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Suran Underworld Mod quest problem


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SO, as you can see, I just got the "traitor" quest, right? NAnLPkG.png

AND as you can see in both the above screenie & the one below, it tells me to talk to my fellow Bloodfang Tong members, right?

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BUT, look in these other screenies what happens when I talked to everyone (I did talk to everyone, I didn't want to post a screenie of every single person I talked to!) NOBODY but NOBODY has the topic!

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I could not even get any info from the Sload!!

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So can someone please please help me??? I do not even know where to begin! I am so stuck! I can't even start the quest, you know? Who/what am I missing? Who do I talk to w/ that topic?

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Ok as far as the mods I am using, check these out:

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& as far as the latter thing, Idk how to recreate w/e error, nor if there is an error, but here is what my warnings.txt file says:

 

 

 

Object reference "Ex_MH_Palacewin_02"
missing in master file.
Current file "Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP"
Cell "Mournhold, Great Bazaar"
Object reference "in_m_sewer_trapdoor_01"
missing in master file.
Current file "Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP"
Cell "Old Mournhold: Palace Sewers"
Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 1827267081687621848-"The merchants of the Suran Merchant's Guild can be found in the lower sewers. If it can be sold, they'll have it. We of the Tong make our home in the upper sewers. There you can find the Overlord, thought he's particular as to who he talks to. Valaya, his right hand, handles most Tong business, including Tong membership."
Previous string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 646119943318678334-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 2963712435680719868-"What do you mean you're looking for me? I don't know you, do I? You say you have a note from Ernil?"
Previous string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 2225931001740931554-"Aside from Captain Carius, I'm the only one here worth talking to."
Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 2510497661224629443-"Try Fort Frostmoth, the Skaal Village or Thirsk. That's always a good place to start."
Previous string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 273938299215761706-"I mind my own business. Why don't you mind yours, outlander?"
Following string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 6845170651501226134-"We are still at war with the Dark Brotherhood. Do not forget that."
Previous string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 2645524591143603526-"I know of no such brotherhood. Perhaps you need to speak to one of the Imperials in the south."
Following string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 2645524591143603526-"I know of no such brotherhood. Perhaps you need to speak to one of the Imperials in the south."
Previous string is different for topic "Dark Brotherhood" info 98651948238611929-"So Tsrazami was an agent of the Dark Brotherhood. Alas, she left Vvardenfell or is dead. Perhaps we can find another contact."
Previous string is different for topic "Service Refusal" info 23295123702187725686-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "travel together" info 1627714415913516768-"Habasi hears you broke our agreement. Habasi does not want to speak with you now."
Previous string is different for topic "travel together" info 311145106599129747-"I better stay here."
Following string is different for topic "travel together" info 311882790128006716-"We should continue to travel together, should we not?"
Previous string is different for topic "travel together" info 3230111137262605603-"It was quite a journey, wasn't it?"
Following string is different for topic "specific place" info 749914731240121175-"Pelagiad is the next town up the road. Cross the bridge out of town and just stay on the road. From Pelagiad, take the road north to Balmora and Caldera, or east to Ebonheart and Vivec. If you have the cash, and are in a hurry, or afraid of getting lost, take the silt strider to Balmora or Vivec. Speak to Darvame Hleran at the silt strider landing, across the bridge and south along the shore. And if you plan to travel widely, get a copy of 'Guide to Vvardenfell' from Arrille. It's got maps."
Previous string is different for topic "specific place" info 1906014833141124249-"The amenities here are poor, at best. Certainly nothing like what I'm used to. There's a shrine and an armory, but little else. Raven Rock, however, boasts a bar and a Trader's Outpost. All thanks to me, of course."
Following string is different for topic "specific place" info 2507514325217048758-"This island is littered with ice caves, barrows, and standing stones. There are no roads, though, so you'll have to walk through the wilderness to get anywhere."
Previous string is different for topic "specific place" info 6643274893123421616-"I'm not here to give you directions, outlander. Go ask your friends."
Following string is different for topic "Apelles Matius" info 3163273781849611460-"He's recently arrived from Cyrodiil. You'll likely find him inspecting the grounds at Ebonheart."
Previous string is different for topic "Apelles Matius" info 2054126209125913879-"Who?"
Following string is different for topic "little advice" info 2094220342252388225-"No one will ever grow rich hunting. But it is a pure pleasure for itself. Take your time. Sneak up on your prey. Surprise it with a swift, silent arrow. There is no greater pleasure than to drop a cliff racer with a single arrow."
Previous string is different for topic "little advice" info 1470721697254192970-"Just because Hrothmund's Bane is magically sealed, that doesn't mean there isn't...something inside waiting for you. Be ready for a fight."
Following string is different for topic "little advice" info 639211272825421477-"They say spriggans die three deaths. Best to avoid them if I were you."
