmerchant.esp
144 90     IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
145 91     Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
146 92     Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
147 93     Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
148 94     Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
 
Oldrim
  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairMales.esm
  9  9     RSkyrimChildren.esm
 10  a     ApachiiHair.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
 13  d     RaceCompatibility.esm
 14  e     hdtHighHeel.esm
 15  f     GeneralDisplays.esm
 16 10     GeneralDisplays - DB.esm
 17 11     GeneralDisplays - DG.esm
 18 12     Campfire.esm
 19 13     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 20 14     Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
 21 15     moonpath.esm
 22 16     GeneralStores.esm
 23 17     BSAssets.esm
 24 18     BSHeartland.esm
 25 19     SkyUI.esp
 26 1a     Brawl Bugs CE.esp
 27 1b     ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
 28 1c     FNIS.esp
 29 1d     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
 30 1e     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 31 1f     Dr_BandolierDG.esp
 32 20     Paarthurnax_Bypass.esp
 33 21     ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
 34 22     ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
 35 23     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 36 24     WetandCold.esp
 37 25     WetandCold - Ashes.esp
 38 26     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
 39 27     SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp
 40 28     DeviantKaled's Nord Ship Replacers.esp
 41 29     SKYR Interiors - Riften.esp
 42 2a     LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
 43 2b     imp_helm_legend.esp
 44 2c     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 45 2d     DBM_UnofficialFix_Patch.esp
 46 2e     SkyR - Windhelm Interiors.esp
 47 2f     JKs Skyrim.esp
 48 30     ThengilFarmsRemastered.esp
 49 31     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 50 32     3DNPC.esp
 51 33     Friendlier Taverns.esp
 52 34     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 53 35     Armor and Clothing for Vanilla Child Races.esp
 54 36     RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp
 55 37     hjerimtnf.esp
 56 38     SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
 57 39     SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
 58 3a     SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
 59 3b     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 60 3c     SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
 61 3d     Northern Bathhouses.esp
 62 3e     DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp
 63 3f     TES5R - AngelinesAromatics.esp
 64 40     TES5R -The Bannered Mare.esp
 65 41     TES5R - BitsandPieces.esp
 66 42     iWill_ARavensBreezeHome.esp
 67 43     SkyR - Riverwood Interiors.esp
 68 44     TES5R - Dragonsreach.esp
 69 45     ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp
 70 46     RavenRock.esp
 71 47     SeaPointSettlement.esp
 72 48     SoS - The Wilds.esp
 73 49     OpulentThievesGuild.esp
 74 4a     SoS - Civilization.esp
 75 4b     3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp
 76 4c     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 77 4d     Uncle Sheo Legendary.esp
 78 4e     EatingSleepingDrinking.esp
 79 4f     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 80 50     UIExtensions.esp
 81 51     RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
 82 52     Tempest.esp
 83 53     VioLens.esp
 84 54     SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
 85 55     NIOVHH.esp
 86 56     TrueStorms.esp
 87 57     TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
 88 58     TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
 89 59     FISS.esp
 90 5a     BlanketScarf.esp
 91 5b     Scarves! Skyrim Edition!.esp
 92 5c     LostGrimoire.esp
 93 5d     AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
 94 5e     Differently Ebony.esp
 95 5f     AddItemMenu2.esp
 96 60     Colored Collars.esp
 97 61     The Un-Killable Frost.esp
 99 63     ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
100 64     Proper Aiming.esp
101 65     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
102 66     manny_eyeglasses.esp
103 67     RaceMenu.esp
104 68     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
105 69     Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp
106 6a     FreedomForNightingales.esp
107 6b     RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
108 6c     TES5R - Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
109 6d     ClefJ's Karthwasten.esp
110 6e     Left Hand Crossing.esp
111 6f     TES5R - BelethorsGeneralGoods.esp
112 70     SoS - The Dungeons.esp
113 71     EFFDialogue.esp
114 72     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
115 73     AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
116 74     Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
117 75     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
118 76     Immersive Weapons.esp
119 77     WeistoneHamlet.esp
120 78     TES5R -The Warmaidens.esp
121 79     TES5R - HouseGrayMane.esp
122 7a     Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers.esp
123 7b     Oblivion Gates v3.esp
124 7c     Laundry.esp
125 7d     RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
126 7e     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
127 7f     Tentapalooza.esp
128 80     aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
129 81     Bijin NPCs.esp
130 82     hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
131 83     Battlemage Armour.esp
132 84     Moonpath_NoFakeLight.esp
133 85     ClefJ's Half Moon Mill.esp
134 86     TES5R - HouseClanBattleBorn.esp
135 87     TES5R - Carlottashouse.esp
136 88     WayshrinesIFT.esp
137 89     DarkwaterKeep.esp
138 8a     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
139 8b     Inigo.esp
140 8c     SitaFollower.esp
141 8d     Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
142 8e     Run For Your Lives.esp
143 8f     Cloaks.esp
144 90     TES5R - Helgen Keep.esp
145 91     Diamond Bluff Settlement.esp
146 92     SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
147 93     SMIM-Merged-All.esp
148 94     DBM_HA+IW+IA_Patch.esp
149 95     TES5R - Severioshouse.esp
150 96     ClefJShorsStone.esp
151 97     SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp
152 98     TES5R - Uthgerdshouse.esp
153 99     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
154 9a     Serenity.esp
155 9b     Serenity SeaPoint DLC Patch.esp
156 9c     TES5R -TempleofKynareth.esp
157 9d     CW-HouseOfTroubles.esp
158 9e     TES5R - Amrenshouse.esp
159 9f     Gri_BeastFeet.esp
160 a0     Serana.esp
161 a1     mihailsuthaypahmaralliancecamp.esp
162 a2     RSChildren - Complete.esp
163 a3     nicer-looking argonians.esp
164 a4     Dr_Bandolier.esp
165 a5     TES5R - Olavashouse.esp
166 a6     Daggercross_Alley.esp
167 a7     Crossroads Inn.esp
168 a8     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
169 a9     SFO - Dragonborn.esp
170 aa     SarethiManor.esp
171 ab     JKs Skaal Village.esp
172 ac     SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.esp
173 ad     TES5R -Ysoldashouse.esp
174 ae     moonpath_questdata.esp
175 af     Wynter.esp
176 b0     Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
177 b1     TES5R - Heimskrshouse.esp
178 b2     The Pit.esp
179 b3     RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
180 b4     BlackWoodInn.esp
181 b5     PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
182 b6     JokerineArgonianSettlement.esp
183 b7     Immersive Music Temples.esp
184 b8     plunketStone.esp
185 b9     Immersive Music.esp
186 ba     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
187 bb     SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
188 bc     RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
189 bd     Gildergreen Regrown.esp
190 be     My Home Is Your Home.esp
191 bf     AriasHideaway.esp
192 c0     moonpath_priderockoverhaul.esp
193 c1     ZenitharWorkshop.esp
194 c2     Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
195 c3     mihailmudcrabmerchant.esp
196 c4     Cliffracers_Solstheim.esp
197 c5     The_Sinister_Seven.esp
198 c6     Contractor Armor.esp
199 c7     CloudArmor.esp
200 c8     VimuneFollower.esp
201 c9     BentPines_for_SFO2.0.esp
202 ca     TCoW Improvement.esp
203 cb     Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp
204 cc     Skill Config.esp
205 cd     InigoMCM.esp
206 ce     Detailed Khajiit Heads.esp
207 cf     DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
208 d0     DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
209 d1     khajiitearrings.esp
210 d2     Insanity's Sorrow.esp
211 d3     SerenityCrewPatch.esp
212 d4     Dual Sheath Redux.esp
213 d5     TKDodge.esp
214 d6     Grass Field.esp
215 d7     Gehenoth.esp
216 d8     SideDragonPriestMasks.esp
217 d9     CopyArmor.esp
218 da     RM Light Elven Armor.esp
219 db     Remodeled Armor.esp
220 dc     AhnassiFollower.esp
221 dd     RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
222 de     MKH.esp
223 df     Animallica.esp
224 e0     Headtracking.esp
225 e1     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
226 e2     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
227 e3     Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
228 e4     mihaildwarvenpowerarmor.esp
229 e5     Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
 
