Arena "Ready For a Match" bug

[rockbiter68]

Hey everyone,

 

I just recently returned to a long-running Oblivion game I had and wanted to go back and finish the arena questline. But every time I approach Owyn about it, he tells me I'm not wearing my raiment (I check and I definitely am). I'm Hero rank, if that makes a difference, and I believe it's the last fight before the Grey Prince. I have no idea what to do. I suppose it could be a mod load order issue (so maybe this should be posted in mod troubleshooting? I can post my LO if necessary, but hopefully it won't come to that), but it's weird that nothing has happened up until this point. Also, I can't exactly setstage my way around this one, as the Arena has limited quest stages, so I'm kind of at my wit's end. Any ideas?

[Oblivionaddicted]

As long as you're not the grand-champion you need to wear your blue-team raiment to fight in the arena so you must have a mod altering Oryn's dialogue.

 

The best solution is to alter his dialogue with a custom mod and check for a conflict, otherwise, disable a bunch of mods, check if the problem remains and clean the faulty mod using TES4Edit.

[rockbiter68]

Hm, all right. I've never tinkered with dialogue editing - or at least not any time recently (and it was for Morrowind, I believe). Is there an easy way to do it through TES4Edit?

[rockbiter68]

I made an .esp in the CS and loaded it up for cross-reference in TES4Edit, and I found that TRN One of the Gang was editing certain functions (I think?) of Owyn's dialogue. I copied over the vanilla records and loaded it up, but it didn't change anything. :/

 

EDIT: Disabling TRN One of the Gang didn't do anything, either.

Edited December 24, 2017 by rockbiter68

[rockbiter68]

Okay, another update. I *think* I may have found the issue. But, for good measure, here's my Load Order:

 

Active Mod Files:

00  oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
02  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.1.6]
03  Ulrim's Horses.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.40]
05  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
06  MD_Saddle_Master.esm
07  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.5]
08  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]
09  MigMaster.esm  [Version 1.1]
0A  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0B  Knights - Revelation.esm
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.3]
0D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.7]
11  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
12  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
13  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
14  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
15  Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp  [Version 2.01]
16  Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.4.1]
17  Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp
18  Better Bell Sounds.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
19  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
1A  PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp  [Version v1.32]
1B  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
1C  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
1D  IWR-Lights.esp
1E  WindowLightingSystem.esp
1F  BrumasNorthernLights.esp
20  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
21  Chapel Tithe.esp
22  Custom Class Description.esp
23  DialogTweaks.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
24  Dialogue Idles.esp
25  Glowing Wonders.esp
26  ImprovedSigns.esp
27  More Effective Enchantments.esp
28  MoveQuestItems - OBSE.esp
29  pmRealTimeInteractions.esp
2A  Portable Campsite.esp
2B  Reznod_Mannequin.esp
++  SkeletonShaders.esp
2C  SnowGusts.esp
2D  Hunter's Hunting Trophies.esp
2E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
2F  Bandits, Cutthroats and Thieves.esp
30  kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp
31  Container Menu Support.esp
32  MigMiscellanea.esp  [Version 1.82]
33  MigWolfRestore.esp  [Version 1.0]
34  OblivionReloaded.esp
++  OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp
35  P1DmenuEscape.esp
36  FastShortcuts.esp
37  DLCHorseArmor.esp
38  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
39  DLCOrrery.esp
3A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
3B  DLCVileLair.esp
3C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
**  Lair_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
**  VileLair_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
3D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
3E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
**  Mehrunes_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
3F  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]
40  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
41  Ayleid Artifacts.esp
++  Weapon Improvement Project.esp  [Version 1.9]
42  Slof's Horses Base.esp
43  HRMHorseArmor.esp
++  HRMHorseArmorSlofsHorsesPatch.esp
44  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
45  Horse Management.esp  [Version 1.31-SI]
46  MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp
47  DLCThievesDen.esp
48  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
49  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
**  ThievesDen_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
4A  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]
4B  Retroactive Health.esp
4C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.40]
4D  More Effective Enchantments OOO.esp
4E  OOOHangoverRemedy.esp
++  BMEnchantmentRebalance.esp
4F  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
50  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
51  OOOCreatureAddons.esp
52  OOOEquipmentAddon.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
53  Akaviri Heirlooms.esp
54  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
55  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
++  Kvatch Rebuilt Fixes.esp
56  Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp
57  OCR + Kvatch Rebuilt Patch.esp  [Version 4.0]
**  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
58  Nerussa The Wine Collector v1.0.esp
59  Nerussa's Wine Collection version B.esp
5A  Shivering Isles Root System.esp
5B  Elder Council Plugin 1.1.esp
5C  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.1]
5D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
5E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
**  Battlehorn_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
5F  DLCFrostcrag.esp
60  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
61  BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
62  Ulrim's Horses.esp
63  Knights.esp
**  Knights - Book Jackets.esp
64  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.6]
65  Knights - Revelation.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
**  Knights_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
66  More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp
++  PikachunoTM Delayed DLC.esp
++  Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp
67  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.1]
68  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp
**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
69  The Lost Spires.esp
6A  OCR + Lost Spires Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]
6B  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
6C  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
6D  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
6E  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
6F  Better daedric shrines full.esp
70  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
71  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
72  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
73  xulTheHeath.esp
74  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
75  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
76  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
77  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
78  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
79  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
7A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
7B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
7C  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
7D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
7E  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
7F  RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp  [Version 1.1]
80  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
81  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
82  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
83  xulPantherRiver.esp
84  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
85  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
86  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
87  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
88  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
89  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
8A  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
8B  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
8C  RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 1.1]
8D  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
8E  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
8F  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
90  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
91  RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp  [Version 1.2]
92  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
93  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
94  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
95  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.2]
96  Unique Landscapes.esp  [Version Dummy]
97  BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
98  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
99  Open Cities Reborn.esp  [Version 1.1.7]
9A  OCR + OOO Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.1]
9B  OCR+ULCH Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
9C  OCR+ULBWForest Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
9D  RST+OCR Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
9E  RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.1]
9F  OCR+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
A0  OCR+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
A1  Sounds of Cyrodiil - OC Reborn Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
A2  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
A3  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
A4  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
A5  Disarm Traps.esp
A6  DynamicFootPosition.esp
A7  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
A8  FixContDisappearBug.esp
A9  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]
AA  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]
++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]
AB  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp
AC  Reworked Posts.esp
AD  xulBravilBarrowfields + RP Patch.esp
AE  SM Essential Kills.esp  [Version 1.02]
AF  Stav_ImperialDragon.esp
B0  tbskGuardsFeatures.esp
++  tbskGuardsFeatures OOO Patch.esp
++  UnleveledQuestRewards.esp
++  UnleveledQuestRewardsDLCFilter.esp
B1  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
B2  Ashes to Ashes.esp  [Version 1.0]
B3  spelliconreplace.esp
B4  Real Time Lockpicking Minigames.esp
B5  pmCrimeHandler.esp
B6  TRN One of the Gang.esp
B7  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
B8  Denock Arrows.esp
B9  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
BA  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
BB  HAZeatanimations.esp
BC  eyja.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
BD  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
++  OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
++  OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
++  OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
++  OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
++  OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
++  OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
BE  OOOShiveringIsles.esp
BF  BalancedMagic.esp
C0  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
C1  All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
C2  Better Cities IC Arena - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
C3  Better Cities IC Waterfront - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 1.5]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
C4  Productive Mines.esp
C5  cloud ruler temple - clouds.esp
C6  SRDCrucibleHouses.esp
C7  Mothy Moth Cult.esp
C8  UnEssentialAfterQuest.esp
C9  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
++  Tidy Patch - rockbiter68.esp
CA  OOO - Loose Ends.esp