Previous string is different for topic "little advice" info 157403399120459055-"Go around trouble. Leave it behind you. Then return, later, when you can give trouble a big surprise."
Following string is different for topic "little secret" info 1656921162306334539-"Smuggling raw glass is a crime. All raw glass belongs to the Emperor, so it's the crime of treason, and punished by death. But... there's so much money to be made selling black market raw glass that it's a rare merchant who'll refuse to buy a piece from you. Of course, if the mine guards catch you stealing raw glass, they just kill you. Which is why we don't steal raw glass."
Previous string is different for topic "little secret" info 10383195842825314349-"The name of the wolf that killed Hrothmund is "Ondjage." You'll need to say his name to enter Hrothmund's Barrow. Say any other name and you'll NEVER be able to get in!"
Following string is different for topic "little secret" info 2885157303112614253-"They say there's pirate treasure buried somewhere on the island. Been here for a hundred years, and nobody's ever found it."
Previous string is different for topic "little secret" info 3059715983399729955-"Smuggling raw glass is a crime. All raw glass belongs to the Emperor, so it's the crime of treason, and punished by death. But... there's so much money to be made selling black market raw glass that it's a rare merchant who'll refuse to buy a piece from you. Of course, if the mine guards catch you stealing raw glass, they just kill you. Which is why we don't steal raw glass."
Following string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 16325102782849326701-"The skies are clear all over Morrowind? Even on Red Mountain? I cannot believe it."
Previous string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 2024114207272511002-"Rumors? Are you mad? There's no time for such nonsense!"
Following string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 17201001920384849-"Have you heard what the natives say about reavers? I've heard Fort Frostmoth patrols encounter them up north."
Previous string is different for topic "latest rumors" info 2606929671165928504-"So. You are Nerevarine. When will you go to Red Mountain to face the Devil Dagoth Ur?"
Previous string is different for topic "Advancement" info 307481458477726961-"You are the Grandmaster of House Hlaalu, %PCName."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 0" info 7532245362007625229-"Where did you get that! The armor you wear is sacred to our Order. You shall be punished with blood!"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 0" info 1556426861203214287-"You violated the law, %PCName. Pay the court %PCCrimeLevel gold and surrender your stolen goods, or surrender your stolen goods and serve your sentence of hard labor. Deliver the gold immediately, or come with me."
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 0" info 27638249131682119725-"I did not wish this upon you, Blodskaal, but you leave me little choice."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 0" info 21776189282283124423-"You! Criminal and obscene beast! There is no escape for you, foul creature!"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 0" info 196804487824232374-"You violated the law, %PCName. Pay the court %PCCrimeLevel gold and surrender your stolen goods, or surrender your stolen goods and serve your sentence of hard labor. Deliver the gold immediately, or come with me."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 20481194642735427051-"[You have failed your Oath of Silence]"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 9481268881066719826-"Hmmm, you look like you could be fun to work with. Talk to Narayla if your looking for a job."
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 19137490125553988-"Ah, %PCName. Friend of the Temple, and healer of Mournhold. What can I do for you?"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 1588813549227325295-"All is silence. The road is straight, without turning, in darkness. Now let there be an end to all things."
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 310941559979747883-"The winds have whispered to me, %PCName. They have told me of your failure to enter Hrothmund's Barrow. In order to become chieftain of Thirsk, you needed to enter the barrow and grasp the axe of Hrothmund to receive his blessing. Now, that will never happen. This is a sad day. I fear Thirsk will never reopen."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 161327371335131073-"You honor me with this decision! Songs will be written of our glorious battle! It is true that in my heart I wish to be defeated, so that I may enter Sovngarde. But know, this %PCName. I will fight, and fight valiantly, as I have all my life. You will probably die by my hand. I will grant no quarter, no mercy, and I expect no less from you. Go now. Prepare for battle. When you are ready, speak with me again, and then we shall engage in armed combat!"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 1527335051386222389-"New theories, you say? Let me see the book you speak of. Hmmm.... Could this be? Is it possible the entrance to Sovngarde lie right before me all along? It makes so much sense! %PCName, you've done it! You've found the way to Sovngarde! All I need to do is die valiantly in combat! But how.... I know! You, %PCName! You must help me! You must defeat me in armed combat and send my soul to Sovngarde! Tell me, will you honor me with a fight to the death?"
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 224541147282137952-"CHAPPY -- BLOODMOON GREETINGS ABOVE"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 1" info 14849203321598615886-"Well. Someone finally found me. Your bad luck, really."
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 2" info 155311419625522406-"Vampire! The Light of Day will bring you to your end!"
Previous string is different for topic "Greeting 3" info 22580190852053612072-"Traitors to the %Faction must die."
Following string is different for topic "Greeting 3" info 22580190852053612072-"Traitors to the %Faction must die."
Following string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 31868303082881712450-"Nerevarine? Is that a new play? I like plays."
Previous string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 2516829878244647484-"Neva-what? You making fun of me, little one?"
