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NPC Face meshes/color mismatch/facetint problem


ZuluS162

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Hello everyone. Here is a problem I really need help with. Any NPC in my current Skyrim build has a mix of annoying troubles with their faces. Doesn't matter if it's vanilla NPC, modded vanilla NPC or NPC added by mod. I can't realy say what's the source of the problem, though I have some guesses. I've ran into this bug after I moved from Nexus Mod Manager to Mod Organizer.

As I sad, this is a mix of Skyrim face bugs:

  1. NPC face color mismatch bug.
  2. NPCs with custom face meshes don't have correct one.
  3. NPC facetint bug.

I've tried to fix theese bugs separately: reinstalled related mod many times, resolved any found cosmetic mod incompatabilities, exported FaceGenData (something is wrong with it too, I'll provide extra information about it if needed.) but nothing of it helped.

Here is some screenshots to show you what is happening.

Pic #1: Normal modded vanilla NPC (Bijin Warmaidens) with no face glitches on them. This is happening when I load saved game right after Skyrim launched.

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Pic #2: Same NPCs just a few seconds after with face glitch applied. This is happening when I change world cells (e.g fast travel/walk in/out of a house/dungeon/e.t.c.) or reload the saved game while playing.

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Pic #3: Vanilla unmodded NPC without glitch. Same situation as on Pic #1.

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Pic #4: Same NPC after reloading saved game while playing.

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Pic #5: NPC added by mod. Same situation as on Pic #1.

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Pic #6: Same NPC after changing cell.

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Pic#7: Modded vanilla child (TKAA (The Kids Are Alright)). Same as Pic#1.

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Pic#8: Same NPC after reloading saved game/changing cell (something with her hair too).

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Load Order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm
7 7 Falskaar.esm
8 8 Wyrmstooth.esp
9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm
10 a SGHairPackBase.esm
11 b SexLab.esm
12 c SexLabAroused.esm
13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
14 e Devious Devices - Assets.esm
15 f Skyrim unleashed II.esm
16 10 Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp
17 11 BeeingFemale.esm
18 12 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
19 13 BSAssets.esm
20 14 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
21 15 BSHeartland.esm
22 16 Campfire.esm
23 17 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
24 18 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
25 19 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
26 1a daymoyl.esm
27 1b OSA.esm
28 1c WM Flora Fixes.esp
29 1d EFFCore.esm
30 1e ApachiiHair.esm
31 1f ApachiiHairFemales.esm
32 20 Cutting Room Floor.esp
33 21 SkyUI.esp
34 22 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
35 23 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
36 24 XPMSE.esp
37 25 FNIS.esp
38 26 RaceMenu.esp
39 27 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
40 28 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
41 29 CEM-AiO.esp
42 2a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
43 2b SLAnimLoader.esp
44 2c SexLabTools.esp
45 2d SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp
46 2e SLAL_K4Anims.esp
47 2f NibblesAnimObjects.esp
48 30 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
49 31 UIExtensions.esp
50 32 AddItemMenu2.esp
51 33 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
52 34 Enhanced Landscapes.esp
53 35 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
54 36 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
55 37 WetandCold.esp
56 38 AOS.esp
57 39 Animated Dragon Wings.esp
58 3a Real Flying.esp
59 3b CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
60 3c SnowFall Weathers.esp
61 3d Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp
62 3e Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
63 3f Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
64 40 WetFunction.esp
65 41 Za Warudo.esp
66 42 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
67 43 SLALAnimObj.esp
68 44 SlaveTats.esp
69 45 TakeNotes.esp
70 46 Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
71 47 JaxonzRenamer.esp
72 48 ResplendentArmor.esp
73 49 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
74 4a PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
75 4b VSCiriProjectTW3.esp
76 4c DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
77 4d DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp
78 4e KKFur.esp
79 4f SimplyKnock.esp
80 50 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
81 51 Private Needs.esp
82 52 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
83 53 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
84 54 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
85 55 VioLens.esp
86 56 TKDodge.esp
87 57 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
88 58 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
89 59 Differently Ebony.esp
90 5a imp_helm_legend.esp
91 5b ICH - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp
92 5c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
93 5d LootandDegradation.esp
94 5e 3DNPC.esp
95 5f Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
96 60 Skyrim Romance Animated.esp
97 61 ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp
98 62 KS Jewelry.esp
99 63 Civil War Overhaul.esp
100 64 BHTNF_Eli.esp
101 65 MainMenu.esp
102 66 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
103 67 Ambriel.esp
104 68 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
105 69 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
106 6a Immersive Weapons.esp
107 6b Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
108 6c TheChoiceIsYours.esp
109 6d Tentapalooza.esp
110 6e Inconsequential NPCs.esp
111 6f SMIM-Merged-All.esp
112 70 TKAA.esp
113 71 sanguinesDebauchery.esp
114 72 Hunterborn.esp
115 73 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
116 74 Immersive Horses.esp
117 75 Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp
118 76 Frostfall.esp
119 77 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
120 78 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
121 79 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
122 7a Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
123 7b Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp
124 7c Unique Uniques.esp
125 7d FurSet by keung.esp
126 7e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
127 7f Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
128 80 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
129 81 Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp
130 82 PlayRandomIdle.esp
131 83 Better Vampires.esp
132 84 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
133 85 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
134 86 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp
135 87 PuppetMaster.esp
136 88 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
137 89 Ursine Armour.esp
138 8a Sneak Tools.esp
139 8b SexLab_Hormones.esp
140 8c Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
141 8d Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
142 8e SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
143 8f Devious Deviants.esp
144 90 isilNarsil.esp
145 91 CTR_Patch_EnhancedLandscapes.esp
146 92 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
147 93 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
148 94 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
149 95 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
150 96 EggFactory.esp
151 97 CTR_Patch_UniqueUniques.esp
152 98 Skyrim unleashed II.esp
153 99 EFFDialogue.esp
154 9a DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
155 9b Toccata as Elisif.esp
156 9c iHUD.esp
157 9d AHZmoreHUD.esp
158 9e Extended UI.esp
159 9f BlushWhenAroused.esp
160 a0 DovahBlingJewelryMerged.esp
161 a1 LandLord_.esp
162 a2 Bijin Wives.esp
163 a3 Bijin NPCs.esp
164 a4 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
165 a5 SexLabMilkMod.esp
166 a6 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
167 a7 DAZ3D.esp
168 a8 TradeBarter.esp
169 a9 KS Hairdo's.esp
170 aa GoToBed.esp
171 ab Dr_Bandolier.esp
172 ac DeadlyHeadshots_v200.esp
173 ad CoverSelf.esp
174 ae Serana.esp
175 af Valerica.esp
176 b0 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
177 b1 SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp
178 b2 Player Size Adjuster.esp
179 b3 CitrusHead - Standalone.esp
180 b4 SL Deadly Drain.esp
181 b5 SOS - Penis Plugin.esp
182 b6 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
183 b7 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
184 b8 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
185 b9 RealisticWaterTwo - Patches.esp
186 ba RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
187 bb RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
188 bc Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
189 bd ImmerSlave.esp
190 be ELFX - Hardcore.esp
191 bf Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp
192 c0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
193 c1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

