So it's just easier to blame the rich people or blame the government, is that it?
And to be clear ... My father was a Boilermaker with an average income, which he spent almost entirely on my older sister. The A$$hole would insult me in front of friends and guests and tell people that I was a mistake and an unwanted child.
My primary school, was a little over 4 miles from where I lived, and was only a single building (one room, with one teacher) for all classes and grades, and I walked there every day. I didn't even own a pair of shoes until I was 7 years old, and when the school insisted that I had to have a pair, my a$$hole father gave me an old pair of my sisters shoes (with pink love hearts drawn all over them) So i started doing a paper route in my local area to buy my own. My high school was over 15 miles from my house, and I had to ride a bicycle to get there (which I bought myself second hand).
I left school (and my piss poor family) when I was fifteen, and I've been working ever since. I now have a net worth in the six digit range, I own 6 properties (houses and units) outright and have nearly paid off my seventh. I have 2 university degrees and am working on my third, by doing classes and studies at night after work. It wasn't "easy" but there were no physical impediments to me succeeding as I have, only laziness and self entitlement could have stopped me, but I didn't let them.
That is the opportunity Capitalism gave me and others (that, and a refusal to just give up and whine about how bad my life was), which Communism ( or Marxism) wouldn't have given me.
So yes, I DO deny that poor people (however you want to define that term) "have" to work and as such preclude there being anything they can do to improve their situation, with no recourse whatsoever, but then, I'm in "denial" apparently ...
Plus, you castigate others for using the term "human nature" as an excuse for them not to even try and change things and as such they aren't "good" people, but then you turn around and claim that poor people can't help themselves, and rich people are the root of all evils, and we can't change that, because that's just how the world is. You don't see the double standard there?
Take your SJW nonsense and proselytizing out on someone else please.
This - that is something communism can never give. I always have to remind myself such stories to have some hope - for me this is the sense of life - to fulfill your dreams and visions and communism took that away from people. If I could describe it in a different words (I almost forgot about) it would be - the world of unfulfilled dreams. When I look at my parents I see people who got old, spending their lives for nothing, being nothing, all their dreams stuffled under their night time pillows and notes. Communism never allowed people to do what they wanted, never even allowed to have visions - like those cows allowed to live eat and sleep to be milked and killed for meat and nothing more. That is why in communism you had no value - not just for others, but for yourself.
I realised that the reason why I had to talk about practical communism is the question self - why is communism a bad word - it is for me.
But back to the topic - I had to read the communistic manifest and what wiki says about Marx - it is easier in my language than in english, so here it is:
they generally didn't believe in personal property - I saw results in my country and it was the worst you could do to economy - in reality people don't care about anything they don't own, so workers started to steal everything because it did belong to the state, so according to them it belonged to everyone, so practically they were not stealing. Also they didn't use any effort to make it better, they were just doing what they were told without any initiative, because initiative is connected to risks,but why take risks if you have no personal gain? Also all the buildings became ruins, because nobody cared if they look good or not, there was no competition. Also people didn't care about their own houses too - I don't know if it that was their nature or if they simply applied general trend and stop to care about anything. But now you can see repaired farms everywhere and nice looking houses.
and the manifest itself:
When it comes to land properties I may agree with them when it comes to nature - forests and parks. Because basically capitalism is about making money, but sometimes you want to preserve values which don't produce any money, that is when state should take over, but only forests and so on, not farms or properties already making money for the reasons I said above. Also what we saw in UK - when a private company takes over something so needed as transports it will almost disable it for people. So not only perserving values, but also key important holdings. And also the land property in UK was a terrible experience for me. I was used to go everywhere in my country, but in UK it felt like I couldn't do almost anything. And I agree with free schools for kids.
It looks like reaction to their generation problems with too much rich and powerful people abusing their powers they coudl do nothing about - that would apply to corporations today, but maybe they would change some details if they would see reality today in this generation.
Edited by Mudran, 14 February 2018 - 07:52 AM.