Following string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 2516829878244647484-"Neva-what? You making fun of me, little one?"
Previous string is different for topic "Nerevarine" info 2121218601181417485-"You were right, %PCName. I am not much of a hero, but I can only try to do my duty to the tribe. And now that the Devil is dead, and the Blight is gone, perhaps there will be time enough and peace enough for me to learn what I must learn to be a leader... like my father."
Previous string is different for topic "Background" info 2583529070786213408-"I am %name, I serve Almalexia as one of Her Hands."
Following string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 2340447542946020638-"Almalexia is Healing Mother, the source of compassion and sympathy, and protector of the poor and weak."
Previous string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 13650299452809212756-"I know of no such person. Why do you ask me such ridiculous things?"
Following string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 3209316448104727492-"Never heard of her."
Previous string is different for topic "Almalexia" info 1766720843232323511-"Almalexia is Healing Mother, the source of compassion and sympathy, and protector of the poor and weak."
Previous string is different for topic "messenger" info 2130225667299072981-"Yeh see the look on his face? Ha ha! Wasn' expectin' that, I can tell yeh!"
Previous string is different for topic "Intruder" info 8365116839732275-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "my trade" info 10924273023043113826-"I'm a lover and a killer. What more is there in life?"
Following string is different for topic "my trade" info 961610326284295759-"I am a merchant. I look for goods that are well-made, that people want to buy, that I can buy and sell at a profit. There are many different kinds of materials I can buy and sell -- animal products, vegetable products, mineral products, even exotic products. Crafts and manufactured goods I deal in include weapons, armor, clothing, books, potions, enchanted items, and various housewares. I travel, talk with people I meet, buy what I like, and sell what people like."
Following string is different for topic "Services" info 117304192119123004-"Yes, we of the Suran Merchant's Guild provide services to the general public. The BloodFang Tong has their own merchants, though they are more limited in their goods. Look around, if you have the gold, we have the product."
Previous string is different for topic "Services" info 30825219281734727358-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "Services" info 9706194263037723833-"I sell potions and spells, charms and marvels. And I can teach some of what I know, if you can pay."
Previous string is different for topic "Services" info 25659223951448129046-"Aside from this shop, you mean? Well, that's an easy answer. Nothing. If it's not for sale here, you'll have to try checking at Fort Frostmoth. And, given my stock, it's probably not for sale here."
Following string is different for topic "Services" info 9342260382643123768-"If you want to stock up on supplies, you'd best take the boat back to Vvardenfell. You'll find plenty of armor and weapons on Solstheim, but little else."
Previous string is different for topic "Services" info 1814954861644214188-"We have our own Blades Trainers, of course. And there're many public services available in Balmora. Members get better prices from Guild Services. The Balmora Fighters Guild and Balmora Mages Guild are across the river. You'll find contacts for the Balmora Thieves Guild in the South Wall up the street. And there's an Imperial Cult shrine at nearby Moonmoth Legion Fort."
Following string is different for topic "go free" info 2847517866258810790-"I am sorry. Please forgive me."
Previous string is different for topic "go free" info 267091420155215554-"You have the key. Will you let me go free?"
Previous string is different for topic "goblins" info 19584123791749612604-"Oh yeah, sure. Heard ya the f-f-first time."
Following string is different for topic "Attack" info 19988258581469726672-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Attack" info 321254531168523746-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Attack" info 487276111250324150-"Arrgh!"
Previous string is different for topic "Attack" info 10819118262520816930-"Growl!"
Following string is different for topic "Attack" info 10424655113488099-"I’ve got the cure for your curse right here."
Previous string is different for topic "Attack" info 13500177932814824645-"Rarrh!"
Previous string is different for topic "Errand" info 92501845924729422-"Yes, yes. You've completed the errand, and I'm quite satisfied."
Previous string is different for topic "reward" info 23581140912466830200-"I've already given you your reward. Thank you again."
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 14186299453028224504-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 291042261518712192-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 291042261518712192-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2195928081229820053-"Beware the Black Dart gang, adventurer."
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 29772289041447114598-"I smell your blood, mortal."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2598920552312891917-"Welcome to MY world, where we do things MY way."