As you can see, I have quite heavily modded game. Can this be a reason? I have some guesses about glitch source though.
  • I did something wrong with my Mod Organizer or game configs. I haven't ran into this bug when I was using Nexus Mod Manager.
  • CITUS Head meshes mod caused it
  • Skyrim/PC just can't handle all the mods.

PC rig:

Intel Core I5 2300 4x2.8 GHz
ASUS GTX 1060 6GB
16 GB DDR3 1333 MHz
Win 10 Pro

I will provide any extra information if needed. Really hope you can help me solve this trouble. Thank you in advance.

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  • 1 month later...

I dont know if ur problem still exist but it is clearly a conflict between the head meshes (facegen) of the npc.First what you can do is looking if there are different meshes in use.

 

For example find out the ID of one NPC that has that problem (in your picture for example Lydia) - her ID number you can get by loading the skyrim.esm in tes5edit/ssedit and search in the left panel under non player character and in that List should be "housecarlWhiterun" to find. Write down the Form ID and exit without saving. You can also find the Form ID Number by searching in google, but not every source is correct or complete. So Lydia for example has 000a2cbe - this number you enter in search field of your skyrim data folder or in your case in the subfolder "mods" of the mod organizer path. In the result texture (dds) and meshes (nif) should be shown. Important is that the meshes should look the same (you can open them with nifscope and will see if there are difference). For Bijin for example the facegen mesh should be in meshes\actors\character\facegendata\facegeom\<modname>.esp but also meshes\actors\character\facegendata\facegeom\skyrim.esm. If the last path is missing create in the same mod that path structure and only copy the content of the folder of <modname>.esp into the new subfolder skyrim.esm. Same you do with the textures.

 

Other possibility is, that other mod overwrite, but that you easily already found out by the ID search in the mod folder (but also look in the path of your Data folder in the normal Skyrim path) or in loading all esp in tes5edit if two mods change the same character (appears red then). Also if you have the citrus head installed and saved something else in CreationKit, you accidently could have created new facegen meshes. Just make sure they all with the same ID have the same look.

 

I have every character in my game replaced too make everyone look unique - so have been through a lot of troubles with that too :) Hope I could help u a bit and it fixes the issue that you have

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Have you tried moving Bijin mods as an entire package lower down your load order so nothing overwrites them? Put TKAA.esp and its dependencies below Bijin AIO.esp I had same issue not long ago with a very complex npc setup including Ultimate NPC overhaul 2, Bijin mods some other mods I forget the names of a TES5Merged file overwriting something along with a bashed patch. Only way I could fix it was to put all my NPC altering mods into a block and move them in MO so Ult NPC overhaul 2 and Bijin along with TKAA are loading late. Not seen it happen since.

Now it goes something like this.

ESM's

rest of my mods

NPC mod 1

NPC mod 2

Bijin mods

TKAA

TKAA dependencies

160 mods running. Actually I just looked an I may need to resort em again but I tried hiding texture files in MO I checked them in xEdit my only fix was an ESP move. Make sure you mirror that load order in left and right pain. BTW It bugged me for 3 or 4 days. xEdit pointed the way.

Good luck hope it helped

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Hi! Have same problems
i'm using NMM and never even try MO so problem is not there
This is definetly not citrus head problem (tested on this week)
and if its in PC rig - well then its CPU fault
I have i5 2500 8 gb ddr3 1333mhz win10 and gtx770 4gb
and mb some engine limitations Skyrim LE

looking for cure already around month and still nothing
trying to change loadorder dont work as you all can see then you loads near npc its have good looking and properly working heads and bug acure then npc changes their locations from one cell to other or reloads game

So its or SKSE related things - like npc managment with nioverride
Or engine limitations
or some 3rd thing

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hi same thing also happens to me but i dont have any npc mods that alter npc appearances like bijin, pandorable or anything. it only happens to my character. can u guys help?

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