I think what's causing the issue is OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp, which is from the older versions of Oblivion Reloaded but isn't necessary anymore (to my knowledge). As I understand it, it made it so the raiments worked properly. Why it wouldn't be necessary anymore I wouldn't know, but I'm going to backup my files, remove it, and rebuild my Bashed Patch and see what that does.

EDIT: Okay, that didn't do anything, either. Anyone have any ideas here based on what I've got?

Edited December 24, 2017 by rockbiter68

[Oblivionaddicted]

Why did you rebuild the bashed patch?

What happens if you also disable the bashed patch?

 

By the way TES4Edit is a mod-cleaner ; you can't create mods with it.

[rockbiter68]

I think I rebuilt it because OblivionReloadedArenaCombat was included in that patch, but I'm not sure - just wanted to be safe. Anyways, I did bite the bullet and started disabling mods after backing everything up (probably overly cautious, but oh well). Disabling the Bashed Patch didn't do anything, but disabling Dialogue Tweaks and Dialgue Idles did; Owyn's "Ready for a Match" dialogue was working properly (I guess it should have been obvious, maybe?) Still in the process of narrowing it down to which one it is - although I'm guessing it's Tweaks - but I'd hate to get rid of either one. I'm going to seen if I can clean/edit them with TES4Edit and see what that does.

[rockbiter68]

So, this is interesting: I left all of my mods checked and started the game up, just to be sure I had isolated the problem mod, and loaded my game without any of the missing content warnings. And everything worked fine. I talked to Owyn, finished the last fight to reach Champion, and then was able to talk to Ysabel and fight the Grey Prince. So.... I still have NO idea what was happening there. If I had to guess, it would have been from those two mods that I was thinking it was, but I have no way of telling for certain (recording this on the off chance that someone encounters this same problem - not that this is much of a solution, unfortunately).

 

Anyways, thanks for your help, Oblivoinaddicted.

[Oblivionaddicted]

Take a look in Dialogue Tweaks and Dialgue Idles one of them probably adds a filter that changes the answer you get once you reach the hero rank.

[rockbiter68]

Yeah, I imagine one of them must. I'll have to pop them open in TES4Edit and see which one of them was messing around with it. Might be a bit, because for now, everything works - but I'll post my findings here in case anyone else does have this problem.