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 1097260391359021977-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 1709302711210241-"Growl!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 727119801356926465-"So old.... So weary."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 29416250231050910157-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 289151215526575827-"I'm listening."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2377424419402128586-"Hiss!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 193626649300348706-"Enough!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 100717462151923586-"A vampire! No!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 289572473864914090-"What?"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2489211522149417613-"Growls"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 2866373432984822833-"Get out of here!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2476368512395916288-"Grrrowl!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 19655139492124621071-"Rrrarrwlll!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2318213892201018469-"Stay away, vile creature!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 18042172187184160-"Get out of here. What are you trying to do, make me sick?"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 1259416343208371526-"No! Go away vampire!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 1070817145251125548-"I think it would be best if you leave. Now."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 21611123811637528820-"Unholy beast! Go away!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 99153508560424170-"Do not toy with me!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 155011096921286940-"Unholy beast! Go away!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 280161356010737453-"Get out of here!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 3094622436303981390-"Die creature! Be gone with you!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 3077642781470924959-"What?"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 7334200891708420609-"Die creature! Be gone with you!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 33485689244183659-"Get out of here, before you get hurt!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 2642276521407631585-"Stay away, vile creature!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 99119678299585073-"You're about to find more trouble than you can possibly imagine."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 32487276561501719829-"Foul beast! Away with you!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 89610669475719930-"Get out of here!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 3966147732453723548-"Foul beast! Away with you!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 377929908299716991-"Get out of here."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 192212928269169116-"I curse you, vampire! Away!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 140831737168806833-"Get out of here!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 16554129362829529645-"I curse you, vampire! Away!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 223444002988615046-"That is quite enough!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 67652052200513841-"Arrh! A vampire. Go away!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 2947982528815345-"Get out of here."
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 4023266701722626284-"Arrh! A vampire. Go away!"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 31501188841832923118-"Get out of here!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hello" info 98302372327767126-"Hisses"
Following string is different for topic "Hello" info 28827273581366114744-"What?"
Previous string is different for topic "Thief" info 10394141353026432359-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Alarm" info 78102235536611098-"Noooo!"
Previous string is different for topic "Suran" info 2058725008273927969-"It is on the north shore of Lake Masobi, in the northwest corner of the Ascadian Isles. You can get there by going east from Pelagiad and around the north side of the Dren Plantation, following the roads east until you reach Suran, or you can take a Silt Strider from Molag Mar or Vivec."
Following string is different for topic "Idle" info 1384420962792119531-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Idle" info 16462055017136588-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Idle" info 2753017911425526969-"Now... if I could just figure a scheme of classifying manifolds for TRI-PLY-connected surfaces... or even MORE complex surfaces..."
Previous string is different for topic "Idle" info 2638137421067825083-"Growl!"
Following string is different for topic "Idle" info 12024197422094212445-"Wait-wait-wait! I remember now! 'Ecdysiast!' That's it! She used to work as an ecdysiast."
Previous string is different for topic "Idle" info 2839423402756528244-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Flee" info 32137175498021017-"Growl!"
Following string is different for topic "Beds" info 467919273063013822-"Enjoy the room. You'll find it up the stairs and to the left."
Previous string is different for topic "Beds" info 2467420241504626206-"Very well, the bed is yours for the day. You'll find the room on the bottom floor, at the North end of the bar."
Following string is different for topic "Beds" info 1594025613149529658-"Very well. Go down the stairs, and use the first room on your right. It's yours for the next day."
Previous string is different for topic "Beds" info 25962153161759731313-"Very well. Head upstairs, to the last room on the right. It's yours for the next day."
Following string is different for topic "Beds" info 25962153161759731313-"Very well. Head upstairs, to the last room on the right. It's yours for the next day."
Previous string is different for topic "Beds" info 21432111501574114700-"It's all yours for the day. Down the stairs to the right."
Following string is different for topic "Hit" info 22326193421224026360-"(null)"
Previous string is different for topic "Hit" info 1352870573219920531-"(null)"
Following string is different for topic "Hit" info 299702217312473358-"Unngh!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hit" info 1732794482128125050-"Roar!"
Following string is different for topic "Hit" info 2308412121727532-"Grrrr!"
Previous string is different for topic "Hit" info 15912223092960525234-"Raragh!"
Duplicate "teleport_enabler" (3875,3956,13945) in cell Dagoth Ur, Facility Cavern from file Tribunal.esm removed.
Duplicate "Ex_MH_Palacewin_02" (-4885,1084,1058) in cell Mournhold, Great Bazaar from file Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP removed.
Duplicate "in_m_sewer_trapdoor_01" (-1968,-1513,628) in cell Old Mournhold: Palace Sewers from file Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP removed.
3 duplicate references were removed.
Texture "Textures\Tx_sand_02.tga" count 2.
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Caveat: I've never played Suran Underground