PS. If you need any more info, I will gladly try to provide it.
Thank you for taking your time

Edited by theloler19, 14 December 2017 - 11:28 PM.


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it's simple, your Oldrim save is missing mods that are not available for Newrim

 

your best option is to play the oldrim save on Oldrim, and make a brand new character on Newrim. The Oldrim save has mods "baked" into it and EVERY single mod used for the Oldrim character would HAVE to be used in Newrim if you're going to use that particular save.

 

Also, and most importantly. Oldrim mod files were saved differently than the way Newrim saves the files within a mod now. This is most obvious with Mesh, texture, and sound formats

 

From what I see from your load orders you're missing 81 + mods, if you were missing 1 or 2, you might be able to get by, but 81, nope, no way is that save going to work in Newrim


Edited by gromulos, 14 December 2017 - 11:45 PM.


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Thanks for answering Gromulos!

I know that all previous mods persist on Oldrims save data to some degree ,but would it perhaps help if I were to make a new Oldrim save with all the unavailable mods uninstalled?



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That would help greatly conditionally

 

1) all mods you use would have had to be converted CORRECTLY - NEVER assume a mod author has done this

2) You may need to learn how to do this yourself as I did in order to use Cerwiden in SSE, link below

 

https://forums.nexus...erwiden-in-sse/



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Alright, I will see what I can do, maybe I will get it to work. And if I fail ,I will just wait for SKSE64 and other stuff. Thanks for helping Gromulos!

 

UPDATE: For experiments sake I have removed every single of roughly 7000 scripts from my save file. While it has messed few stuff it was pretty much playable and saveable. Of course its not perfect because of for example Tolfdir handing me again Arch-Mage robes. I will keep experimenting.


Edited by theloler19, 23 December 2017 - 01:21 PM.






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