 

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Looks like the dialogue topic is "traitor", you could try using the console AddTopic command with an appropriate NPC selected.

 

Perhaps a later loading mod is overwriting the "traitor" topic. Try using Wrye Mash to move Suran Underworld later in your load order.

 

Or use a grep tool (I use TextCrawler) to do a search of your *.es? files in Data Files for those containing the string "traitor". See if it's a dialogue topic and disable (either permanently or temporarily) that mod.

 

If you're using Matthew's original version (2.5) try upgrading to Wollibeebee's 3.0 (on Nexus). Ensure you use Wrye Mash to update your save game.

 

I've no idea what you did to cause all these kind of errors:

Following string is different for topic "someone in particular" info 1827267081687621848-"The merchants of the Suran Merchant's Guild can be found in the lower sewers. If it can be sold, they'll have it. We of the Tong make our home in the upper sewers. There you can find the Overlord, thought he's particular as to who he talks to. Valaya, his right hand, handles most Tong business, including Tong membership."

 

I think they maybe because you've updated a mod without using Wrye Mash?

 

[Edit: And stop spamming FFS, it makes people less likely to answer. This place gets lots of page views and very feew posts. That's the nature of things with Morrowind]

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Hi, thanks, I don't mean to spam! I am using Wollibee's v3 one.

 

I think they maybe because you've updated a mod without using Wrye Mash?

I haven't used wrye mash, but I don't think I updated anything. I will have to check out all of these things. Thanks again.

Edited by freewaydog
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